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« Reply #570 on: January 31, 2021, 08:48:36 PM »

He should be mainly a part-time royal. But Hakoon is (1) not ready, (2) not a workhorse ... So maybe he keeps going until he dies (much like Marge) that he does not have to watch MM with dark roots and a curtain a debatable frock and a smug face becoming queen and Hakoon with brown shoes following her path until they disappear at some self-finding sessions somewhere.
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« Reply #571 on: February 01, 2021, 10:28:17 AM »

He should be mainly a part-time royal. But Hakoon is (1) not ready, (2) not a workhorse ... So maybe he keeps going until he dies (much like Marge) that he does not have to watch MM with dark roots and a curtain a debatable frock and a smug face becoming queen and Hakoon with brown shoes following her path until they disappear at some self-finding sessions somewhere.

Sometimes people need to be thrown into the cold water. I think with Haakon this could work.

Fred sadly will never be ready.
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« Reply #572 on: February 01, 2021, 11:31:31 AM »

I find Haakon probably the best prepared heir in Norways royal history, with a big positive compared to his father and grandfather, he is not shy and is outgoing and has an easy way with press and public. Harald was painfully shy for quite a few years, and his good humour and easy way has come with age.

Haakon has been regent many times and for longer periodes and IMO done it well, I dont think any of his fellow heirs has had so much time as a regents as he has. He has done and hosted all types of events alone, state visits, opening of Stortinget new years speech, audiences, dinners and what not, in his fathers absences.

Even if his many events dont get so much attention he has events almost every day, often several.

Then there is a tradition in Norway to look sceptical at the heir: How could Olav take over from our first King. How could Harald follow the popular "Peoples king" and now Harald is probably at his height of popularity...lets just say it looks like we like our Kings quite old Roll Eyes

What happens with his wife I dont know, but Haakon will stick to his role Im sure of it, the problem is the preassure that will fall on his dauthers shoulder next january when she turns 18, and she will more or less be the sole young female royal in Norway considering the probably limited role her mother will have.
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« Reply #573 on: February 01, 2021, 02:29:49 PM »

I find Haakon probably the best prepared heir in Norways royal history, with a big positive compared to his father and grandfather, he is not shy and is outgoing and has an easy way with press and public. Harald was painfully shy for quite a few years, and his good humour and easy way has come with age.

Haakon has been regent many times and for longer periodes and IMO done it well, I dont think any of his fellow heirs has had so much time as a regents as he has. He has done and hosted all types of events alone, state visits, opening of Stortinget new years speech, audiences, dinners and what not, in his fathers absences.

Even if his many events dont get so much attention he has events almost every day, often several.

Then there is a tradition in Norway to look sceptical at the heir: How could Olav take over from our first King. How could Harald follow the popular "Peoples king" and now Harald is probably at his height of popularity...lets just say it looks like we like our Kings quite old Roll Eyes

What happens with his wife I dont know, but Haakon will stick to his role Im sure of it, the problem is the preassure that will fall on his dauthers shoulder next january when she turns 18, and she will more or less be the sole young female royal in Norway considering the probably limited role her mother will have.

Thank you for the insight. Star

Yes, IA won't have it easy. I know SM is still too young to be considered as help. But do you think he will in the future?
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« Reply #574 on: February 01, 2021, 07:18:07 PM »

Larzen, I do agree with you.
I think almost all transitions are somewhat painful (with the exception of the spanish one). People have come to love and accept the current souvereign and the new one is initially doubted. I think this is fairly normal in evolution, the ending of one epoch and the beginning of a new one is always a matter of insecurtity, doubts and change.
I think this is best evidenced in GB: every new monarch was side-eyed: the far too young Victoria (who was, next to being unprepared also female!) the unprepared, scandal-ridden Prince Edward, the terribly shy and stammering Bertie, the again far too young and female Elisabeth - and all become quite beloved and admired. Now we hear and see comments about Charles being unprepared (what?) and incapable. Yet I believe if he has the time to put a bit of a stamp to his reign, again, everybody will question whether William will ever be able to be as good as his father...
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« Reply #575 on: February 07, 2021, 06:11:14 PM »

Thanks for the insight ... I think Harald is just very popular and he is doing a lovely job - he is regal but very warm and caring at the same time. I don't think we will ever see much work done by MM (whether she can't or won't will remain secret) so there would be a visible shift to put responsibility  on IA. She is 17, so she deserves a few more "normal" years before she really lifts heavy weights.

ML would have been perfect to step in, but this is not happening for obvious reasons.
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« Reply #576 on: February 12, 2021, 04:59:10 PM »

https://www.kongehuset.no...tid=186578&sek=112472

Harald's sick leave has been extended until March 14

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« Reply #577 on: February 12, 2021, 08:23:46 PM »

https://www.kongehuset.no...tid=186578&sek=112472

Harald's sick leave has been extended until March 14



That doesn't sound good.

Hopefully he'll recover fully.
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« Reply #578 on: February 28, 2021, 09:00:15 PM »

Bill Clinton sent Harald & Sonja greetings on the occasion of their 30 years on the throne: https://twitter.com/OAanm...tatus/1366073068976820224

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« Reply #579 on: March 12, 2021, 08:19:41 PM »

https://www.kongehuset.no...tid=186758&sek=112472

His Majesty the King's sick leave is extended until 11 April. The King is in good recovery and continues treatment and training after the surgery for torn knee tendons
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« Reply #580 on: March 12, 2021, 08:50:02 PM »

https://www.kongehuset.no...tid=186758&sek=112472

His Majesty the King's sick leave is extended until 11 April. The King is in good recovery and continues treatment and training after the surgery for torn knee tendons

Whew! That is good news indeed for a  lovely king!

Reflecting upon  Great King Harald: IIRC,  Harold threatened not to marry but continue with his royal duties if he could not marry Sonja while others in similar positions threatened to quit.
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« Reply #581 on: March 13, 2021, 12:59:51 AM »

https://www.kongehuset.no...tid=186758&sek=112472

His Majesty the King's sick leave is extended until 11 April. The King is in good recovery and continues treatment and training after the surgery for torn knee tendons

Whew! That is good news indeed for a  lovely king!

Reflecting upon  Great King Harald: IIRC,  Harold threatened not to marry but continue with his royal duties if he could not marry Sonja while others in similar positions threatened to quit.

Why was she considered unsuitable?  That's really interesting that he, if I am understanding this correctly, basically said that if they couldn't marry, he'd fulfill his responsibility as king but don't expect any heirs and good luck when he's gone?
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« Reply #582 on: March 13, 2021, 08:04:16 AM »

https://www.kongehuset.no...tid=186758&sek=112472

His Majesty the King's sick leave is extended until 11 April. The King is in good recovery and continues treatment and training after the surgery for torn knee tendons

Whew! That is good news indeed for a  lovely king!

Reflecting upon  Great King Harald: IIRC,  Harold threatened not to marry but continue with his royal duties if he could not marry Sonja while others in similar positions threatened to quit.

Why was she considered unsuitable?  That's really interesting that he, if I am understanding this correctly, basically said that if they couldn't marry, he'd fulfill his responsibility as king but don't expect any heirs and good luck when he's gone?

Sonja was a commoner and royals marrying commoners was unusual back then. They dated nine years until King Olav finally gave them permission to marry.
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« Reply #583 on: March 13, 2021, 09:14:26 AM »

https://www.kongehuset.no...tid=186758&sek=112472

His Majesty the King's sick leave is extended until 11 April. The King is in good recovery and continues treatment and training after the surgery for torn knee tendons

Whew! That is good news indeed for a  lovely king!

Reflecting upon  Great King Harald: IIRC,  Harold threatened not to marry but continue with his royal duties if he could not marry Sonja while others in similar positions threatened to quit.

Why was she considered unsuitable?  That's really interesting that he, if I am understanding this correctly, basically said that if they couldn't marry, he'd fulfill his responsibility as king but don't expect any heirs and good luck when he's gone?

That is pretty much what would have happened. Until 1990, male  primogeniture applied to the succession. Harald had two sisters. Absolute primogeniture would have had to be enacted at some time whether  Harald had direct descendants or not. Frankly, Harald just probably gave people enough time to get used to the idea that his consort was going to be Sonja or outlive his father. They did break up at some point as a result of the opposition to their marriage.
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« Reply #584 on: March 13, 2021, 11:17:17 AM »

https://www.kongehuset.no...tid=186758&sek=112472

His Majesty the King's sick leave is extended until 11 April. The King is in good recovery and continues treatment and training after the surgery for torn knee tendons

Whew! That is good news indeed for a  lovely king!

Reflecting upon  Great King Harald: IIRC,  Harold threatened not to marry but continue with his royal duties if he could not marry Sonja while others in similar positions threatened to quit.

Why was she considered unsuitable?  That's really interesting that he, if I am understanding this correctly, basically said that if they couldn't marry, he'd fulfill his responsibility as king but don't expect any heirs and good luck when he's gone?

That is pretty much what would have happened. Until 1990, male  primogeniture applied to the succession. Harald had two sisters. Absolute primogeniture would have had to be enacted at some time whether  Harald had direct descendants or not. Frankly, Harald just probably gave people enough time to get used to the idea that his consort was going to be Sonja or outlive his father. They did break up at some point as a result of the opposition to their marriage.

But supposedly they really wouldn't have been allowed to marry and Harald stayed single.

Then what? At his death there would've been no heirs. Would've they've allowed Ragnhilds line to inherit? (commoners as well) Or would they've looked further to the Danish Royal house? Or become a republic?
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