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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2012, 02:56:28 AM »

I'm not surprised the men are whiners.  Like the saying goes, if it were up to men to get pregnant and bear children, the species would have ended long ago.

Nice job on the post, Kitty Heaven.   Jumping  I totally agree with you.  I also think Diana would be dismayed to read Willy's quotes in the media.  That was not the way she trained this guy - AT ALL.  Ugh....he revolts me.  It's probably his controlling ways that make Waity all the more nauseating, too.
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2012, 03:40:11 AM »

I try to have sympathy for Royals and other privileged people whining about their lot in life but I just can't. I'm sorry.  No

Their future and the future of their children is assured for the most part. They can meet whomever they want, vacation wherever they want, and live in sumptuous historic homes that the rest of us can read about in history books or on TV.

They will never be evicted(unless the peasants revolt! ) They will never try to make the spaghetti that was Monday's dinner stretch all the way to Wednesday because $$ is tight. They will never worry about school tuition or if they can afford a vacation this year.

What I am trying to say is that their lot in life that leaves them so little "wriggle room to seek my own path" is TOUGH
S--T. Being born is a lottery, sometimes you pull the straw that says you are born in some war torn impoverished hell hole and will struggle every day of your life to eke out a living. You might be raped or sold into some army. Or you could be born deaf and blind and have that cross to bear.

OR...you could be like little Estelle of Sweden...born healthy into a Royal family to parents who are besotted with one another and with you. You will be surrounded by love and privilege for your entire childhood BUT...your " lot in life" is to be a constitutional monarch, with certain expectations you must meet regarding your behavior. And your career path in life has been chosen for you.

It sounds unfair on some level, but it's a trade off and it's simply the way it is.

William needs to stop bitching and grow up. I agree with the person who said that if he finds it so unbearable he should renounce it all and move to his little "cottage" in Wales with his wife.



 Star  a million times for this.    Supercontent   Do you mind if I print this out and send it to Willy with a big red 'SUCK IT UP' written along the top? 

PLEASE SEND IT TO WILLY, and put all of our names on it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2012, 03:44:14 AM »


Knowing he’s destined to become the King of England one day, William admits: “There’s not much wriggle room left for me to try and find my own path, but I will do. It’s just“Everyone’s fascinated by the Queen’s life and how she’s done it. And I would just hope that a bit of what she’s done and a bit of what she’s achieved, and a bit of how she’s conducted herself, we all take away in our own lives and try and do it ourselves,” William says. “I would like to take all of her experiences, all of her knowledge and put it in a small box and to be able to constantly refer to it.”

here is the link to the website , read the comments they are priceless and makes a lot of sense to me :


http://www.celebitchy.com...r_me_to_find_my_own_path/



Not much wriggle room? Really? I beg to differ.

I think of the other 'top' royals who've gone before William, and I see William as someone who's been able to actually have a private life, which indicates some control, I think. He's not doing a packed schedule of engagements, due to his job as a pilot - which, again, is something he has chosen to do. And he's not due to be King for a long time yet, so I think the evolution of the monarchy will continue with him. At this point, he has time, which can only help him. (I'm not so sure about where Charles will go. I think he sees himself as terribly progressive, but I wonder about that.) Thanks to previous royal disasters, I think he'll be able to adapt elements in the monarchy, because they've finally woken up to the fact that they must. Esp. if Charles makes the monarchy's popularity plummet.

Of course, to be fair, I think William sees himself as being caged. So I suppose the fact that he's less caged, relatively speaking, doesn't help...... Sad  But I think does have more control than his father or grandmother, which is something.
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2012, 03:45:41 AM »


Knowing he’s destined to become the King of England one day, William admits: “There’s not much wriggle room left for me to try and find my own path, but I will do. It’s just“Everyone’s fascinated by the Queen’s life and how she’s done it. And I would just hope that a bit of what she’s done and a bit of what she’s achieved, and a bit of how she’s conducted herself, we all take away in our own lives and try and do it ourselves,” William says. “I would like to take all of her experiences, all of her knowledge and put it in a small box and to be able to constantly refer to it.”

here is the link to the website , read the comments they are priceless and makes a lot of sense to me :


http://www.celebitchy.com...r_me_to_find_my_own_path/



Not much wriggle room? Really? I beg to differ.

I think of the other 'top' royals who've gone before William, and I see William as someone who's been able to actually have a private life, which indicates some control, I think. He's not doing a packed schedule of engagements, due to his job as a pilot - which, again, is something he has chosen to do. And he's not due to be King for a long time yet, so I think the evolution of the monarchy will continue with him. At this point, he has time, which can only help him. (I'm not so sure about where Charles will go. I think he sees himself as terribly progressive, but I wonder about that.) Thanks to previous royal disasters, I think he'll be able to adapt elements in the monarchy, because they've finally woken up to the fact that they must. Esp. if Charles makes the monarchy's popularity plummet.

Of course, to be fair, I think William sees himself as being caged. So I suppose the fact that he's less caged, relatively speaking, doesn't help...... Sad  But I think does have more control than his father or grandmother, which is something.

I'm beginning to think Will is a lot like Fred of Denmark, the self-pity party allows them to get away with a lot. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2012, 03:53:44 AM »


Knowing he’s destined to become the King of England one day, William admits: “There’s not much wriggle room left for me to try and find my own path, but I will do. It’s just“Everyone’s fascinated by the Queen’s life and how she’s done it. And I would just hope that a bit of what she’s done and a bit of what she’s achieved, and a bit of how she’s conducted herself, we all take away in our own lives and try and do it ourselves,” William says. “I would like to take all of her experiences, all of her knowledge and put it in a small box and to be able to constantly refer to it.”

here is the link to the website , read the comments they are priceless and makes a lot of sense to me :


http://www.celebitchy.com...r_me_to_find_my_own_path/



Not much wriggle room? Really? I beg to differ.

I think of the other 'top' royals who've gone before William, and I see William as someone who's been able to actually have a private life, which indicates some control, I think. He's not doing a packed schedule of engagements, due to his job as a pilot - which, again, is something he has chosen to do. And he's not due to be King for a long time yet, so I think the evolution of the monarchy will continue with him. At this point, he has time, which can only help him. (I'm not so sure about where Charles will go. I think he sees himself as terribly progressive, but I wonder about that.) Thanks to previous royal disasters, I think he'll be able to adapt elements in the monarchy, because they've finally woken up to the fact that they must. Esp. if Charles makes the monarchy's popularity plummet.

Of course, to be fair, I think William sees himself as being caged. So I suppose the fact that he's less caged, relatively speaking, doesn't help...... Sad  But I think does have more control than his father or grandmother, which is something.

I'm beginning to think Will is a lot like Fred of Denmark, the self-pity party allows them to get away with a lot. 

Yes....I was hoping William wouldn't fall into the same trap his father has - Charles seems to be King (at last!!!  Wink ) of the self pityers. Yeesh.
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 06:17:17 AM »

I got my new issue of Vogue a few days ago, and when I sat down to read it (cover-to-cover, because that’s how I roll), I was surprised by several articles about Queen Elizabeth’s Diamond Jubilee and the 2012 Olympics. This was American Vogue, not Vogue UK – I didn’t really understand why Anna Wintour is suddenly such an Anglophile. But I guess this year (or more specifically, this summer) is all about the UK since they’ll be hosting the two biggest media events of the year.

Anna Wintour is British. She moved to the United States when she was hired by Vogue in the 1980's.

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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 10:44:49 AM »

I don't get the sense that he's whining at all. The 'wriggle room' comment seems as though it was meant as a compliment to HM. That she's done all of these wonderful things for 60 years and presumably will continue to do them for years to come, she's set the bar high with her tremendous dedication to duty, country etc, that the 'wriggle room' means she's a tough act to follow and expectations are high. Because of what his grandmother has achieved there is no room for error. I think he's quite thoughtful and reflective in this interview from bits I've seen and the one with Katie Couric.
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2012, 01:14:12 PM »

I don't get the sense that he's whining at all. The 'wriggle room' comment seems as though it was meant as a compliment to HM. That she's done all of these wonderful things for 60 years and presumably will continue to do them for years to come, she's set the bar high with her tremendous dedication to duty, country etc, that the 'wriggle room' means she's a tough act to follow and expectations are high. Because of what his grandmother has achieved there is no room for error. I think he's quite thoughtful and reflective in this interview from bits I've seen and the one with Katie Couric.

Maybe  Smiley

I haven't watched it. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2012, 01:36:21 PM »

I will be quite honest and confess that I can see why it must at times be hard to be the future regent so in some ways I understand why they whine (and also: come on! Charles and William barrly squeaks next to Fred - you've got to give them that ). Yes, they live an enormously privileged life and yes, people dote on them and serve on them their entire life - but there's also a lot of pressure on them, CONSTANT attention and also very little room to freely choose over what they want to do with their life. In a certain way they're slaves of the cercumstances they're born into. And yes, that might be a bit .. sugery to look at things that way. I can't help thinking though that I wouldn't want to give birth to a child who had to be in that position. I'd much rather be a minor royal at least.
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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2012, 04:09:47 PM »

I'm not surprised the men are whiners.  Like the saying goes, if it were up to men to get pregnant and bear children, the species would have ended long ago.

Nice job on the post, Kitty Heaven.   Jumping  I totally agree with you.  I also think Diana would be dismayed to read Willy's quotes in the media.  That was not the way she trained this guy - AT ALL.  Ugh....he revolts me.  It's probably his controlling ways that make Waity all the more nauseating, too.

Thank you Vava...speaking of Diana, next month on his 30th birthday William will receive full control of the inheritance that she left for him. It's been well invested and conservative estimates are that it is in the neighborhood of about $20 million dollars.  Shocked

If he really seriously feels constrained by his position as heir to the throne that would be more than enough money to finance a comfortable private life for himself, his wife and their future children. He could renounce his claims in favor of his younger brother and be in the enviable position of being young and independently wealthy and free of responsibilty.

But he will never, ever do that of course. He would never dare disappoint his father or especially his grandparents who he seems to revere.

I think what we will see for the foreseeable future is William continuing to put off for as long as possible being a full time working Royal. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he delays it until he himself becomes Prince of Wales when Charles assumes the throne.
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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2012, 04:12:25 PM »

He will never step back because he hates to be overshadowed by his brother  Cute
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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2012, 04:41:52 PM »

Miss Waynfleet I have never gotten the idea that William is jealous of his younger brother's popularity. They seem very close, very complicit. Even when Harry has committed huge gaffes William seems to always have his back.

He has never criticized him publically, and probably doesn't do it privately either. I have always found their relationship touching and admirable.
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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2012, 04:58:10 PM »

Miss Waynfleet I have never gotten the idea that William is jealous of his younger brother's popularity. They seem very close, very complicit. Even when Harry has committed huge gaffes William seems to always have his back.

He has never criticized him publically, and probably doesn't do it privately either. I have always found their relationship touching and admirable.

William always felt superior to Harry. Royal Reporters wrote how people should expect that when Harry has a good and large press attention, William will do something right after that. And that after weeks of doing nothing? Why not before Harry? Or does he expect his brother will humiliate himself?  Halo
I don´t doubt they are close, but not that anymore, he has now his wife and her family.
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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2012, 11:47:26 PM »

William will never give up his place.  He is Chucky Jnr.  Entitled. Spoiled.  Determined to get what he wants, in the manner in which he wants it, and sucks to be anyone who criticises him because he doesn't care.

He will take his role, treat the populace like idiots, and do what he likes.

Personally, I can't wait.  Australia needs to become a republic.  Chucky and Willy will make sure it happens.
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2012, 04:17:47 PM »

I've always thought the minor royals were the lucky ones. They benefit from the wealth and privilege that comes with being a royal but with far less of the expectations and with much more freedom to choose their own life path. I'd much rather be Madde than Victoria or be Athena instead of Christian.
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