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« Reply #3285 on: January 12, 2022, 08:15:19 AM »

To me it looked like she had already looked away/been attracted by something to her right before the remark about being "number two" was made.
I don't think there were any "undercurrents".
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« Reply #3286 on: January 12, 2022, 08:21:04 AM »

Please show me a couple who sometimes won't argue or feel stressed out in their relationship, especially when you have young children, agening parents and s-i-l with doubtful past  Tongue
Stoppapresserna like to cause trouble and blow things out of proportion in order to sell their news with yet another "big scandal". They've done it for years. They continue doing so.
StPr used to write about "problems" in Madeleine and Chris marriage. If we believed all those rumors, Madeleine should have been long ago divorced, back in Sweden, her heart oh-so-broken....but I think we can safely say that they are still married, live in FL, looking content and happy.
Now its time for Victoria and Daniel to be the target of dirty gossip. But I think that the main problem is that editors of those gossip rags are the ones who are unhappy, unsatisfied with their lives, so they want to see trouble in every other relationship and they dislike seeing happy couples  Yes  Wink
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« Reply #3287 on: January 12, 2022, 09:03:07 AM »

Please show me a couple who sometimes won't argue or feel stressed out in their relationship, especially when you have young children, agening parents and s-i-l with doubtful past  Tongue
Stoppapresserna like to cause trouble and blow things out of proportion in order to sell their news with yet another "big scandal". They've done it for years. They continue doing so.
StPr used to write about "problems" in Madeleine and Chris marriage. If we believed all those rumors, Madeleine should have been long ago divorced, back in Sweden, her heart oh-so-broken....but I think we can safely say that they are still married, live in FL, looking content and happy.
Now its time for Victoria and Daniel to be the target of dirty gossip. But I think that the main problem is that editors of those gossip rags are the ones who are unhappy, unsatisfied with their lives, so they want to see trouble in every other relationship and they dislike seeing happy couples  Yes  Wink

Eve, it's not the press making up stories, it's a video of Vic's reaction to Daniels "dad is used to be number 2" to her children.  We can all come up with with justification stories but her reaction is clear to see.  It's not a photograph.  She stiffens up, disengages and looks seriously pissed off.

Whether this is something they can get past as a couple, I hope so.  But to minimise her obvious reaction is doing women few favours, royal or not.  Controlling partners happen in every walk of life including royalty and frankly after seeing this video I'm putting "Daniel's lovely husband" public image into the question mark category.  In my working life I've dealt with too many women who had 'great, lovely husbands" to the outside world while dealing with coercive controlling assholes in private.

As I've said before, her reaction tells a story.
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« Reply #3288 on: January 12, 2022, 09:26:46 AM »

Well he is not the first no. 2 who has issues with the situation. Prince Philip was not free of some frustration nor was Prince Henrik. I am sure it can get to a man after a while. However, it is not wise to comment in public, and understandable that Viktoria got upset. But does that make him a bad husband?
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« Reply #3289 on: January 12, 2022, 09:28:56 AM »

To me it looked like she had already looked away/been attracted by something to her right before the remark about being "number two" was made.
I don't think there were any "undercurrents".

That's also my interpretion. She was holding the dog and to me it seems like there was something which needed her attention, maybe another dog who was running free without owner/lash. This can be stressful for dog owners because you never know how well-behaved the other dog ist and if he may attack your own dog.
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« Reply #3290 on: January 12, 2022, 09:29:58 AM »

To me it looked like she had already looked away/been attracted by something to her right before the remark about being "number two" was made.
I don't think there were any "undercurrents".

That’s how I see it, too. And Oscar is taking the mickey out of Daniel and it works. Look how Oscar is shacking Daniel’s hand while chanting “mama” with all his might. I don’t see it as being anything worth mentioning.
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« Reply #3291 on: January 12, 2022, 02:09:43 PM »

I don’t see anything. The kids (Oscar) are being annoying. They’re being filmed and trying to keep it together without just telling Oscar to knock it off on camera. The dog stops to sniff/potty. That’s all I see.
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« Reply #3292 on: January 12, 2022, 03:25:00 PM »

Stoppapressarna mentions this clip were some people think Daniel was rude.

THE LINK: https://imgur.com/gallery/SlRyuhw

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Daniel also says to Oscar- a lot of focus on mommy before Oscar says mama mama.

Oscar: Mama,mama mama

Daniel says to Oscar- this maybe will air on tv when you are saying mama and singing.

Estelle- starts saying papa papa papa

Daniel says to Estelle- did you feel sorry for me?

Estelle replies - yes

Daniel replies- Dad is used being nr.2.

Estelle replies- Stackare( like poor you)

Look at Victoria’s body language in this clip.

Daniel’s answers are bit strange and for me he comes off “ a bit jealous” in the clip.

What do you others think?


Forgot to mention that also Daniel says when the clip starts” a lot of focus on mom” to Oscar.
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« Reply #3293 on: January 12, 2022, 04:00:18 PM »

Whether this is something they can get past as a couple, I hope so.  But to minimise her obvious reaction is doing women few favours, royal or not.  Controlling partners happen in every walk of life including royalty and frankly after seeing this video I'm putting "Daniel's lovely husband" public image into the question mark category.  In my working life I've dealt with too many women who had 'great, lovely husbands" to the outside world while dealing with coercive controlling assholes in private.

I'm trying to put my thoughts into words that make sense but I'm not sure I'm able to. The way he says 'do you feel sorry for me' almost seems like gaslighting. I'm not a big fan of that term since I feel like it's overused and usually improperly but just the way he said it made me feel like he was projecting issues on to Estelle. Perhaps I'm drawing the wrong conclusion. I've always liked Dan and Victoria but this video made me second guess.
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« Reply #3294 on: January 12, 2022, 10:18:43 PM »

I saw a guy who was being passive-aggressive towards his wife, and doing it in a sneaky but very public way.  Having a bit of a dig at her.  Her entire body language changed and she quickly removed herself because she was angry and upset, and has way too much class to verbally respond to him publicly.  JMO.
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« Reply #3295 on: January 12, 2022, 10:50:31 PM »

Well he is not the first no. 2 who has issues with the situation. Prince Philip was not free of some frustration nor was Prince Henrik. I am sure it can get to a man after a while. However, it is not wise to comment in public, and understandable that Viktoria got upset. But does that make him a bad husband?

Let's hear it for Patriachy  Beer

It's alive and well to this day, and thriving  Dead

why is it oh sooo stressful to be #2 for a man, but ok for a woman to be #2?

these men should just suck it up and enjoy it. women did as #2!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drGx7JkFSp4

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« Reply #3296 on: January 13, 2022, 12:56:23 AM »

THANK YOU!!!!

There is ZERO reason for it to “get to a man”. It’s 2022. We have got to move past that toxic attitude!
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« Reply #3297 on: January 13, 2022, 01:21:41 AM »

Monarchies are no more relevant today than the patriarchy Champagne

Seriously. There’s nothing fair or reasonable or democratic or equal about the HOS being born heir to that position. Everything about is deeply archaic. Very few royals - if anyone? - aren’t in the very nature of their existence supporting conservative values.

So yeah. It’s understandable that it can be a somewhat strange position to be in for a man, even if it’s sexist and old-fashioned. By all accounts Daniel was a successful self-made business man. He had to give that up and live always in an unequal position simply because of his sex. He won’t be King Daniel. Had Daniella married Victor, she had become Queen Daniella. It’s possible it bugs him from time to time. I actually think many men would be bothered by a non-equal relationship. It’s not a fantasy they are raised to strive for after all..
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« Reply #3298 on: January 13, 2022, 10:08:35 AM »

If the so called royals totally paid their own way then fine but as they take public money they are just civil servants..... the most expensive ones
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« Reply #3299 on: January 13, 2022, 05:34:38 PM »

Monarchies are no more relevant today than the patriarchy Champagne

Seriously. There’s nothing fair or reasonable or democratic or equal about the HOS being born heir to that position. Everything about is deeply archaic. Very few royals - if anyone? - aren’t in the very nature of their existence supporting conservative values.

What could be more equal than random chance?
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