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« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2018, 07:03:08 PM »

Please tell me all these people are inbred.

There is no excuse for how they look.
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« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2018, 07:45:02 PM »

Please tell me all these people are inbred.

There is no excuse for how they look.


of course they are, Spoonie...on the motherside the MGparents stemm both from the d'Orleans, and the PGparents go back to Karl & Zit Habsburg.

I'm scared to look up the Arco-Zinneberg line, because they all look like bufo's cinereus vulgaris. I'm not opening this toad box.
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« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2018, 07:47:28 PM »

Given the eyes of father Arco Zinneberg, I am inclined to presume that he may have fathered Özil out of wedlock.


(Sorry, but I HAD to write it  Clown).


@Peeds, given that Count Arco Zinneberg descends from the Bavarian Kings in maternal line you would for sure find several common ancestors in his line as well.
And he has common ancestors with his wife, too.
One must be grateful that the Habsburgs tended to have 6+ children in former centuries. It could be much worse if not Wink!
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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2018, 11:25:21 PM »

House of Württemberg

The Württemberg family is a German royal family and dynasty from Württemberg.



County of Württemberg
The House has its origins, according to recent research, probably in the vicinity of the Salian dynasty. Around 1080 the ancestors of modern Württemberg, which was then called "Wirtemberg", settled in the Stuttgart area. Conrad of Württemberg became heir to the House of Beutelsbach and built the Wirtemberg Castle. Around 1089, he was made Count. Their domains, initially only the immediate surroundings of the castle included, increased steadily, mainly through acquisitions such as those from impoverished homes of Tübingen.

Duchy of Württemberg
At the Diet of Worms in 1495, Count Eberhard V was raised to Duke (Herzog) by the German King, later Holy Roman Emperor, Maximilian I. During 1534 to 1537 Duke Ulrich introduced the Protestant Reformation, and the country became Protestant. Duke Ulrich became head of the local Protestant Church.

In the 18th Century, the Protestant male line became extinct, the Head of the House was succeeded by Duke Charles Alexander a Roman Catholic. Despite having a Catholic royal family, Protestantism survived as the established church, run by a church council composed by members of the nobility of Württemberg. From 1797, with the accession of Duke Frederick II, the royal family was again Protestant.


Kingdom of Württemberg
Due to the political upheavals during the reign of Napoleon I, and being an ally of Napoleon, Württemberg became a part of the Confederation of the Rhine, Duke Frederick II was made Elector in May 1803, he collected and received secularized and mediated dominions, which greatly enlarged his country in territorial extension. In January 1806 he was made King of Württemberg.

In 1828 King William I adopted a new house law, the rights and obligations of the ruling family have been established, including the exclusive primogeniture in the male line as well as marriage restrictions on coequal level.

In 1867 the House created the Royal Dukedom of Urach for a younger cousin, Prince Wilhelm, 1st Duke of Urach, whose parents had married morganatically in 1800, whereby their sons were excluded from ruling the kingdom. In 1871 the Royal Dukedom of Teck was created for the same dynastic reason for Francis, Duke of Teck.

At the end of World War I during the German Revolution all the monarchies in Germany were abolished, King William II abdicated on 30 November 1918. When former King William II died in 1921 the senior branch line of the House of Württemberg became extinct, the headship of the House passed to a distant relative, Albrecht, Duke of Württemberg.


Heads of the House of Württemberg since 1918



King Wilhelm II, 1918-1921



Duke Albrecht, 1921-1939


Duke Philipp, 1939-1975


Duke Carl, since 1975 (grandfather of bride)

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Married: July 21, 1960, to Princess Diane of Orléans
Children:
– Friedrich, Hereditary Duke of Württemberg (1961)
– Duchess Mathilde (1962)
– Duke Eberhard (1963)
Duke Philipp (1964) (father of bride)
– Duke Michael (1965)
– Duchess Eleonore Fleur (1977)










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« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2018, 11:25:46 PM »

^^^^

September 15
Sophie von Württemberg (24) married her Maximilien d'Andigné (29) in a civil ceremony at Schloss Altshausen (near Ravensburg).

The daughter of Philipp von Württemberg (53) and Caroline of Bavaria (49) and the passionate polo player in London got to know each other. The church wedding is to follow in October at Schloss Tegernsee.

For the family, the marriage is a bright spot after a long period of mourning. In May, Friedrich von Württemberg († 56) died in a car accident. He was the eldest son of Haus-Chef Duke Carl von Württemberg (82) and uncle of Braut Sophie.


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« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2018, 01:32:33 AM »




Maximilien d'Andigné (29) belongs to succesful yet traditional French aristocracy. This good looking fellow has hunting and polo as hobbies. At his young age he's the Vice President for Energy Derivatives at Mitsui Bussan Commodities in London.








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« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2018, 01:40:57 AM »

^^^^Sophie’s aunt is Hereditary Princess Sophie of Liechtenstein.
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« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2018, 04:17:01 AM »

Why do a lot of these continental royals/aristos have their civil weddings so separate from their church weddings?  Ig Princess Grace and Prince Ranier had their civil wedding the day before their religious one. 
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« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2018, 10:50:54 AM »

It is normal here to have the civil and religious wedding on different days and often people have some time between the two weddings. The civil one is the one that is legal and counts, the church one is just an additional extra that has no legal bindings in most European countries. So you have to have your civil wedding first and lots of people chose the date for the religious wedding so that they can get the venue they want for the party and that most of their guests can attend.
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« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2018, 12:08:53 PM »

Same here. The civil ceremony is the only one legally recognised. And it must take place before any religious ceremony.

The good thing is as a bride you can wear at least two different gowns if you are not having the two ceremonies on the same day  Wink
Or even four dresses if you have one dress for the ceremony and a different one for the dinner / evening each time
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« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2018, 02:12:39 PM »

Thanks Trier and Elissa  Star
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« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2018, 04:16:58 PM »

Wow, had to go and look them up. Is this them?



The one on the right isn't so bad, though you can tell the lights are on but nobody's home. The sister on the left is just Yikes

ok, I am relieved to see I am not the only one thinking this family is seriously lacking in attractiveness...
the one on the left is Jean-Christophe's girlfriend of many years, it's said.
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« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2018, 04:18:05 PM »

And her sisters apparently decided to go with "fug" as their dress-code.



(the one in the top hat is another of the sisters; she's dating that Jean-Christophe Napoleon, who is kind of hot and to the best of my knowledge, not related to her).

Fug is their default style. I am yet to see any of them wearing anything well, not fug...

Edit to add: Jean-C IS hot. I've seen him irl and he is even hotter than on photos.
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« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2018, 12:54:54 AM »


What a gorgeous couple!  Congrats to them Champagne
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