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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2012, 11:14:05 PM » |
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The mystique and resultant attraction of royalty wanes when they marry commoners. The Brits have not had that situation until last year with the Middletons marrying in, and that has certainly taken its toll already. The Queen, Charles and William are seriously aristocratic and some appeal extends from that. Also their interests are very 'British' and focussed on the outdoors, which binds them to the country they rule. The DRF just isn't in the same league. There is nothing appealing to foreign tourists about a Tasmanian with a poor personal history parading around in expensive clothes. Jokke's interest in sustainable farming is of interest but no-one else seems to have any passions or specialised knowledge at all. They turn up at events and look vacuous, and the Tasmanian one spins around and fidgets on her high heels doing camera poses. 
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« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2012, 11:27:29 PM » |
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The mystique and resultant attraction of royalty wanes when they marry commoners. The Brits have not had that situation until last year with the Middletons marrying in, and that has certainly taken its toll already. The Queen, Charles and William are seriously aristocratic and some appeal extends from that. Also their interests are very 'British' and focussed on the outdoors, which binds them to the country they rule. The DRF just isn't in the same league. There is nothing appealing to foreign tourists about a Tasmanian with a poor personal history parading around in expensive clothes. Jokke's interest in sustainable farming is of interest but no-one else seems to have any passions or specialised knowledge at all. They turn up at events and look vacuous, and the Tasmanian one spins around and fidgets on her high heels doing camera poses.  Jusaca, Jokke is under suspicion of using (at least BUYING) illegal fertilizers from smugglers. I think it is a good idea for him to keep a very low profile about "sustainable farming"!
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« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2012, 11:27:29 PM » |
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« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2012, 11:33:48 PM » |
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Interesting. Did he buy the allegedly illegal fertilizer knowing that it was illegal? Surely he has a farm foreman who actually makes those purchasing decisions.
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« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2012, 09:59:19 PM » |
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The mystique and resultant attraction of royalty wanes when they marry commoners. The Brits have not had that situation until last year with the Middletons marrying in, and that has certainly taken its toll already. The Queen, Charles and William are seriously aristocratic and some appeal extends from that. Also their interests are very 'British' and focussed on the outdoors, which binds them to the country they rule. The DRF just isn't in the same league. There is nothing appealing to foreign tourists about a Tasmanian with a poor personal history parading around in expensive clothes. Jokke's interest in sustainable farming is of interest but no-one else seems to have any passions or specialised knowledge at all. They turn up at events and look vacuous, and the Tasmanian one spins around and fidgets on her high heels doing camera poses.  Jusaca, Jokke is under suspicion of using (at least BUYING) illegal fertilizers from smugglers. I think it is a good idea for him to keep a very low profile about "sustainable farming"! That's really interesting ... I'm not sure what makes a fertiliser illegal. I'll have to read up on that.
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« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2012, 10:24:49 PM » |
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I think the monarchy is declining everywhere just in Britain it is still an institution. First of all the society is not so hierarchic anymore. People are not looking up to the Queen or King that much anymore as they used to (my granny was one of the biggest fans of QEII ever, I think).
People are more aware of the costs of them and lately there have been some strange additions to the various families and there some not charismatic princes in Europe now (Wills, Albert, Alexander, Fredo, ....). Some of them even have strange wives (MM, Mary, Waity, Charlene (even though there is improvement now)) ... we will see where this goes. If one Scandinavian country becomes a republic, the other are in mortal danger.
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« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2012, 04:59:34 AM » |
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When the Queen of England and Phillip die there will be tremendous, tremendous grief, and perhaps even some psychological trauma along with it, if the reaction to Diana's death is any indication. I think popularity of the monarchy will actually go up immediately afterwards. As time goes one, however, I wonder how long it will remain an institution. I thought for a long time it would remain an institution because people wanted to see Diana's son on the throne (and would just put up with the Charles years). Now I'm not so sure. 15 years since Diana died, and memories fade fast, apart from a few fans and royal watchers. Besides, Will is really no longer "Diana's son," he's his own person. If Will and Kate produce a few kids and undertake royal duties in the same way the grandparents did, there is a bit of hope. Time will tell. As someone pointed out to me several years ago, from about 1960 onward (give or take) those born into royalty have assumed all of the privileges often with very little of the responsibility. There was a time when they could not be seen at clubs until all hours of the morning, did not jet set around the globe, certainly did not marry who they wanted, etc, etc. That's just not the case. Now they're just celebrities, some of them little less trashy than Kardashians.
As for the other monarchies, who can say. I personally think they will be their own undoing by showing the world, one chip at a time that they are just ordinary people. The veil of mystery must never be lifted and all that. Well, it's been lifted.
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« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2012, 08:32:42 AM » |
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 BWW. That is so true. With EII you actually have the feeling that she does her job because she loves it and she wants to serve England. Also the DoE. They have so much class, they are friendly, but as you said "mysterious" at the same time. They don't need a holiday every two minutes. If she dies, it will be the end of an era. It was like when pope John Paul died. He was there so long and it felt strange that he wasn't anymore.
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« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2012, 03:38:55 PM » |
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Thank you, guys!! I think you can say the same of Marge, who has been on the throne over 40 years. Not only will she be a tough act to follow, there's no one really to follow her. I think that the only current monarch where people will breathe a sigh of relief at the transition is JC of Spain, but only due to recent antics.
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« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2012, 04:26:33 PM » |
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The mystique and resultant attraction of royalty wanes when they marry commoners. The Brits have not had that situation until last year with the Middletons marrying in, and that has certainly taken its toll already. The Queen, Charles and William are seriously aristocratic and some appeal extends from that. Also their interests are very 'British' and focussed on the outdoors, which binds them to the country they rule. The DRF just isn't in the same league. There is nothing appealing to foreign tourists about a Tasmanian with a poor personal history parading around in expensive clothes. Jokke's interest in sustainable farming is of interest but no-one else seems to have any passions or specialised knowledge at all. They turn up at events and look vacuous, and the Tasmanian one spins around and fidgets on her high heels doing camera poses.  Jusaca, Jokke is under suspicion of using (at least BUYING) illegal fertilizers from smugglers. I think it is a good idea for him to keep a very low profile about "sustainable farming"! That's really interesting ... I'm not sure what makes a fertiliser illegal. I'll have to read up on that. Here is a short article about what thosee fertilizers do. They are forbidden for a reason! http://nyhederne-dyn.tv2....3%A6lges-i-stor-stil.htmlA number of criminal masterminds supplies Danish farmers with illegal fertilizers and pesticides that destroy the environment and at worst can cause cancer. In collaboration with DR program "Behind the facade", Politiken has used undercover methods to expose the hidden agribusiness industry, which makes it possible for Danish farmers to break the law and use the banned and in some cases dangerous goods. Under the cover to be interested buyers Politiken and DR contacted a number of intermediaries and asked if it is possible to buy illegal pesticides and fertilizers. Several backers sell fertilizer without the authorities' control in the field, showing the calls. One of the ringleaders is Bent Hjort Knudsen, a farmer from Ulladulla in Kolding, writes Politiken. Despite previous convictions for trafficking in pesticides and fertilizers, he not only prepared to sell black manure, but also illegal and carcinogenic pesticide IPU, which has been banned in Denmark since 1999. Authorities will now investigate the matter and notify the farmer to the police if there are grounds for it, she says.
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« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2012, 05:48:09 PM » |
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Jokke is immune from prosecution, I understand (those kind of immunities make me hopping mad). But it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Even if he is immune, he is not immune from public opinion and outcry, nor is the DRF's popularity immune. In some ways, it is WORSE for the public's support of the monarchy if they are immune.
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« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2012, 06:17:05 PM » |
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Jokke is immune from prosecution, I understand (those kind of immunities make me hopping mad). But it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Even if he is immune, he is not immune from public opinion and outcry, nor is the DRF's popularity immune. In some ways, it is WORSE for the public's support of the monarchy if they are immune.
This happened a while ago. I think the court cases are starting in the autumn. Not 100% sure, it has not been covered too much in the press, but it has been hinted that Jokke was involved, "among them a Danish prince". You donīt have to be Einstein to figure that one out, but there has been no outcry. Mostly from me, LOL Jokke will not be prosecuted of course, but all the others will - how about that! I think he has every obligation to follow the laws, BECAUSE he has immunity. They all have this obligation IMO. They have very often broken speed limits for instance. A big NO NO too.
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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2012, 09:20:30 PM » |
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He should be stripped of his title and appanage! If they cannot act as role models and good representatives of the nation then there's absolutely no point continuing the job. 
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« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2012, 11:00:08 PM » |
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Denmark was originally on the agenda for vacation this year, but when we took a closer look at costs we decided we'd get more bang for our buck by extending our stay in Norway and Sweden - though not vastly cheaper, both offer a greater diversity of things to do and see. The Danish tourism board does and excellent job of promoting the country, and there was one broucher that highlighted the history of the DRF and their residences. Interesting, but not something I'd pack my bags specifically to see... 'cuz why spend the money when I get it for free on RD  I think with global economies still recovering and with competition for tourism dollars, trying to entice someone with royalty is a stretch, more so given the dominance of the BRF for close to 2 years now, from the engagement and wedding through to jubilee celebrations and then the family making appearances at the London Olympics.
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« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2012, 03:20:20 AM » |
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Jokke will not be prosecuted of course, but all the others will - how about that! I think he has every obligation to follow the laws, BECAUSE he has immunity. [/quote] Can someone pls tell me why Jokke et al are all have immunity from the law?  Why can they pick n chose which law appeals to them, and which it doesn't...  hint: they're royal, isn't the right answer  Abs and BWW  G 
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