Diana's 'Mr Wonderful' demands probe after warning phone may have been hacked

[Emma Rose]

I am getting really, really sick of all this banter about Diana, Charles and Camilla. 

Me too. Alas, as long as William and Harry live, the discussion will continue.

But you know what really needs to be discussed?  What book needs to be written?   A comprehensive insightful book about the woman in line to be queen consort, Camilla.   Instead of rehashing a woman who has been dead fifteen years, there is much to be said about the woman who is a senior member of the BRF and has had such an effect on the BRF.   I wonder why?   There should be insight into her childhood, her school years, her first marriage, her relationship with Charles, what she brings to the table as a future queen.   Lots of new uncharted territory there.   

Yes, maybe not much has been written about Camilla because there is something she hides?? 

[Lady Alice]

I am getting really, really sick of all this banter about Diana, Charles and Camilla. 

Me too. Alas, as long as William and Harry live, the discussion will continue.

But you know what really needs to be discussed?  What book needs to be written?   A comprehensive insightful book about the woman in line to be queen consort, Camilla.   Instead of rehashing a woman who has been dead fifteen years, there is much to be said about the woman who is a senior member of the BRF and has had such an effect on the BRF.   I wonder why?   There should be insight into her childhood, her school years, her first marriage, her relationship with Charles, what she brings to the table as a future queen.   Lots of new uncharted territory there.   

Yes, maybe not much has been written about Camilla because there is something she hides?? 

Oh, I think it's likely. Charles would have a snit if anyone sniffed around Cam's past, and he's probably forbidding a project of this kind. I don't think her story is as straightforward as presented. I think some interesting sniffy poop would be discovered.

[Vava]

Well Camilla won't be exempt from the writers, is my guess.  She's probably enjoying the fact that the paps love Waity more than her, at the moment.  But the fact remains, once the Queen passes - Charles will be KING.  And his consort will be a major topic of discussion.  Queen Camilla.  That's what it will be.

I look back on history and really feel as if Wallis got the short end of the stick, along with the Duke of Windsor.  I've read several bios, and autobios, and their story doesn't hold a candle to Charles-Camilla trash even though I know times are different now.

[Leisel]

Oh gee, something to hide...imagine that... how right you are! To me Camilla seems to have a great deal to hide. Somehow I just don't think Camilla would look good if the true facts of her life and relationship with Charles became public knowledge. In my opinion, Camilla is the woman who nearly brought down the monarchy. If she had left Charles alone, rebuffed any advances on his part, he just may have worked on his marriage to Diana. Camilla is the guilty culprit here. Diana reacted to the result of Charles and Camilla's love affair.

I am getting really, really sick of all this banter about Diana, Charles and Camilla. 

Me too. Alas, as long as William and Harry live, the discussion will continue.

But you know what really needs to be discussed?  What book needs to be written?   A comprehensive insightful book about the woman in line to be queen consort, Camilla.   Instead of rehashing a woman who has been dead fifteen years, there is much to be said about the woman who is a senior member of the BRF and has had such an effect on the BRF.   I wonder why?   There should be insight into her childhood, her school years, her first marriage, her relationship with Charles, what she brings to the table as a future queen.   Lots of new uncharted territory there.   

Yes, maybe not much has been written about Camilla because there is something she hides?? 

[freethespoon]

We know Willy has a goon squad that has quiet little chats with the press about their coverage.

He might have learned this on his own, but I would bet dollars for donuts that he learned it from Papa.

[Cara]

This is probably a well-known fact, but I'll stick it in here anyway.  Dodi did win an academy award (at least the team he was on won it) for being one of the producers of a movie I loved.  It was a dark horse so a surprise but well deserved (IMHO) win--CHARIOTS OF FIRE.

thanks for the reminder! 

[Maria]

I look back on history and really feel as if Wallis got the short end of the stick, along with the Duke of Windsor.  I've read several bios, and autobios, and their story doesn't hold a candle to Charles-Camilla trash even though I know times are different now.

Yeah sure, let's us just forget that she (they) met up with Hitler and sympathies with the Nazi regime. Of course Camillia and Charles are a lot worse!

 

[BessieWallis Warfield]

I look back on history and really feel as if Wallis got the short end of the stick, along with the Duke of Windsor.  I've read several bios, and autobios, and their story doesn't hold a candle to Charles-Camilla trash even though I know times are different now.

Yeah sure, let's us just forget that she (they) met up with Hitler and sympathies with the Nazi regime. Of course Camillia and Charles are a lot worse!

 

LOL!  Good point, Maria!  I forgot about Wallis' Nazi sympathies when I chose this screen name (Wallis' birthname).   

There is some indication that more royalty were Nazi sympathizers than we think.  Prince Phillip's four sisters had to be swept under the rug when he married Elizabeth.  I don't think Elizabeth's parents were too unsympathetic towards Hitler UNTIL he started the war and tried to invade England. 

[Maria]

I look back on history and really feel as if Wallis got the short end of the stick, along with the Duke of Windsor.  I've read several bios, and autobios, and their story doesn't hold a candle to Charles-Camilla trash even though I know times are different now.

Yeah sure, let's us just forget that she (they) met up with Hitler and sympathies with the Nazi regime. Of course Camillia and Charles are a lot worse!

 

LOL!  Good point, Maria!  I forgot about Wallis' Nazi sympathies when I chose this screen name (Wallis' birthname).   

There is some indication that more royalty were Nazi sympathizers than we think.  Prince Phillip's four sisters had to be swept under the rug when he married Elizabeth.  I don't think Elizabeth's parents were too unsympathetic towards Hitler UNTIL he started the war and tried to invade England. 

I think many people around in Europe probably felt sympathy towards Hitler for a while - if only because of his stance against communism and the Soviet Union. That should of course not be forgotten. But Wallis and Edward's sympathy reeks of personal sympathy IMO and that's just despicable And again - far, far worse than anything Camilla and Charles has ever done IMO.

[willywonka85]

I could not agree more, Maria.  We really dodged a bullet when Edward VIII abdicated.  It's so telling that George V, just before his death, predicted that Edward VIII would wreck all his efforts to protect the monarchy, and it would be so much better for everyone if Bertie, and eventually Lilibet, were next in line. 

Plus, Edward VIII's womanising and cavorting was on a scale that Prince Charles never even got close to.

I am getting really, really sick of all this banter about Diana, Charles and Camilla. 

Me too. Alas, as long as William and Harry live, the discussion will continue.

But you know what really needs to be discussed?  What book needs to be written?   A comprehensive insightful book about the woman in line to be queen consort, Camilla.   Instead of rehashing a woman who has been dead fifteen years, there is much to be said about the woman who is a senior member of the BRF and has had such an effect on the BRF.   I wonder why?   There should be insight into her childhood, her school years, her first marriage, her relationship with Charles, what she brings to the table as a future queen.   Lots of new uncharted territory there.   

We've seen any number of books which go into Camilla's story.  Diana ensured, via the book she helped Andrew Morton write, that Camilla's reputation was ruined to such an extent that it still has not recovered, although most people are comfortable with her position in the BRF.  I think also that Camilla's close family and friends are very loyal to her, and so are not minded to run to journalists with stories in the way that some of Charles and Diana's did.

[just me]

I look back on history and really feel as if Wallis got the short end of the stick, along with the Duke of Windsor.  I've read several bios, and autobios, and their story doesn't hold a candle to Charles-Camilla trash even though I know times are different now.

Yeah sure, let's us just forget that she (they) met up with Hitler and sympathies with the Nazi regime. Of course Camillia and Charles are a lot worse!

 

LOL!  Good point, Maria!  I forgot about Wallis' Nazi sympathies when I chose this screen name (Wallis' birthname).   

There is some indication that more royalty were Nazi sympathizers than we think.  Prince Phillip's four sisters had to be swept under the rug when he married Elizabeth.  I don't think Elizabeth's parents were too unsympathetic towards Hitler UNTIL he started the war and tried to invade England. 

I think many people around in Europe probably felt sympathy towards Hitler for a while - if only because of his stance against communism and the Soviet Union. That should of course not be forgotten. But Wallis and Edward's sympathy reeks of personal sympathy IMO and that's just despicable And again - far, far worse than anything Camilla and Charles has ever done IMO.

i am sorry i just got a shock after reading this comment . i never knew that people in europe were sympathetic towards hitler , his rule is still the most disgusting hateful bloody dreadful  inhuman that i have ever read  about .i used to hate british royals after reading about our independence but boy i was shaken when i was shaken when i read about hitler , i still get scared and disgusted whenever i see something about him on history channel , i can't imagine how people used to feel when he was alive.when i think of him i feel there are some people who deserve to die and his suicide was a god blessing although it was his decision .for me he was the most cruel man that mankind ever witnessed .

[willywonka85]

Hitler was democratically elected by the people of Germany, plenty of people had sympathy for his philosophy of varying degrees, at least until the horrors of the Holocaust came to light.  In terms of being the most evil person ever, Stalin gives him a run for his money.  Estimates suggest he ordered and facilitated the murder of as many as 60 million people.  At the time plenty of people on the political left in the UK and elsewhere were accepting if not outright supportive of Stalin, often referring to him as 'Uncle Joe'. 

[BessieWallis Warfield]

I look back on history and really feel as if Wallis got the short end of the stick, along with the Duke of Windsor.  I've read several bios, and autobios, and their story doesn't hold a candle to Charles-Camilla trash even though I know times are different now.

Yeah sure, let's us just forget that she (they) met up with Hitler and sympathies with the Nazi regime. Of course Camillia and Charles are a lot worse!

 

LOL!  Good point, Maria!  I forgot about Wallis' Nazi sympathies when I chose this screen name (Wallis' birthname).   

There is some indication that more royalty were Nazi sympathizers than we think.  Prince Phillip's four sisters had to be swept under the rug when he married Elizabeth.  I don't think Elizabeth's parents were too unsympathetic towards Hitler UNTIL he started the war and tried to invade England. 

I think many people around in Europe probably felt sympathy towards Hitler for a while - if only because of his stance against communism and the Soviet Union. That should of course not be forgotten. But Wallis and Edward's sympathy reeks of personal sympathy IMO and that's just despicable And again - far, far worse than anything Camilla and Charles has ever done IMO.

i am sorry i just got a shock after reading this comment . i never knew that people in europe were sympathetic towards hitler , his rule is still the most disgusting hateful bloody dreadful  inhuman that i have ever read  about .i used to hate british royals after reading about our independence but boy i was shaken when i was shaken when i read about hitler , i still get scared and disgusted whenever i see something about him on history channel , i can't imagine how people used to feel when he was alive.when i think of him i feel there are some people who deserve to die and his suicide was a god blessing although it was his decision .for me he was the most cruel man that mankind ever witnessed .

Just me, Hitler's reputation evolved over time.  In the 1930's fascism was an viable alternative to communism.  Royals in particular fully supported fascist regimes because communists were all about wiping them out.  At the time he was not rounding up Jews (just placing restrictions on them) and just making noise about a great Aryan state. None of these things are tolerable, but most of Europe was in denial over the more ominous signals this was sending.  They simply did not want to believe there would be another war, having lived through the Great War.  By the time they really woke up and realized what Hitler was all about it was too late.   I think Maria is right that people were deathly afraid of communism, and therefore were more apt to support fascism.  That is not to equate it with support of the ensuing Holocaust.

[just me]

Hitler was democratically elected by the people of Germany, plenty of people had sympathy for his philosophy of varying degrees, at least until the horrors of the Holocaust came to light.  In terms of being the most evil person ever, Stalin gives him a run for his money.  Estimates suggest he ordered and facilitated the murder of as many as 60 million people.  At the time plenty of people on the political left in the UK and elsewhere were accepting if not outright supportive of Stalin, often referring to him as 'Uncle Joe'. 

actually i have read more about hitler then stalin and also the way he treated jews  i can relate that to the indian independence  and feel this way about hitler irrespective of numbers.

[Vava]

I look back on history and really feel as if Wallis got the short end of the stick, along with the Duke of Windsor.  I've read several bios, and autobios, and their story doesn't hold a candle to Charles-Camilla trash even though I know times are different now.

Yeah sure, let's us just forget that she (they) met up with Hitler and sympathies with the Nazi regime. Of course Camillia and Charles are a lot worse!

 

Good point.  Wallis and David both glossed over that in their autobiographies.  There were other prominent people who were tolerant of Hitler before the real story came out regarding the atrocicities.... (Joe Kennedy for example).
I still think they had a very interesting story.  Initially I thought it was sad at how the family disowned David, but now I guess I can understand why they did.