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« Reply #390 on: November 24, 2016, 10:55:41 PM »

Miss Marple: I really appreciate your views on Silvia   Star! I can't really put in words what I feel. But you make me see Silvia in a new and different light. Maybe in clear bright light actually! I am born early 1970 and I have worshipped Silvia from childhood, and never really seen any wrong with having a monarchy until I came to RD. I need to hear your view and correct my childhoods fairytale view of Silvia. Mostly I was in awe of her ballgowns and tiaras, but that has embarrassingly followed me into adulthood...of course monarchy is more than gowns and tiaras...more people need to realise that. So thank you Miss Marple!
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« Reply #391 on: November 24, 2016, 11:34:20 PM »

Bea is regal and radiates confidence and happiness. Even in the hard times she had (her husband being sick, loosing him, loosing her son), she showed sorrow, but in a remarkable and strong way. She seems to be at ease with herself. She even handled the Mable situation way cleverer than the Swedes handled Sofia.

Silvia does come across snobbish (a bit) and insecure somehow. She was in Germany today (?) at least lately and she was on TV earlier and her first quote was that the kids she visited were so disappointed she did not wear a crown. Maybe it was supposed to be funny, but she can't talk without it being about "status" somehow. She even refers to her daughter as "the crown princess" in that stiff and outdated way ...

It is always interesting to see how different people see things differently. It is good to see different sides to the same story.

I haven't really thought of her being snobbish or insecure.  Thinking Perhaps a bit stiff and shy though! Her visit is about the status she has anyway so it's no surprise to me if she talks of herself as queen or if kids are expecting a queen to be wearing a crown. I know I would have been disappointed as a kid if a queen was visiting my kindergarten or something and she arrived in a regular blazer and skirt when I was expecting a tiara and a ballgown. Or at least hoping to see something like that. I've also always thought it's natural that she refers to Victoria as the Crown Princess when she talks to others in an official setting. I would expect her to address her daughter in a more informal way when she's with her family on her free time. The same way I wouldn't be surprised to see for example a president's spouse calling their husband/wife (depending on whether the president is a man or a woman etc.) by their title when on an official setting. It would be weird to use a pet name or something like that IMO.

In general though, if I think about the things she's said in interviews, she does come off as snobbish. Especially in her engagement interview where she talks about a dream husband and how it doesn't matter if he is a boss of a big corporation or a king.  Roll Eyes I guess she was raised to think that way.
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« Reply #392 on: November 25, 2016, 12:09:51 AM »

Miss Marple: I really appreciate your views on Silvia   Star! I can't really put in words what I feel. But you make me see Silvia in a new and different light. Maybe in clear bright light actually! I am born early 1970 and I have worshipped Silvia from childhood, and never really seen any wrong with having a monarchy until I came to RD. I need to hear your view and correct my childhoods fairytale view of Silvia. Mostly I was in awe of her ballgowns and tiaras, but that has embarrassingly followed me into adulthood...of course monarchy is more than gowns and tiaras...more people need to realise that. So thank you Miss Marple!


He, he, yes, I remember when Silvia was first officially introduced in Sweden. AFAIK all my little though class mates fell as one for Silvia. She shone.
It may be hard to imagine now. What I see these days is more or less a wreck unfortunately.
But as you say our system of government shouldn't be about someone's "attractivity".  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #393 on: November 25, 2016, 11:31:34 AM »

Silvia was such a beautiful woman. It's a shame that she didn't age with grace and ruined her face with all the plastic surgeries No
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« Reply #394 on: November 26, 2016, 08:16:10 PM »

Miss Marple: I really appreciate your views on Silvia   Star! I can't really put in words what I feel. But you make me see Silvia in a new and different light. Maybe in clear bright light actually! I am born early 1970 and I have worshipped Silvia from childhood, and never really seen any wrong with having a monarchy until I came to RD. I need to hear your view and correct my childhoods fairytale view of Silvia. Mostly I was in awe of her ballgowns and tiaras, but that has embarrassingly followed me into adulthood...of course monarchy is more than gowns and tiaras...more people need to realise that. So thank you Miss Marple!

 Star My mom and my granny worshipped Silvia as well. In the 70s and 80s she managed to convince the world of a fairytale: Love at first sight, being the perfect queen - she was naturally goodlooking and graceful, knew how to use her kids as a prop, still hard-working and into charity. You could not blame her for anything.

It was the Silvia of later years when you realized that she was also superficial: how Victoria became sick with all the pressure, how Madde and CP turned out not to be great kids (even Madde learned her lessons), how she could not leave her face alone, how badly Dan was treated (especially in comparison to the snake), how snobbis her interviews were, how she smiled CGs excapades away.

In fact in the 70s and 80s she sensed what people expected of her and she fulfilled these expectations. All later events she was not able to control. She knew what it was like to be a married to a cheater. Still she kept quiet and let Madde run into her first engagement ... with a cheater. She has become a very unbelievable character in a charade.

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« Reply #395 on: January 27, 2017, 07:55:08 PM »

Yesterday, Silvia presented the scholarship from the Micael Bindefeld Foundation in Memory of the Holocaust. The scholarship was delivered to Jacob M?hlrad for his choral works of his grandfather Michael Bliman's time in the concentration camps Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen.











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« Reply #396 on: January 27, 2017, 08:04:30 PM »

Wasn't this event held today because it's Holocaust Remembrance Day today?
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« Reply #397 on: February 26, 2017, 03:09:13 AM »

Came across the photograph of Silvia and thought I would share it. It is easy to see where Victoria and Madeleine inherited their looks.  I think Silvia looks lovely.

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« Reply #398 on: February 26, 2017, 03:48:42 AM »

Miss Marple: I really appreciate your views on Silvia   Star! I can't really put in words what I feel. But you make me see Silvia in a new and different light. Maybe in clear bright light actually! I am born early 1970 and I have worshipped Silvia from childhood, and never really seen any wrong with having a monarchy until I came to RD. I need to hear your view and correct my childhoods fairytale view of Silvia. Mostly I was in awe of her ballgowns and tiaras, but that has embarrassingly followed me into adulthood...of course monarchy is more than gowns and tiaras...more people need to realise that. So thank you Miss Marple!

 Star My mom and my granny worshipped Silvia as well. In the 70s and 80s she managed to convince the world of a fairytale: Love at first sight, being the perfect queen - she was naturally goodlooking and graceful, knew how to use her kids as a prop, still hard-working and into charity. You could not blame her for anything.

It was the Silvia of later years when you realized that she was also superficial: how Victoria became sick with all the pressure, how Madde and CP turned out not to be great kids (even Madde learned her lessons), how she could not leave her face alone, how badly Dan was treated (especially in comparison to the snake), how snobbis her interviews were, how she smiled CGs excapades away.

In fact in the 70s and 80s she sensed what people expected of her and she fulfilled these expectations. All later events she was not able to control. She knew what it was like to be a married to a cheater. Still she kept quiet and let Madde run into her first engagement ... with a cheater. She has become a very unbelievable character in a charade.



Can someone please tell me could Mrs Joker would have been allowed to divorce King Pervert at all?
could she have gotten a nice house, keep doing her charity work, and live a comfortable existence being an ex-queen?
or was she or is she too concerned with the titles and glamour?

Thx in advance

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« Reply #399 on: February 26, 2017, 05:21:08 PM »

Miss Marple: I really appreciate your views on Silvia   Star! I can't really put in words what I feel. But you make me see Silvia in a new and different light. Maybe in clear bright light actually! I am born early 1970 and I have worshipped Silvia from childhood, and never really seen any wrong with having a monarchy until I came to RD. I need to hear your view and correct my childhoods fairytale view of Silvia. Mostly I was in awe of her ballgowns and tiaras, but that has embarrassingly followed me into adulthood...of course monarchy is more than gowns and tiaras...more people need to realise that. So thank you Miss Marple!

 Star My mom and my granny worshipped Silvia as well. In the 70s and 80s she managed to convince the world of a fairytale: Love at first sight, being the perfect queen - she was naturally goodlooking and graceful, knew how to use her kids as a prop, still hard-working and into charity. You could not blame her for anything.

It was the Silvia of later years when you realized that she was also superficial: how Victoria became sick with all the pressure, how Madde and CP turned out not to be great kids (even Madde learned her lessons), how she could not leave her face alone, how badly Dan was treated (especially in comparison to the snake), how snobbis her interviews were, how she smiled CGs excapades away.

In fact in the 70s and 80s she sensed what people expected of her and she fulfilled these expectations. All later events she was not able to control. She knew what it was like to be a married to a cheater. Still she kept quiet and let Madde run into her first engagement ... with a cheater. She has become a very unbelievable character in a charade.


Can someone please tell me could Mrs Joker would have been allowed to divorce King Pervert at all?
could she have gotten a nice house, keep doing her charity work, and live a comfortable existence being an ex-queen?
or was she or is she too concerned with the titles and glamour?

Thx in advance

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I don't think there's any way of knowing how Silvia thought and what she could have done. There's undoubtedly a prenup in place, but I think the situation would have been very, very messy. I don't think the SRF have had a healthy and happy  home but they children all seem to love their parents so it all can't have been terrible. I think that has been a big factor here - that three almost adult children in some ways didn't want/could cope with a messy divorce and what it might have meant for the monarchy. It's possible they feared the monarchy falling and was united in not wanting that to happen. Both CG and Silvia seem equally in love with the glamour and gold - imagine having your personal mess bringing down the monarchy and taking it away from your children.. I think both are too proud for that to happen.
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« Reply #400 on: February 26, 2017, 07:08:19 PM »

Given when they married, I doubt they have a prenup. Prenups weren't the norm in royal families until after the Windsor nightmares of the mid-1990s. In 1976, I seriously doubt anyone in Sweden ever thought the marriage could ever legally end. If they came to despise one another, they'd do what royal couple have done for generations and just live separate lives, coming together for PR and their kids.
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« Reply #401 on: February 26, 2017, 08:44:36 PM »

I think we have to remember that CG and Silvia are of a certain generation, rather like Margrethe and Henrik of Denmark and Paola and Albert of Belgium or The Duke & Duchess of Kent that were brought up to believe if a marriage broke down in the conventional sense you just put on a brave face and get on with your job living your lives separately if necessary but ever actually divorcing.

If CG did stray as is so often reported I doubt he and Silvia were in a good place together but I think neither would have seriously considered divorce unless things got so bad they couldn't even put of the facade anymore.
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« Reply #402 on: February 26, 2017, 08:56:11 PM »

Surely divorcing a reigning monarch would been without precedent in Sweden, and rare beyond that?  From my (limited) knowledge, wasn't Charles and Diana's divorce one of the highest ranking divorces - between an heir and their spouse - nevermind what a reigning monarch would have been.
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« Reply #403 on: February 26, 2017, 09:14:42 PM »

Came across the photograph of Silvia and thought I would share it. It is easy to see where Victoria and Madeleine inherited their looks.  I think Silvia looks lovely.



Goodness, she was really gorgeous!! Such a shame she ruined her face so much, wish she'd aged more gracefully, I bet she'd look much much more beautiful with maybe more wrinkles, but therefore natural beauty...
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« Reply #404 on: February 26, 2017, 09:48:35 PM »

I think Silvia loves being Queen and she loves the importance. There are numerous sources saying that even her closest circle has to address her formally (even their son in law said that they were very formal) and I think she loves the work she is doing. She loved it so much that her kids felt neglected growing up.

So I think yes, theoretically she could divorce CG. But she would loose the social position she loves so much and she sacrificed so much for. So practically - she will stay Queen. 
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