Why can't Mary be this happy in Denmark?

[danaport]

Hester   

But can someone please explain why official Australia is fawning over her? The official portrait? Hospital named after her? She isn't even Australian anymore. Why don't more Aussies publicy complain about their tax money being used to honor someone who couldn't wait to see the back of her Aussie citizenship in order to gain a title.

I agree. I must be missing something. The DRF has no official business here and no formal connections.  This tour and the last one should be underplayed by many orders of magnitude. Sure, have dinner organised for the Danish community - go up to Pennant Hills and visit the Lutheran Church (but no....) and then go on down Tassie way and visit your people.

Why staying at Government House?  Why, oh why, the Cancer Centre - when there are countless Australian people - I know them - you know them - cancer suffers, groundbreaking doctors, caring nurses, indigenous people - who missed out on recognition because this Centre - which will be used by millions of patients in this fast growing part of Sydney - had to be named for a woman who renounced citizenship of this Country and who has done nothing for anyone anywhere in Australia who has suffered from cancer.

Please would someone pass the bucket.

[getafix]

Please would someone pass the bucket.
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ummm Danaport, that bucket is a little busy and there is a whooooooooole que for it....

have a  to tie you over while you wait, hon

G

[Shalex]

I haven't seen one 'pout' photo since she's been in Oz 

[pocahontas]

One other thing that was a surprise though, was that her vibe was actually extremely - highly - scarily -  intelligent. I think she is a very, very cunning shrewd rat and will outsmart Fred and the DRF at every turn. They are done for. Nothing worse than a highly intelligent psychopathic narcissist. Utterly frightening - I can see know just why Prins Joachim and Prinsesse Marie give her a wide berth. You simply don't go near a psychopath, you take shelter and avert your eyes ... just as Jokke and Marie are doing. Just thank your lucky stars Aussies that she is out of Australia and is the DRF household's problem. When she is Queen she will be a menace. Poor stupid Fred.

Mary is a chimera.

I found this very interesting. I have known women of exactly this type and I agree they can be terrifying and many people will simply go along with what they want rather than upset them - I know I have done this. I am by no means unintelligent but I don't have the extra layer of psychopathic manipulation that I think - and agree - you say Mary has.  Most unpleasant.

I also have experience with such a person. Nothing is harder than going up against a cunning mentally ill person. The illness makes them irrational and unrelenting in whatever they pursue. The cunning makes them very good at manipulating and scheming. But like everyone, such a person has an achilles heel. They are so single-minded in their pursuits that they fail to see the big picture and their choices are tactical rather than strategic.

Here is Mary doing everything for her own personal gain of wealth and fame. She works so hard to craft her public image. She gets drunk on the staged public appearances thinking she's a star. She disregards Fred, her sugar daddy. But she overestimates her appeal to the public and her value outside of being royal.

Real celebrities like Lady Gaga and Beyonce have carefully crafted images too. But in addition to that, they have talent and they got to where they are on their own sweat. You take away their carefully crafted image and they still have their talent and their body of work.
Mary de-values Fred, but without him, she wouldn't be royal which takes away her only distinction and her carefully crafted image would disintegrate. What's left? No talent. No body of work. Nothing.

I just wish Fred would realize how much power he has over Mary and use it. Boot her to the curb!

[Barrie]

I think you are giving Mary far too much credit. Mary's life is all about timing and luck.  Mary was a girl that was appealing because she was so different than any girl he had ever dated. She was smart, kept her mouth shut and I the thought of returning to Australia to sail whenever he wanted was appealing. She could also be controlled as well as her family with money. They were just middle class enough to be respectable for the Danes back home and again, they whole Australian/exotic aspect appealed to the Danes as well. Also, Mary was lucky to ride the coattails of a divorce that rocked the DRF and insured Mary her marriage wouldn't suffer the same fate.

[danaport]

Please would someone pass the bucket.

ummm Danaport, that bucket is a little busy and there is a whooooooooole que for it....

have a  to tie you over while you wait, hon

G
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Thanks!!!  I can wait for the bucket too now that I have some of those grotty pics of Prinsesse Pancake, it took the pain away a bit.

[Mrs Soprano]

I agree Barrie, but I also think that Mary used her obsessive cunning to ensure that he didn't forget her, after their first encounter. Lets not forget she quickly dumped her friend's ?leaving work party in order to attend the gathering of royals at the Slipp Inn with Beatrice Tarnawski and others, and also gatecrashed the Danish handball team's party at a later date in order to reconnect with Fred. She had no qualms about using Beatrice, then dropping her like a stone when her relationship with Fred became serious. Within weeks she was striding like a tranny lumberjack at Starmakers, hell bent on getting her man. Sure there was an element of luck, but I'm sure that Mary was singlemindedly determined in her pursuit of Fred, and nothing or no-one could stop her. The description of her as a psychopath is an apt one, IMO.

[christina01]

Hi all, I'm new to this site, and love it. I was just wondering why people mention mary and freds marriage as being virtually over. is this the case, or just supposition? would love to know. thanks so much. newbie.

[whimsicalwriter]

Hi all, I'm new to this site, and love it. I was just wondering why people mention mary and freds marriage as being virtually over. is this the case, or just supposition? would love to know. thanks so much. newbie.

Mostly it's supposition based on there body language and various article/interviews. No 1 really knows for sure but there is a strong case for it based on body language alone.

[christina01]

Hester   

But can someone please explain why official Australia is fawning over her? The official portrait? Hospital named after her? She isn't even Australian anymore. Why don't more Aussies publicy complain about their tax money being used to honor someone who couldn't wait to see the back of her Aussie citizenship in order to gain a title.
[/I have to agree. more people should complain about the amount spent on a woman who is no longer aussie. this whole tour as far as i know is paid for by our government which makes me mad. cant stand mary either, she makes me ill with her self righteousness. quote]

[Diana Again]

I agree Barrie, but I also think that Mary used her obsessive cunning to ensure that he didn't forget her, after their first encounter. Lets not forget she quickly dumped her friend's ?leaving work party in order to attend the gathering of royals at the Slipp Inn with Beatrice Tarnawski and others, and also gatecrashed the Danish handball team's party at a later date in order to reconnect with Fred. She had no qualms about using Beatrice, then dropping her like a stone when her relationship with Fred became serious. Within weeks she was striding like a tranny lumberjack at Starmakers, hell bent on getting her man. Sure there was an element of luck, but I'm sure that Mary was singlemindedly determined in her pursuit of Fred, and nothing or no-one could stop her. The description of her as a psychopath is an apt one, IMO.

Mrs S, you are superb in your analysis, furthermore your description of mary 'striding like a tranny lumberjack' is a contender for the RD Hall of Fame - Well done!

[christina01]

Hi all, I'm new to this site, and love it. I was just wondering why people mention mary and freds marriage as being virtually over. is this the case, or just supposition? would love to know. thanks so much. newbie.

Mostly it's supposition based on there body language and various article/interviews. No 1 really knows for sure but there is a strong case for it based on body language alone.

Thankyou whimsicalwriter for the explanations.

[christina01]

please all bare with me, i'm new and just learning how to 'do' things on here so to speak. I keep making mistakes. 

[whimsicalwriter]

please all bare with me, i'm new and just learning how to 'do' things on here so to speak. I keep making mistakes. 

Don't worry we all make them. I'm still fairly new myself.

[pocahontas]

I agree Barrie, but I also think that Mary used her obsessive cunning to ensure that he didn't forget her, after their first encounter. Lets not forget she quickly dumped her friend's ?leaving work party in order to attend the gathering of royals at the Slipp Inn with Beatrice Tarnawski and others, and also gatecrashed the Danish handball team's party at a later date in order to reconnect with Fred. She had no qualms about using Beatrice, then dropping her like a stone when her relationship with Fred became serious. Within weeks she was striding like a tranny lumberjack at Starmakers, hell bent on getting her man. Sure there was an element of luck, but I'm sure that Mary was singlemindedly determined in her pursuit of Fred, and nothing or no-one could stop her. The description of her as a psychopath is an apt one, IMO.

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Agreed.
Absolutely, luck gave Mary opportunity. But she capitalized on every opportunity that came her way. She got her claws in and didn't let go. I'm fairly certain if Marge hadn't engaged her and Fred, she would be Waity Mary, hanging around as long as Fred wanted her to.

She made herself out to be the person she thought Fred wanted - uncomplicated, sporty, easy, etc. She made herself available to Fred 24x7 at the expense of building her own career and relationships. She kept friends and family from talking about her and Fred. And most remarkable of all, she kept away from the press pre-wedding. Knowing how publicity hungry and narcissistic she truly is, we know that last one of keeping away from the press for 4 years took a huge amount of determination and discipline for her. But she knew what she needed to do to get where she wanted to go.

Post wedding, she has crafted an image of the glamorous princess with her designer clothes that often don't suit her and she has honed the mother icon image by sprouting 4 kids though she has no maternal instincts. What else could her subjects want? She has courted the press to grow her popularity to get the public on her side. It appears to be working as most Danes seem to be drinking the Mary Kool-Aid. It won't be easy for the DRF to get rid of her. While she is supremely annoying to most RD'ers, she hasn't done anything Fergie-like to turn public opinion about her - also probably a huge exercise in self-control for her.

Who is Mary really? Mary's exterior changes as needed (which is a strong sign of illness, cunning, and manipulation), but what's constant is the narcissistic personality disorder that governs all her actions.