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“And she will keep coming back to life, over and over again, because beneath the skin of this gentle human lives a warrior unstoppable.” - Annabelle M. Ramos
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I think it's normal for a couple to have quarrels at times and it doesn't mean their marriage is in trouble. Maybe Daniel's temper in private is just a bit rough since I remember one time he gave MM a middle finger when two couples were together (watching a game ?). After 20 years together, Vickie is probably used to his temper. Overall I think Daniels is a nice and kind person, a responsible husband and father.
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I think it's normal for a couple to have quarrels at times and it doesn't mean their marriage is in trouble. Maybe Daniel's temper in private is just a bit rough since I remember one time he gave MM a middle finger when two couples were together (watching a game ?). After 20 years together, Vickie is probably used to his temper. Overall I think Daniels is a nice and kind person, a responsible husband and father.
Sorry, but being a bit rough and having a temper is not what I would consider as nice and kind in a husband. I don't know what the truth is. All marriages have their up and down moments but I'm also very aware royalty has always presented the "perfect marriage" to the public even if it was the opposite of perfect and they hated each other's guts in private. I hope Vic is ok, I like her.
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I think it's normal for a couple to have quarrels at times and it doesn't mean their marriage is in trouble. Maybe Daniel's temper in private is just a bit rough since I remember one time he gave MM a middle finger when two couples were together (watching a game ?). After 20 years together, Vickie is probably used to his temper. Overall I think Daniels is a nice and kind person, a responsible husband and father.
Sorry, but being a bit rough and having a temper is not what I would consider as nice and kind in a husband.I don't know what the truth is. All marriages have their up and down moments but I'm also very aware royalty has always presented the "perfect marriage" to the public even if it was the opposite of perfect and they hated each other's guts in private. I hope Vic is ok, I like her. ITA with the bold.
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I reckon they are OK - Dan probably thinks that Vic should stand up to her father more and he also probably gets fed up of the old boy doting on CP. Vic will just accept things as they are and as they have always been and doesn't want to rock the boat. TBH I think Dan does v well - taken on the whole "consort to the crown princess" thing, puts up with CG, looks like a loving Dad and had a good example in his parents. It has been an exhausting year, maybe they all just don't like too much "self-isolation" all stuck together
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Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel of Sweden have contracted COVID-19 again. The future Queen, 44, tested positive for the virus on Saturday (Jan. 8 ), while the royal’s husband, 48, subsequently tested positive on Sunday (Jan. 9).
The Swedish Royal Court revealed that the Crown Princess “has cold symptoms but is otherwise well.” Meanwhile Daniel “has very mild symptoms.” The Prince is also said to be “well.” Princess Estelle and Prince Oscar’s parents are both fully vaccinated.
Victoria and her family began isolating at home following her positive test result. After Daniel tested positive, the royal court noted that “in accordance with current rules of conduct, the entire Crown Princess family is already in quarantine at home at Haga Castle.”
Victoria and Daniel tested positive for COVID-19 last March. News of the couple contracting the virus again comes days after the court announced that the Crown Princess’ parents, King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia, who are both fully vaccinated and boosted, tested positive for COVID-19.
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Stoppapressarna mentions this clip were some people think Daniel was rude. THE LINK: https://imgur.com/gallery/SlRyuhwTranslation: Oscar: Mama,mama mama Daniel says to Oscar- this maybe will air on tv when you are saying mama and singing. Estelle- starts saying papa papa papa Daniel says to Estelle- did you feel sorry for me? Estelle replies - yes Daniel replies- Dad is used being nr.2. Estelle replies- Stackare( like poor you) Look at Victoria’s body language in this clip. Daniel’s answers are bit strange and for me he comes off “ a bit jealous” in the clip. What do you others think?
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I woldn't read too much into it - kids play around like this and often "Mummy" is the most important - there is a young roumanian child living near me, dad is out with her all the time, playing games, going for walks, but when she fell over the other day there was the great wail of "mummmmmeeeeeeeeee" even though Dad was there.
Estelle might just be twigging that theirs is not you average family, Mum will be Queen and Estelle will be Crown Princess and Dan and Oscar won't be .
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I read through comments but didn't see confirmation that Vic and Dan are both vaccinated and boosted. Are they? And the kids, too.
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The papers stated that both Viktoria and Dan were vaccinated and boostered. However considering that both counted as "recovered" until end of August or September and probably received their jab then, I wonder if they already had a third booster shot.
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Stoppapressarna mentions this clip were some people think Daniel was rude. THE LINK: https://imgur.com/gallery/SlRyuhwTranslation: Oscar: Mama,mama mama Daniel says to Oscar- this maybe will air on tv when you are saying mama and singing. Estelle- starts saying papa papa papa Daniel says to Estelle- did you feel sorry for me? Estelle replies - yes Daniel replies- Dad is used being nr.2. Estelle replies- Stackare( like poor you) Look at Victoria’s body language in this clip.
Daniel’s answers are bit strange and for me he comes off “ a bit jealous” in the clip. What do you others think? Ohh my. I've seen the clip several times and her reaction is very telling. I usually don't take too much notice of photographs because they are taken in a split second and rarely show the reality of what's happening unless there is pattern that's usually confirmed by video footage. This clip though tells Victoria's reaction to Daniel's "dad is used to being no.2". Until that moment she had been smiling with Oscar, she then tenses up, her face hardens and breaks from the group looking seriously pissed off. Daniel's words could have appeared to be a joke he has having with the kids except for her reaction. It's the reaction that tells it's own story.
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She does look pissed off for sure.
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Stoppapressarna mentions this clip were some people think Daniel was rude. THE LINK: https://imgur.com/gallery/SlRyuhwTranslation: Oscar: Mama,mama mama Daniel says to Oscar- this maybe will air on tv when you are saying mama and singing. Estelle- starts saying papa papa papa Daniel says to Estelle- did you feel sorry for me? Estelle replies - yes Daniel replies- Dad is used being nr.2. Estelle replies- Stackare( like poor you) Look at Victoria’s body language in this clip.
Daniel’s answers are bit strange and for me he comes off “ a bit jealous” in the clip. What do you others think? Ohh my. I've seen the clip several times and her reaction is very telling. I usually don't take too much notice of photographs because they are taken in a split second and rarely show the reality of what's happening unless there is pattern that's usually confirmed by video footage. This clip though tells Victoria's reaction to Daniel's "dad is used to being no.2". Until that moment she had been smiling with Oscar, she then tenses up, her face hardens and breaks from the group looking seriously pissed off. Daniel's words could have appeared to be a joke he has having with the kids except for her reaction. It's the reaction that tells it's own story. Maybe I'm just naive because I love them as a couple, but it also really could just be a family thing and not to do with position - maybe Daniel has to be the tougher parent and the kids get away with more with Victoria, so that creates tension and him feeling like the second favorite or something. I don't know, it just seems like it's hard to make a judgement based on rumors and one video. My parents have been married almost 40 years and they still bicker, very rarely in public but it's happened.
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Stoppapressarna mentions this clip were some people think Daniel was rude. THE LINK: https://imgur.com/gallery/SlRyuhwTranslation: Oscar: Mama,mama mama Daniel says to Oscar- this maybe will air on tv when you are saying mama and singing. Estelle- starts saying papa papa papa Daniel says to Estelle- did you feel sorry for me? Estelle replies - yes Daniel replies- Dad is used being nr.2. Estelle replies- Stackare( like poor you) Look at Victoria’s body language in this clip.
Daniel’s answers are bit strange and for me he comes off “ a bit jealous” in the clip. What do you others think? Ohh my. I've seen the clip several times and her reaction is very telling. I usually don't take too much notice of photographs because they are taken in a split second and rarely show the reality of what's happening unless there is pattern that's usually confirmed by video footage. This clip though tells Victoria's reaction to Daniel's "dad is used to being no.2". Until that moment she had been smiling with Oscar, she then tenses up, her face hardens and breaks from the group looking seriously pissed off. Daniel's words could have appeared to be a joke he has having with the kids except for her reaction. It's the reaction that tells it's own story. Maybe I'm just naive because I love them as a couple, but it also really could just be a family thing and not to do with position - maybe Daniel has to be the tougher parent and the kids get away with more with Victoria, so that creates tension and him feeling like the second favorite or something. I don't know, it just seems like it's hard to make a judgement based on rumors and one video. My parents have been married almost 40 years and they still bicker, very rarely in public but it's happened. Yes, couples bicker and argue but her reaction has disturbed me. If it was a joke, and she interpreted it as such her response would have been to keep smiling and maybe making a joke herself. I see her reaction as Daniel making a pasive agressive dig at her while smiling. This is what disturbs me of the video.
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Stoppapressarna mentions this clip were some people think Daniel was rude. THE LINK: https://imgur.com/gallery/SlRyuhwTranslation: Oscar: Mama,mama mama Daniel says to Oscar- this maybe will air on tv when you are saying mama and singing. Estelle- starts saying papa papa papa Daniel says to Estelle- did you feel sorry for me? Estelle replies - yes Daniel replies- Dad is used being nr.2. Estelle replies- Stackare( like poor you) Look at Victoria’s body language in this clip.
Daniel’s answers are bit strange and for me he comes off “ a bit jealous” in the clip. What do you others think? Ohh my. I've seen the clip several times and her reaction is very telling. I usually don't take too much notice of photographs because they are taken in a split second and rarely show the reality of what's happening unless there is pattern that's usually confirmed by video footage. This clip though tells Victoria's reaction to Daniel's "dad is used to being no.2". Until that moment she had been smiling with Oscar, she then tenses up, her face hardens and breaks from the group looking seriously pissed off. Daniel's words could have appeared to be a joke he has having with the kids except for her reaction. It's the reaction that tells it's own story. Maybe I'm just naive because I love them as a couple, but it also really could just be a family thing and not to do with position - maybe Daniel has to be the tougher parent and the kids get away with more with Victoria, so that creates tension and him feeling like the second favorite or something. I don't know, it just seems like it's hard to make a judgement based on rumors and one video. My parents have been married almost 40 years and they still bicker, very rarely in public but it's happened. Yes, couples bicker and argue but her reaction has disturbed me. If it was a joke, and she interpreted it as such her response would have been to keep smiling and maybe making a joke herself. I see her reaction as Daniel making a pasive agressive dig at her while smiling. This is what disturbs me of the video. gosh I have not seen this before. vikky totally disengages, doesn't she? Passive aggressive, full on. he'd be a right pill to be with when he's like this. G 
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ANDREW DENTON: Yes. What did... When you first met, what did you see in each other? CROWN PRINCE FREDERIK: What did we see in each other? We saw... Well, it's a bit hard. It's a bit blurry, in a way, because it was just after the Olympics had started and it was one of those evenings where...
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