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« Reply #3345 on: August 30, 2024, 05:49:59 PM »

Oh dear. There’s video of Marius out drinking in Pisa you can see it here

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Translation https://www-seher-no.tran..._hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

If he went there to get away from the press it hasn’t worked because they’ve sent reporting teams to Pisa to see what’s happening.

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« Reply #3346 on: August 30, 2024, 07:33:02 PM »

The press followed him and caught him partying....I'd never have predicted that...oh wait!

He is so spoilt. Still can't believe MM and Haakon seem okay with it.
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« Reply #3347 on: August 30, 2024, 07:45:28 PM »

The press followed him and caught him partying....I'd never have predicted that...oh wait!

He is so spoilt. Still can't believe MM and Haakon seem okay with it.

He really is so spoilt.

This is a good article reacting to the partying in Pisa and the final paragraph is so pointed!

Original https://www.nettavisen.no...-ingenting/s/5-95-1991307

Translation https://www-nettavisen-no..._hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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- For a long time I have struggled with substance abuse, something I have been in treatment for in the past, he wrote.

- I will now resume this treatment and take it very seriously.

Doesn’t look like it!
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« Reply #3348 on: August 30, 2024, 07:46:53 PM »

But do we know that they are Ok with it. He is 27,  he can do what he want without asking his parents. They have now formal rights over what he does anymore and he obiously does not seem like someone that takes advice at all.

The only thing Haakon has said is that «they knew what Marius told them» that implies to me that he has not presisly told them everything.

He has also made it pretty clear no big statements or decisions is comming during the wedding, but I see they have aldready  changed the photo on kongehuset from one with the whole family incl Marius, Martha Louise and her girls to one from national day with only King queen, Cp couple and Ingrid Alexandra
https://www.kongehuset.no...l?tid=27163&sek=26940

It would supprise me alot if not something was anounced after this wedding is over. First thing he should stop living at Skaugum, and probably he will be defined out of the royal family (Im sure he wont protest) the same should happen with ML and her family( who will protest)
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« Reply #3349 on: August 30, 2024, 07:52:29 PM »

Well I use to think that but where is his money coming from? Who pays for his rent?  Who funds his lifestyle - Rolex Watches and more?

No, I'm sorry but I'm fed up of giving them a pass. If I was living in a house paid for by my parents and did something like Marius has been charged with I know for sure my bags would be packed for me and I'd be either kicked out or moved back into the family home under basically house arrest.

If they are funding his lifestyle - even just by paying for his rent so he therefore has more disposable income - they have some element of control over him.

Likewise, today at ML's wedding we see their youngest son take this moment to walk out with his girlfriend - at the same time their eldest son and his personal life is plastered all over the front pages. I massively question their judgement in many areas TBH.
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« Reply #3350 on: August 30, 2024, 08:02:06 PM »

I’ll believe in firm, corrective action from the Norwegian Royal Family when I see it. I really hope you are right Larzen, and if they are sensible they will do something of the sort, but given how far Harald has let ML go, and how fiercely MM has defended Marius to date, I’m sceptical.
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« Reply #3351 on: August 30, 2024, 08:04:40 PM »

The press followed him and caught him partying....I'd never have predicted that...oh wait!

He is so spoilt. Still can't believe MM and Haakon seem okay with it.

They may or may not be okay with it. Marius is an addict. When tested in recovery a lot of addicts meet the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder - NPD. He's showing I'll bloody well do what I want behavior, IMHO.

Maruis has been to rehab before - and payed lip service to 'taking rehab seriously' this time."

Since he's still doing exactly as he wishes, and still partying with friends - beer and who knows what else, rehab won't do him a whole lot of good. He has to hit rock bottom and admit he has addictions for him to even begin the road to recovery. Which he will be on the rest of his life.

In the midst of this he must also grapple with and own up to his violent actions. That's a whole other realm of things he has to deal with.

The Norwegian system seems set to help deal with this kind of thing. This will take a long time to unpack, unravel and for Maruis to begin to rebuild his life and to make amends for what he has done. Years - not months.

There also needs to be no interference from the NRF - because it seems Marius is very used to bullsh**ing them.

Since I fully believe Marius has been coddled and sheilded for quite awhile, MM and the NRF would do well to stay out of it - and away from Marius until invited in to participate in his recovery, and they also need some instruction on interacting with a family member who is an addict, and how to help, not hurt, his recovery.







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« Reply #3352 on: August 30, 2024, 08:48:29 PM »

ITA Ralf.
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« Reply #3353 on: August 30, 2024, 09:18:53 PM »

ITA Ralf.

ITA MM and Haakon need to cut off any allowance of financial help, along with much smaller and less posh housing.

But then I also think Haakon, Harald and Sonja should have been present for the wedding only.
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« Reply #3354 on: August 31, 2024, 02:39:25 AM »

The press followed him and caught him partying....I'd never have predicted that...oh wait!

He is so spoilt. Still can't believe MM and Haakon seem okay with it.

They may or may not be okay with it. Marius is an addict. When tested in recovery a lot of addicts meet the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder - NPD. He's showing I'll bloody well do what I want behavior, IMHO.

Maruis has been to rehab before - and payed lip service to 'taking rehab seriously' this time."

Since he's still doing exactly as he wishes, and still partying with friends - beer and who knows what else, rehab won't do him a whole lot of good. He has to hit rock bottom and admit he has addictions for him to even begin the road to recovery. Which he will be on the rest of his life.

In the midst of this he must also grapple with and own up to his violent actions. That's a whole other realm of things he has to deal with.

The Norwegian system seems set to help deal with this kind of thing. This will take a long time to unpack, unravel and for Maruis to begin to rebuild his life and to make amends for what he has done. Years - not months.

There also needs to be no interference from the NRF - because it seems Marius is very used to bullsh**ing them.

Since I fully believe Marius has been coddled and sheilded for quite awhile, MM and the NRF would do well to stay out of it - and away from Marius until invited in to participate in his recovery, and they also need some instruction on interacting with a family member who is an addict, and how to help, not hurt, his recovery.

excellent posts LL & ralf  Star Star

why do I get the feeling Marius will not change...it'll be SS:DD story...

you know it is very sad. just dad. he has much to achieve and live for and he is fecking up his life like this...as granma used to say, think of all those unfortunate children who have nothing to eat so finish your meal!

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« Reply #3355 on: August 31, 2024, 03:44:52 AM »

The press followed him and caught him partying....I'd never have predicted that...oh wait!

He is so spoilt. Still can't believe MM and Haakon seem okay with it.

He really is so spoilt.

This is a good article reacting to the partying in Pisa and the final paragraph is so pointed!

Original https://www.nettavisen.no...-ingenting/s/5-95-1991307

Translation https://www-nettavisen-no..._hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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- For a long time I have struggled with substance abuse, something I have been in treatment for in the past, he wrote.

- I will now resume this treatment and take it very seriously.

Doesn’t look like it!

He appears to be talking to the reporters which is mind boggling
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« Reply #3356 on: August 31, 2024, 08:57:09 AM »

Suspect the NRF had serious discussions when Marius was young as to how to "manage" an adjacent royal who wasn't really a royal at all. 

The ideal for them would be that he would live a quiet and respectable life with suitable friends - working at a job which required maybe a degree / perhaps with a charity / civil service / diplomacy / military - nothing to embarrass them

to this end I suspect enough money was put into trust so he would be "very comfortable" - and not need to sell any stories to the press. He would be educated wherever was appropriate - the problem with this I think is that he may have struggled academically, uninterested in much  and therefore unlikely to take on the level of role they expected - also the money all got spent on "the wrong things"

he then ended up as a rich young man, with no real role , and the inability to see that he was surrounded by dodgy friends and hangers on who just wanted some of the glitter
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« Reply #3357 on: August 31, 2024, 03:15:48 PM »

Suspect the NRF had serious discussions when Marius was young as to how to "manage" an adjacent royal who wasn't really a royal at all. 

The ideal for them would be that he would live a quiet and respectable life with suitable friends - working at a job which required maybe a degree / perhaps with a charity / civil service / diplomacy / military - nothing to embarrass them

to this end I suspect enough money was put into trust so he would be "very comfortable" - and not need to sell any stories to the press. He would be educated wherever was appropriate - the problem with this I think is that he may have struggled academically, uninterested in much  and therefore unlikely to take on the level of role they expected - also the money all got spent on "the wrong things"

he then ended up as a rich young man, with no real role , and the inability to see that he was surrounded by dodgy friends and hangers on who just wanted some of the glitter

don't forget that he didn't really fit in anywhere. his father had a new family of his own. ditto for his mother. not that they didn't love him any less. but he was not part of a unit as such. he belonged to both. but neither at the same time.

its no wonder he went off the rails...

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« Reply #3358 on: August 31, 2024, 03:49:43 PM »

I still think this is no reason to go off the rails. Other people have had much more difficult lives and didn't become violent and criminal.
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« Reply #3359 on: August 31, 2024, 03:52:40 PM »

I still think this is no reason to go off the rails. Other people have had much more difficult lives and didn't become violent and criminal.


agree - it may well be a  case of the best laid plans just failing - you can only do so much for kids, the rest is down to genes and chance
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