argentines about máxima

[Cara]

many others do. but they are not going to be a king/queen.

the day WA and max will be kicked out of holland and be ex-CP/king/queen, it'll be perfectly fine to use another country's passport

[Leesa]

Oh Cara, That's not going to happen in a hurry!  And Max knows it, too.

[fairy]

Max might hope that, but the Bee is still going strong and the possibility that after her the monarchy will be abolished is still lurking in some background.....

[mcwi]

I know this thread was started a long time ago, but I joined in order to clarify some things which have been said and are wrong.

1. Maxima will never be able to renounce her Argentine citizenship. It can not be done, even if some anti-immigration politician wants it to happen. She will always be argentinian.

2. Her daughters do not have the argentine citizenship. They can, by birth right, acquire it but to be argentinian you need to have been born in Argentina, regardless if your parents are foreigners (legal or illegal). Therefore, Amalia, Alexia and Ariane are solely Dutch.

3. Reason why Maxima uses her Argentina Passport when visiting Argentina: She can not enter and leave Argentina with the Dutch Passport. I have dual citizenship and can not use my EU Passport when leaving Argentina because I am Argentinian. I enter and leave the country I'm visiting with my EU Passport but when I come back home I need my other passport to enter the country again (the fact I have never lost any of my passports is a miracle!).

In short: she can not renounce her birth citizenship, her daughters, though eligible, do not have the Argentine citizenship, needs arg passport to enter and exit Argentina when visiting her family and friends.


Oh, and even though people in Argentina thinks she is a traitor or whatever for saying she is Dutch and supporting the Dutch football team... they're bonkers. I do not expect anything of her. She is Argentinian, dutch, and future Queen Consort of another country. I'm sure she will always feel love for her country, but she must love The Netherlands the same way.

[PeDe]

I know this thread was started a long time ago, but I joined in order to clarify some things which have been said and are wrong.

1. Maxima will never be able to renounce her Argentine citizenship. It can not be done, even if some anti-immigration politician wants it to happen. She will always be argentinian.

2. Her daughters do not have the argentine citizenship. They can, by birth right, acquire it but to be argentinian you need to have been born in Argentina, regardless if your parents are foreigners (legal or illegal). Therefore, Amalia, Alexia and Ariane are solely Dutch.

3. Reason why Maxima uses her Argentina Passport when visiting Argentina: She can not enter and leave Argentina with the Dutch Passport. I have dual citizenship and can not use my EU Passport when leaving Argentina because I am Argentinian. I enter and leave the country I'm visiting with my EU Passport but when I come back home I need my other passport to enter the country again (the fact I have never lost any of my passports is a miracle!).

In short: she can not renounce her birth citizenship, her daughters, though eligible, do not have the Argentine citizenship, needs arg passport to enter and exit Argentina when visiting her family and friends.


Oh, and even though people in Argentina thinks she is a traitor or whatever for saying she is Dutch and supporting the Dutch football team... they're bonkers. I do not expect anything of her. She is Argentinian, dutch, and future Queen Consort of another country. I'm sure she will always feel love for her country, but she must love The Netherlands the same way.

 ::goodpost 

[mcwi]

Thank you. I just thought it necessary to clear things up, especially if she is being accused of being too grand to use her Dutch Passport. Not every country has the same rules concerning citizenship, and ours is one we can not renounce.

A couple of years ago Maxima, WA and their daughters came to Buenos Aires for a visit and in exchange of being left alone they received the press at the Dutch Embassy. Reporters were surprised at the girls' spanish and Maxima explained that being brought up trilingual was a privilege and an advantage their daughters will have in their future public roles (which is why they have an argentine nanny). Someone asked her if her daughters had any argentine trait and she replied "No, they're Dutch", which indicates she knows that's the only answer she can ever give. Therefore, the girls' allegiance will always be to their country, not Argentina. They will most definitely speak spanish fluently, not for Argentina's sake but because it is an useful language, especially if they want to communicate with their argentine family (not everyone speaks english, let alone dutch). The fact she is not ashamed of where she comes from and embraces her heritage is something good.

[paperbird]

Very interesting information, thank you mcwi & a  for you!

As for the AAA team being raised to speak Dutch AND Spanish, I fail to see the issue because in a world where globalization is seeing us become more and more connected by the day, bilingualism is one of the most useful skills someone can have. I see absolutely no reason Max should not pass the ability to communicate in Spanish to her children.