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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2013, 06:18:50 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2013, 06:20:57 PM »

Wasn't Ceawlin Weymouth accused of being a nuisance neighbour or something? I think the police were involved.

Edit - here it is http://www.telegraph.co.u...ours-with-loud-music.html
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2013, 11:02:02 PM »

I haven't seen pictures from the wedding, yet. There were 355 guests. Rylan Clark is the entertainment. The ceremony was held in the Orangery. It's not known if Ceawlin's father attended or not. He was seen getting into a chauffeured car this AM and supposedly heading to another wedding. They got into some tiff about the murals in Longleat. I would hope he wouldn't miss his son's wedding day.
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2013, 12:51:47 AM »

Sheesh, she's not a marchioness YET.  Her father-in-law has to die while she's still married to the heir (not that I'm saying they'll divorce).  She's still only a viscountess *by*courtesy*.

I am looking forward to photographs of this wedding (I love looking at wedding dresses).
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2013, 12:56:57 AM »

Ceawlin's mother and father did not attend his wedding. That is seriously messed up. DM has pictures of them at a wedding in Hampshire. This family is wow. I hope Emma knows what she's marrying in to. I do want to see her dress.
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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2013, 04:33:22 AM »

What a motley crew!

Why isn't Amber one of the wifelets! She would be so much fun!
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2013, 10:22:00 PM »



Emma McQuiston and Ceawlin Thynn, Viscount Weymouth.

DM finally put a couple of pics up. Pretty bride. I don't know much about the family, so I don't recognise the tiara, if it's a family item.
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2013, 12:45:48 AM »

here's another one





and an interesting tid-bit - and that's so baaad:


These pictures show the marriage of Ceawlin Thynn, Viscount Weymouth, to the daughter of a Nigerian oil tycoon who will make history when she becomes the first black Marchioness in Britain.

The future Marquess of Bath yesterday married Emma McQuiston, who says she has been snubbed by the British elite because of her ethnicity and background.

The former Miss McQuiston, daughter of Nigerian oil tycoon Ladi Jadesimi, admits her relationship with the aristocrat has caused upset.

But the Marquess of Bath – famous for his string of ‘wifelets’ – and his real wife, Hungarian-born Anna Gael, 69, boycotted the ceremony, which took place at Longleat House yesterday afternoon. The groom's father the Marquess of Bath decided to attend another society wedding with his wife Anna Gael. They watched Heloise Lorentzen marry polo player Sean Wilson-Smith at the village of Wonston, Hampshire, instead.

A source told the Daily Express: 'It was an intimate ceremony. Longleat is considered one of the foremost and widely respected traditional British estates in the country.

'With the backdrop of the safari park, estate and house, it was quite special.

'Many people have celebrated that she will be the first black marchioness in the UK, which was widely praised as "about time too".'

Lord Bath has expressed great displeasure at his son’s renovation of the family seat at Longleat, which has involved removing a number of his prized erotic paintings, and said he would stay away from the wedding.

The 80-year-old Marquess – wearing mustard chinos and a green velvet jacket – instead went to a wedding in Hampshire yesterday morning, accompanied by his wife, Ceawlin's mother.





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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2013, 01:11:11 AM »

Wow, best wishes to them, some seriously disgusting baggage there.  Dead
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2013, 03:14:04 AM »

Yeah, it is some serious baggage. It is messed up that the father and mother did not attend. I am not even sure the siblings attended. I would be hurt if my mum, dad, and siblings were not present for my big day.

They make a lovely couple, and I hope they had a wonderful day and have a wonderful life together.
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2013, 04:28:14 AM »

This storyline would be better than Downton Abbey.
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2013, 07:51:03 PM »

I wonder what the son will do when the old man kicks the bucket

Hopefully kick out all the crazy "wifelets."


Good luck to him and his new wife...I hope they are able to get on with things away from his crazy parents...pretty nasty pair that wouldn't even go to their own son's wedding. All over some pornographic paintings....um...riiiiight.   Thinking   The mother apparently tried to get him to break things off so methinks it has nothing to do with the porno paintings!


So, has there been a black viscountess before? Why is the DM so obsessed with "first marchioness" but not first viscountess?


Sheesh, she's not a marchioness YET.  Her father-in-law has to die while she's still married to the heir (not that I'm saying they'll divorce).  She's still only a viscountess *by*courtesy*.

I am looking forward to photographs of this wedding (I love looking at wedding dresses).

What do you mean "by courtesy?" Isn't she now a viscountess by marriage, Viscountess Weymouth, same as Waity is a duchess by marriage, not by "courtesy?"
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2013, 08:02:07 PM »

She is a courtesy viscountess as he is a courtesy viscount.  Wikipedia has a good explanation:

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There is a detailed system of styles and courtesy titles in the United Kingdom, by which the eldest son, male-line grandson or great-grandson and heir of a peer may use a subsidiary title of his ancestor even though it is the ancestor who holds the title substantively. By United Kingdom law, users of courtesy titles have nonetheless been held to be commoners, eligible for election to the House of Commons rather than the House of Lords.

So for instance the Duke of Norfolk's heir is the Earl of Arundel - it is his father's title, but he uses it and if he marries his wife will be called Countess of Arundel.  But in the days when a peer sat in the House of Lords for instance, he would not sit in the House of Lords, but he could be elected to the House of Commons. Since it is only a courtesy title he is not a peer but a commoner.

George Percy (of Pippa fame) is Earl Percy, which again is one of his father's titles.  An earlier Earl Percy was a member of the House of Commons in the late 19th century.  Many heirs have served in Commons while using their courtesy titles, but when they inherited they had to leave Commons and move to Lords.
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2013, 08:12:14 PM »

She is a courtesy viscountess as he is a courtesy viscount.  Wikipedia has a good explanation:

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There is a detailed system of styles and courtesy titles in the United Kingdom, by which the eldest son, male-line grandson or great-grandson and heir of a peer may use a subsidiary title of his ancestor even though it is the ancestor who holds the title substantively. By United Kingdom law, users of courtesy titles have nonetheless been held to be commoners, eligible for election to the House of Commons rather than the House of Lords.

So for instance the Duke of Norfolk's heir is the Earl of Arundel - it is his father's title, but he uses it and if he marries his wife will be called Countess of Arundel.  But in the days when a peer sat in the House of Lords for instance, he would not sit in the House of Lords, but he could be elected to the House of Commons. Since it is only a courtesy title he is not a peer but a commoner.

George Percy (of Pippa fame) is Earl Percy, which again is one of his father's titles.  An earlier Earl Percy was a member of the House of Commons in the late 19th century.  Many heirs have served in Commons while using their courtesy titles, but when they inherited they had to leave Commons and move to Lords.


Ah, right, of course - the husband is the one with the courtesy title from the father, as one of his lessor titles. I had read it (from the way the OP had phrased it and put it in * *) as in the new wife is getting her title as some sort of "courtesy" and not a true title as now being the wife of a viscount.  Thanks!   Hug   Star
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2013, 10:53:55 PM »



Closer shot of the tiara. I like diamonds and the beading detail on her dress/sleeves.

I do wonder if he will kick out the wifelets, when his father passes on. I think the reason they skipped the wedding is deeper than paintings. IDK what it is, but that should not be enough reason to miss your kid's big day. I've seen her out and about in London. Most recently, last week in Waitrose. Let's hope they stay in London and away from Longleat.
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