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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2013, 10:45:07 AM »

Yes the borderline cases are interesting - like, for example, a firstborn with autism ....
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2013, 12:17:37 PM »

Yes the borderline cases are interesting - like, for example, a firstborn with autism ....
Blimey, Hester, can you imagine how hard it is to find any info an the net about anything mental about royal families!  Blink Every search with "autistic" gets converted into "artistic", so Marge comes up on a number of websites. Which I take to mean that Danes, and Marge herself in particular, think of her as an artistic person. Smiley

So, just wondering, did you have someone in particular in mind?  Thinking
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2013, 12:20:21 PM »

Yes the borderline cases are interesting - like, for example, a firstborn with autism ....
Blimey, Hester, can you imagine how hard it is to find any info an the net about anything mental about royal families!  Blink Every search with "autistic" gets converted into "artistic", so Marge comes up on a number of websites. Which I take to mean that Danes, and Marge herself in particular, think of her as an artistic person. Smiley

So, just wondering, did you have someone in particular in mind?  Thinking

Leesa,

I think Hester is referring to Christian of Denmark. Currently, second in line to the throne in Denmark.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2013, 12:24:47 PM »

Hi Paddy, that's what I thought, too, but felt that Fred would be a better candidate, as I think there's really something wrong with him. And I don't think it's Mary as such, but he's got something mental going on. He has had depression in the past, as has been reported, but he probably still has it. Plus a speech impediment of some sort, I think.
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2013, 12:30:02 PM »

Hi Paddy, that's what I thought, too, but felt that Fred would be a better candidate, as I think there's really something wrong with him. And I don't think it's Mary as such, but he's got something mental going on. He has had depression in the past, as has been reported, but he probably still has it. Plus a speech impediment of some sort, I think.

Queen Elizabeth's father Bertie, had a speech impediment and that didn't diminish his chances of becoming King.

 I agree, Fred got bigger problems that just a speech impediment and depression. These days, there is a lot of treatment for depression. Winston Churchill suffered from terrible depression, and that didn't stop him from being prime minister, and when he was around there was not a lot known about depression.

I think Fred has also got a problem of drug dependency.
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2013, 12:32:52 PM »

Do you know if there's any blood connection between the Danes and the Brits? I mean the royals.
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2013, 12:36:33 PM »

Oh Paddy, my ignorance is embarrassing. Sheesh!  Blush
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2013, 04:28:49 PM »

I'm sure if you go back far enough there's a connection between the Danes & Brits. During those years that royals were pretty much only marrying royals & marriage was not for love but to strengthen connections between countries. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 05:09:33 PM »

prince Claus, the deceased husband of princess Beatrix, suffered from depression and parkinson. It is not know if his condition  were hereditary.

In case of disabled heirs the first one who pops up in my mind is infante Carlos of Spain, later king Carlos II and the last Habsburg ruler of Spain. By the time of Carlos's birth there were many generation of inbreeding within the Spanish royal house, to which is attributed his physical and mental disabilities.
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2013, 07:35:35 PM »

I'm sure if you go back far enough there's a connection between the Danes & Brits. During those years that royals were pretty much only marrying royals & marriage was not for love but to strengthen connections between countries. 


Danish-British connection includes Edward VII & Queen Alexandra. Alexandra was the eldest daughter of Christian IX aka "the father-in-law of Europe." If you have a chance try and find if "A Royal Family" is online for viewing.  That will show the Danish-European royals connections and where the descendents are today. Good interviews with Marge, Joachim and a mumbling Fred. Also the Greeks, Belgians, Spanish, Norwegian, Luxembourgers, Russians, Serbians, British, and German members of royal families are featured. It's a 6 part series.
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2013, 07:41:00 PM »

Yes the borderline cases are interesting - like, for example, a firstborn with autism ....
Blimey, Hester, can you imagine how hard it is to find any info an the net about anything mental about royal families!  Blink Every search with "autistic" gets converted into "artistic", so Marge comes up on a number of websites. Which I take to mean that Danes, and Marge herself in particular, think of her as an artistic person. Smiley

So, just wondering, did you have someone in particular in mind?  Thinking
In the documentary " A Royal Family" Queen Anne of Greece discusses her father King Frederik. His shyness, ability to memorize ALL of the timetables for the trains make me wonder about him. There has been much speculation from those of us with children on the Spectrum or who work in education that Christian has displayed some autistic like traits in the past. IMHO this may have been a consideration when his parents opted for state schools instead of Krebs. Based upon what Maria shared Danish school children remain in the same class and move together through the grades thus providing a supportive group of classmates.  I'm guessing that he's on the mild end of the spectrum and has been receiving services from pre-school-forward. If Christian has been been receiving services early on then IMVHO he will be better prepared for his future role in life.  Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2013, 08:25:03 PM »

What does Christian have exactly? Sorry I don't follow Danish royals closely.
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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2013, 08:28:55 PM »

Christian has two incompetent parents. Aside from that, I think he's just fine  Icecream
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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2013, 09:33:53 PM »

Autism is more or less an umbrella under which a lot of conditions fit. As of 2013 the new ASD (autism spectrum disorders) encompass disorders such as Aspergers, Retts, childhood disintegrative disorder, pervasive developmental disorder-not otherwise specified and austitic disorder.
Symptoms range from mild to severe, so it is quite difficult to coach diagnose a person.
However some "experts" estimate the numbers of unknown and unidentified cases to be immense ( some say 1 in about a 100 persons) and Xian did show some rather peculiar behaviour that had I witnessed it in a child at school or the play ground would have had my alarm bells ringing.
A lot of the mild cases never get diagnosed nor treated, so if ManFred have actually realized that there was something off and are willing to get him help, then honestly kudos to them. A lot of parents are just in denial.
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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2013, 10:04:23 PM »

Christian has two incompetent parents. Aside from that, I think he's just fine  Icecream

That's what I think too. Also I wouldn't wish on any child to grow up in the fishbowl, he grows up in - with the titel he does. Nerves
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