Royal Last Names

[PeDe]

Since the subject came up in the "Re: Royal Families at London Olympics 2012 " (http://royaldish.com/inde...11271.msg507457#msg507457)

I checked out other families and the last names they use if you are interested. These are "family names" they often times use, opposite to "house names".

examples
Denmark - family name: Oldenburg > house name: Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg
Belgium -  family name: Wettin  >  house name: Saxe-Coburg-Gotha

exeption
England -  family name: Mountbatten-Windsor > house name: Mountbatten-Windsor (well, after WWWII, before that it was Saxe-Coburg-Gotha as well)

Skandinavian RF - reigning
Denmark: Oldenburg
Norway:  Oldenburg (prince Carl of Danmark - known as King Haakon VII - became king. He was a brother of king Christian X of Danmark)
Sweden: Bernadotte


European RF - reigning
Belgium: Wettin
Liechtenstein: von und zu Liechtenstein
Luxembourg: Nassau-Weilburg
Monaco: Grimaldi
Netherlands: Oranje-Nassau
Spain: Borbon y Grecia

British RF - reigning
Great Britain: (Mountbatten-)Windsor

Deposed RF - non-reigning
Albania: Zogu
Austria: Habsburg-Lorraine
Bulgaria:Wettin
France: Bourbon or Bonaparte
Prussia: Hohenzollern
Thurn und Taxis: Thurn und Taxis
Bavaria: Wittlesbach
Hanover: Gülf
Saxony: Wettin
Württemberg: Württemberg
Greece: Oldenburg
Italy: Savoy
Montenegro: Petrovic-Njegos
Portugal: Braganza
Romania:Hohenzollern
Russia: Romanov
The Two Sicilies: Bourbon
Serbia: Karadjordjevic

Source of information- Europe's Royal Families (Compiled and edited by Burke's Peerage Copyright, 1979)
 

[scworldtraveler]

I thought with the UK (England? those scots, etc need to really decide on the whole independece thing once and for all), that it was the House of Windsor, and that the non-direct (andy, annie, and ed) would take m-windsor? In other words, wasn't the m-windsor thing just a formality to make philly happy?

[PeDe]

Mountbatten-Windsor is the personal surname of some of the descendants of Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh under an ambiguously-worded Order in Council issued in 1960, and as such a cadet branch of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg (known as the House of Glücksburg for short), which in turn is a branch of the House of Oldenburg.
 
It differs from the official name of the British Royal House, which remains Windsor. The adoption of the Mountbatten-Windsor surname does not apply to members of the Royal Family who are not descended from The Queen (her cousins, for example, and the descendants of Princess Margaret).

The Order specifically applies the surname to those descendants of the Queen not holding Royal styles and titles but it has been applied to or informally used by members of the Royal Family descended from Queen Elizabeth II as their surname, as shown at the marriages of the Duke of York and the Princess Royal, both having been registered with Mountbatten-Windsor in their entries in the marriage registers.

The Mountbatten surname derives from the German town of Battenberg, in Hesse. Prince Louis of Battenberg changed his surname to Mountbatten (its literal English translation) during the First World War at the request of King George V. When then-Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark, a member of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg (the royal house of Denmark and Norway and the deposed royal house of Greece) took British citizenship, he used this surname since he descends from the Battenberg family through his mother, Princess Alice of Battenberg.
 
The name Windsor was adopted by the British branch of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in 1917.

The following people make use of, in current practice, or have made use of, the surname Mountbatten-Windsor. They are listed in the order of succession to the Crown:

> Prince Charles, Prince of Wales
> Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall
> Prince William, Duke of Cambridge
> Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
> Prince Harry of Wales

> Prince Andrew, Duke of York
> Princess Beatrice of York
> Princess Eugenie of York
> Sarah, Duchess of York the
 
> Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex
> Sophie, Countess of Wessex
> James, Viscount Severn (styled Viscount Severn)
> Lady Louise Windsor (simply styled with the name Windsor)
 
> Princess Anne, Princess Royal


~ Diana, Princess of Wales used the surname until her death.

[Fragrance78]

Another factoid about Diana I never knew....her using the Mountbatten-Windsor as her surname even after the divorce. Thanks Encyclo-Pede-a! 

[PeDe]

Another factoid about Diana I never knew....her using the Mountbatten-Windsor as her surname even after the divorce. Thanks Encyclo-Pede-a! 

 

oh, too much honour Fragrance, I don't know all these things, I just pull the info from wherever I can get it 

[editorathome]

Thanks for all the interesting info, PeDe!

[Molly2101]

The Royal house is the House of Windsor, but the family's personal surname is Mountbatten-Windsor.  That's how it works isn't it?  
Louise and James are the only two current members who will actually use the name, and James will be the only one who passes the surname to the next generation as William and Harry's children will be HRH so will not use a surname, like the current HRH members, and Peter's surname is Phillips.  Harry's children may be Mountbatten-Windsor if he has children before his father becomes King, but they will be HRH longer than they will ever be Mountbatten-Windsor.  His grandchildren, perhaps, will use Mountbatten-Windsor, but I am not sure.

Louise is sytled Lady Louise Windsor, but in private (and on the Court Circuar) she is actually Mountbatten-Windsor as there were images from her at school wearing a name badge that had L.M.W on it, hence showing Louise Mountbatten-Windsor.  James, although styled Viscount Severn, will use the surname at school like his sister, and although he will eventually become the Earl of Wessex (and His Grace, The Duke of Edinburgh if everything goes to plan) and his wife the Countess, their daughters will be Lady "Insert Name" Mountbatten-Windsor, like Louise.

[Clara]

The Royal house is the House of Windsor, but the family's personal surname is Mountbatten-Windsor.  That's how it works isn't it?  
Louise and James are the only two current members who will actually use the name, and James will be the only one who passes the surname to the next generation as William and Harry's children will be HRH so will not use a surname, like the current HRH members, and Peter's surname is Phillips.  Harry's children may be Mountbatten-Windsor if he has children before his father becomes King, but they will be HRH longer than they will ever be Mountbatten-Windsor.  His grandchildren, perhaps, will use Mountbatten-Windsor, but I am not sure.

Louise is sytled Lady Louise Windsor, but in private (and on the Court Circuar) she is actually Mountbatten-Windsor as there were images from her at school wearing a name badge that had L.M.W on it, hence showing Louise Mountbatten-Windsor.  James, although styled Viscount Severn, will use the surname at school like his sister, and although he will eventually become the Earl of Wessex (and His Grace, The Duke of Edinburgh if everything goes to plan) and his wife the Countess, their daughters will be Lady "Insert Name" Mountbatten-Windsor, like Louise.

The Windsor (sorry, Mountbatten-Windsor) surname issue is such a mess, what's more formal than the Court Circular, they always address everyone by their proper titles there 

Since the subject came up in the "Re: Royal Families at London Olympics 2012 " (http://royaldish.com/inde...11271.msg507457#msg507457)




European RF - reigning

Spain: Borbon y Grecia


Source of information- Europe's Royal Families (Compiled and edited by Burke's Peerage Copyright, 1979)
 

What a huge mistake, don't trust that source! 
Borbón y Grecia are Felipe, Elena and Cristina's two surnames, one from their father (Borbón) and one from their mother (Grecia). The Spanish royals name is Borbón (and each person has another surname from their other parent, Juan Carlos is actually Borbón y Borbón because his mother was a Two-Sicilies princess, Leonor and Sofía's second surname is Ortiz from Letizia)

[Cloaked]

Clara, that is informative. 
I always wondered (usually when I watch tennis) how the Spanish worked out their surnames.
I have read before that Edward decided to revert back to the more traditional way for his kids' surname, as in, to the way that would have occurred had Britain not been at war with Germany.

[Clara]

You're welcome Cloaked 

[bumbershoot]

What was the name by which Marie Antoinette was addressed once she was imprisoned? Wasn't it CItizeness Capet? And how about Emperor Puyi? Wasn't he just plain Comrade Puyi at the end?  If the various monarchies are abolished, how many of the former royals will want to cart around some of those double-barreled names?

[My13]

Skandinavian RF - reigning
Denmark: Oldenburg
Norway:  Oldenburg (prince Carl of Danmark - known as King Haakon VII - became king. He was a brother of king Christian X of Danmark)
Sweden: Bernadotte

European RF - reigning
Belgium: Wettin
Liechtenstein: von und zu Liechtenstein
Luxembourg: Nassau-Weilburg
Monaco: Grimaldi
Netherlands: Oranje-Nassau
Spain: Borbon y Grecia

Source of information- Europe's Royal Families (Compiled and edited by Burke's Peerage Copyright, 1979)

Clara already corrected the Spain mistake - Burke's is also wrong about Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, and Luxembourg.


Belgium

The last name of the born royals is "van België" in Dutch, "de Belgique" in French, and "von Belgien" in German.
The married in royals keep their last names.

Burke's is also wrong about the house name - it used to be Saxe-Coburg, but the name was dropped in 1920.


Denmark

Danish royals don't have last names.
Burke's is also wrong about the house name - it's Glücksborg, not Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg.


Norway

Norwegian royals don't have last names.
The house name is Glücksburg - it's the same as the Danish RF, but the Norwegian RF uses the German spelling.


Sweden

In 1979, the Swedish royals didn't have last names, so Burke's was wrong back then.

But in 2010, the Swedish government decided the royals' last name was Bernadotte, which is their house name. This allowed Daniel to take Victoria's name - Swedish law doesn't allow you to take a family name if you're not married or related to someone with the name.


Luxembourg

The last name of the born royals is "de Nassau" - I don't know about the married in royals.

[Clara]

Thank you My 

[pixiecat]

The Greek royals now have a last name   Constantine didn't want one, but now their passports say "de Grecia" (or at least the passports of the kids say this).  I think Constantine and AM have it too.