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« on: December 22, 2013, 09:30:18 AM »

British aristocrats - a tv series in four parts covering four families; http://urplay.se/Produkte...98-Brittiska-aristokrater

John Spencer-Churchill, 11th Duke of Marlborough http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._11th_Duke_of_Marlborough

Nicholas Ashley-Cooper, 12th Earl of Shaftesbury http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._12th_Earl_of_Shaftesbury

Charles Gordon-Lennox, Earl of March and Kinrara http://en.wikipedia.org/w...Earl_of_March_and_Kinrara

Rothschild family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

a rough translation of the series description;

How do modern British noble families live? We meet with representatives of four families and see how they face the ups and downs and how they live their lives. Common to them all is that they try to keep their family estate which is not always the easiest task when a title of nobility is not necessarily associated with wealth.

The programs are in English. You can remove the subtitles by pressing the T in the top right corner of the video. (I hope it's still visible outside of Sweden Secret)

Edit; found a English site http://www.channel4.com/i...formation/the-aristocrats with more info.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2013, 11:12:33 PM »

Thanks, Alicat--this sounds interesting/fun! Yes Star
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2013, 08:51:49 AM »

Thanks editorathome! Star Hug



My take on the series;

Part 1: Blenheim Palace: WOW! What a castle! And the history of the place is interesting. Though the next heir to the place, Jamie; that's what drugs do to you Crap He's clean now but  No (and I thought I saw Zara Philips at the end in the horse-show, at 46min Secret) So much unhappiness in the past(scandals, divorces, depression,drastic decisions) but it seems like the family is starting to heal. This documentary barely scratched the surface IMO and it was all a bit to stiff for me but It was still very interesting. Here is some back story; http://www.dailymail.co.u...keys-Blenheim-Palace.html

Part 2: Goodwood: What an action-packed documentary! This family has lots of flare, they are the "Monaco" of the aristocracy Champagne We got to see Courtney Love ( Secret) and Prince Michael of Kent driving a racing car Banana Fun parties, car racing, horse racing and the Earl was quite dashing Blush now and handsome when he was younger Cute. I liked that he was very direct and honest in the interview and could see the funny side of things. This documentary flew by too fast Yes Some advice from the earl; http://www.dailymail.co.u...s-success-Lord-March.html


Part 3: Shaftesbury: This was a rollercoaster of an episode to say the least. It was part a in-dept documentary of the new lord Shaftesbury and part total house renovation (the 10th earl really trashed the place Crazy) This is a big part of the documentary; http://www.dailymail.co.u...s-strip-family-title.html No . At the end of it I really felt for Nick and what he went through, he was very heartfelt and honest, such a decent man IMO and I wish him all the best.


Part 4: Rothschild: Rags to riches. They aren't a part of the British aristocracy according to them, and that's much to do with them being fairly new to the scene(1800's) and because they are Jewish (their words). They have a very interesting and tragic family history and are very proud of their achievements. I see them as very bright entrepreneurs and I'm impressed in the way they handle the question of inheritance. In stead of the usual "first male heir" they pass it on to the person best suited for the job even if it mean bypassing ones children for a cousin or other family members! Quite refreshing and clever, like someone said; "they haven't got that English decent into weak-chinned aristocracy", ouch! Yikes I like how they are very realistic and don't kid themselves about how thing really are. That's probably part of why they are so successful IMO. This gets a very passing mention http://www.dailymail.co.u...ent-scheme-blew-face.html Nono in regards to who gets to inherit Waddesdon Manor. And there's lots of modern art in this documentary! Cool


I hope you enjoy the series as much as I did! Beer
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 03:48:28 AM »

Putting this here because it seemed to fit.

A Sotheby's auction to be held 15 July contains several items "SOLD BY ORDER OF THE 12TH DUKE OF NORTHUMBERLAND AND THE TRUSTEES OF THE NORTHUMBERLAND ESTATES" (caps in the lot description).  There are letters from QEI, King Charles II, Oliver Cromwell, document from Henry VIII -- late 16th century and 17th century documents. They are the kinds of articles that would be of interest to a writer researching the time period. Is it common to sell these types of things? I know this is the Percy family. Is he a collector?
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2014, 11:11:40 PM »

It always fascinates me how the Percy family have been Dukes of Northumbria for 1000 years or so!
Way longer than the current royals, maybe there should be a coup!
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 11:22:19 PM »

Putting this here because it seemed to fit.

A Sotheby's auction to be held 15 July contains several items "SOLD BY ORDER OF THE 12TH DUKE OF NORTHUMBERLAND AND THE TRUSTEES OF THE NORTHUMBERLAND ESTATES" (caps in the lot description).  There are letters from QEI, King Charles II, Oliver Cromwell, document from Henry VIII -- late 16th century and 17th century documents. They are the kinds of articles that would be of interest to a writer researching the time period. Is it common to sell these types of things? I know this is the Percy family. Is he a collector?

My first thoughtless question is why aren't they donating them to the British Museum or the Nation at large? Then I think "$money$!!" - but the Percys have plenty of money, don't they? Or is it the modern problem of well to do on paper, that is, with assets and land but actually cash poor?  Inquiring minds want to know.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2014, 02:05:52 AM »

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Here's the link if you want to see what's up for auction.
Very good pictures of the items. You can read the documents.

http://www.sothebys.com/e...illustrations-l14404.html

Partial list:
FOUNTAINS ABBEY, LETTERS PATENT, 1540
QUEEN ELIZABETH I, LETTER SIGNED, 1569
CHARLES II, AUTOGRAPH LETTER SIGNED, 1659, WITH RELATED DOCUMENTS
CHARLES II, PROCLAMATION TO SUMMON THE REGICIDES, 1660
and more.

Exhibition time on the 14th 9am-4:30pm if you want to see it.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2014, 02:29:01 AM »

The following day is a jewelry auction.

These ear clips would be nice:  Grin

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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2014, 01:59:50 PM »

It always fascinates me how the Percy family have been Dukes of Northumbria for 1000 years or so!
Way longer than the current royals, maybe there should be a coup!
The Percy family have 'only' held the title of Duke of Northumberland since 1766.
They have however been the leading family in the north of England since 12th century.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2014, 01:04:51 AM »

I have my answer about the auction, sort of. Items are being sold to make up for monies spent to repair flood damage. I recall seeing some of the pictures. Foundations were undermined.

http://www.dailymail.co.u...2m-bill-flood-damage.html
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2014, 04:59:19 PM »

Not sure if this is the right thread to put this in, but anyway:

Winston Churchill's cousin the The Duke of Marlborough dies aged 88 - - passing his title to his ex-convict son

http://www.dailymail.co.u...title-ex-convict-son.html
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2014, 08:37:19 AM »

where can I found it to see it? the swedish side does not work anymore


British aristocrats - a tv series in four parts covering four families; http://urplay.se/Produkte...98-Brittiska-aristokrater

John Spencer-Churchill, 11th Duke of Marlborough http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._11th_Duke_of_Marlborough

Nicholas Ashley-Cooper, 12th Earl of Shaftesbury http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._12th_Earl_of_Shaftesbury

Charles Gordon-Lennox, Earl of March and Kinrara http://en.wikipedia.org/w...Earl_of_March_and_Kinrara

Rothschild family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

a rough translation of the series description;

How do modern British noble families live? We meet with representatives of four families and see how they face the ups and downs and how they live their lives. Common to them all is that they try to keep their family estate which is not always the easiest task when a title of nobility is not necessarily associated with wealth.

The programs are in English. You can remove the subtitles by pressing the T in the top right corner of the video. (I hope it's still visible outside of Sweden Secret)

Edit; found a English site http://www.channel4.com/i...formation/the-aristocrats with more info.

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 08:25:14 PM »

^LucyLiu, I love your icon image! But I can't imagine what in the world Kate is actually doing with her hand. It really does appear as if she's holding an invisible flute.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2014, 03:37:46 PM »

^LucyLiu, I love your icon image! But I can't imagine what in the world Kate is actually doing with her hand. It really does appear as if she's holding an invisible flute.

thank you, I love it too  Grin I've no idea what was she trying  to explain but it looks funny anyway  :huge smile:
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2014, 03:24:01 PM »

The Duke of Wellington has died aged 99, a day before the bicentenary year of the Battle of Waterloo

http://www.telegraph.co.u...lington-dies-aged-99.html

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The 8th Duke of Wellington, whose ancestor won the Battle of Waterloo, has died at the age of 99.

Arthur Valerian Wellesley, who was also known as the Prince of Waterloo, died peacefully today at his home on the Stratfield Saye Estate in Hampshire, surrounded by his family.
He was the great-great-grandson of the 1st Duke of Wellington, the "Iron Duke", who twice served as prime minister following his victory at Waterloo.
The 8th Duke's death comes just six months before the 200th anniversary of the defeat of Napoleon in what was then the United Kingdom of the Netherlands and is now Belgium

Educated at Eton and New College, Oxford, the 8th Duke served with the Royal Horse Guards in the Second World War, when he was decorated with the Military Cross for gallantry. He also served in Cyprus in 1957, and finished his career with a posting to Spain as defence attache.
His honorary appointments included the post of Deputy Colonel-in-Chief of the Yorkshire Regiment, Deputy Colonel of the Blues and Royals.
He was a member of the Order of the Garter and attended the annual investiture ceremony in June with the Queen and other members of the Royal family. His death leaves a vacancy in the Order, which has a maximum of 24 knights, in addition to the Queen and Royal knights.

Buckingham Palace said the Queen had been informed of his death.
A spokesman for the Duke said a private funeral for family and the estate will be held at Stratfield Saye Church on Thursday January 8.
The date of a memorial service to be held in London will be announced shortly, he said.
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