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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2013, 10:41:02 PM »

Christian has two incompetent parents. Aside from that, I think he's just fine  Icecream

That's what I think too. Also I wouldn't wish on any child to grow up in the fishbowl, he grows up in - with the titel he does. Nerves
If this is the case then I find the discussion or anyone indicating or accusing a child having any sort of metal disability or learning problem very inappropriate and not at all nice even if that child is a future king of any country. This is a royal forum but indicating any child having metal disability  is very inappropriate and insensitive IMO and it's a discussing I won't participate in. I thought he had autism or something and I really apologise for that.
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« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2013, 10:56:05 PM »

Autism is more or less an umbrella under which a lot of conditions fit. As of 2013 the new ASD (autism spectrum disorders) encompass disorders such as Aspergers, Retts, childhood disintegrative disorder, pervasive developmental disorder-not otherwise specified and austitic disorder.
Symptoms range from mild to severe, so it is quite difficult to coach diagnose a person.
However some "experts" estimate the numbers of unknown and unidentified cases to be immense ( some say 1 in about a 100 persons) and Xian did show some rather peculiar behaviour that had I witnessed it in a child at school or the play ground would have had my alarm bells ringing.
A lot of the mild cases never get diagnosed nor treated, so if ManFred have actually realized that there was something off and are willing to get him help, then honestly kudos to them. A lot of parents are just in denial.
Excellent summary fairy!  Star
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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2013, 09:08:57 PM »

I'm sure if you go back far enough there's a connection between the Danes & Brits. During those years that royals were pretty much only marrying royals & marriage was not for love but to strengthen connections between countries. 

Queen Alexandra of Great Britain was born a Danish princess. Marge's great-grandfather Frederick VIII, was Alexandra's older brother.

Marge is also related on her mother, Queen Ingrid's side. Ingrid was born a Princess of Sweden, and her mother was Princess Margrat of Connaught. Margrat's father was Arthur, the third son of Queen Victoria.
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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2013, 09:20:26 PM »

I'm sure if you go back far enough there's a connection between the Danes & Brits. During those years that royals were pretty much only marrying royals & marriage was not for love but to strengthen connections between countries. 

Queen Alexandra of Great Britain was born a Danish princess. Marge's great-grandfather Frederick VIII, was Alexandra's older brother.

Marge is also related on her mother, Queen Ingrid's side. Ingrid was born a Princess of Sweden, and her mother was Princess Margrat of Connaught. Margrat's father was Arthur, the third son of Queen Victoria.
Just remembered that Alexandra was deaf so she fits into the category of a disabled royal even though she would never be a reigning monarch herself.
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2013, 10:45:44 AM »

When looking for other pictures I have noticed several pictures of Christian crying (or having a sort of tantrum):





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« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2013, 11:11:11 AM »

Do you know if there's any blood connection between the Danes and the Brits? I mean the royals.

Yes one of Victoria's daughters married into the DRF.

btw Leesa if you do that search with -artistic, it narrows the results ......  Hug
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2013, 11:12:57 AM »

Children have tantrums - whether they are disabled or super healthy.
I have seen Christian behaving very nicely, particularly as he gets older.  Thumb up

Then again, disabled people can behave very politely and cause no fuss what so ever.
It's hard to ascertain any mild Autism type of disorder in a child via photographs.
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2013, 11:36:15 AM »

Children have tantrums - whether they are disabled or super healthy.
I have seen Christian behaving very nicely, particularly as he gets older.  Thumb up

Then again, disabled people can behave very politely and cause no fuss what so ever.
It's hard to ascertain any mild Autism type of disorder in a child via photographs.

You are correct every child has his or her tantrum once in a while.
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2013, 05:09:09 PM »

Children have tantrums - whether they are disabled or super healthy.
I have seen Christian behaving very nicely, particularly as he gets older.  Thumb up

Then again, disabled people can behave very politely and cause no fuss what so ever.
It's hard to ascertain any mild Autism type of disorder in a child via photographs.

You are correct every child has his or her tantrum once in a while.
He looks rather overwhelmed in those pictures. Poor tyke.
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2013, 07:15:21 PM »

Do you know if there's any blood connection between the Danes and the Brits? I mean the royals.

Yes one of Victoria's daughters married into the DRF.

btw Leesa if you do that search with -artistic, it narrows the results ......  Hug

Marge's only link by blood to Victoria is through her mother Ingrid (or closest Thinking). Ingrid was the granddaughter of Arthur, Victoria's third son (her mother was Princess Margrat of Connaught, later crown princess of Sweden).

Helena married Prince Christian, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Augustenburg. Christian came from one of the oldest noble families in Denmark, but not royal. His paternal grandmother was Princess Louise of Denmark, acknowledged daughter of Christian VII, but known to be the daughter of his wife Caroline Mathilda (granddaughter of George II and sister of George III of GB) by an affair.  His great Uncle, Louise's brother came to the throne, but he had no male heirs, and it was their Uncle Frederick (Christian VII's younger brother) who the modern DRF descends from.

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« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2013, 11:23:43 PM »

Two other connections between the British Royal Family and the Danes:

Christian IX of Denmark's eldest daughter Alexandra married The Prince of Wales and became Queen Alexandra and is the great-grandmother of Elizabeth II

Christian IX's second son became George I of the Hellenes and is the grandfather of Prince Philip.

That means that there is common ancestry in both Queen Victoria and Christian IX (and Christian was even on the list of potential husbands for Victoria) but ended up the father of The Queen of the UK, The King of the Hellenes, The Empress of Russia - and eventually the grandfather of The King of Norway and the last Emperor of Russia.

Elizabeth and Margrethe are related through a number of lines and add in Philip and Charles has even more lines of relationship to Frederick.

There is an even further back connection with the daughter of George II marrying the King of Denmark and all of the above are descendents of that marriage.
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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2013, 12:03:00 AM »

Christian has two incompetent parents. Aside from that, I think he's just fine  Icecream

That's what I think too. Also I wouldn't wish on any child to grow up in the fishbowl, he grows up in - with the titel he does. Nerves
If this is the case then I find the discussion or anyone indicating or accusing a child having any sort of metal disability or learning problem very inappropriate and not at all nice even if that child is a future king of any country. This is a royal forum but indicating any child having metal disability  is very inappropriate and insensitive IMO and it's a discussing I won't participate in. I thought he had autism or something and I really apologise for that.




No one is " accusing a child" what a strange way in putting your words together!  Thumb down
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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2013, 01:45:01 AM »

 Huh? You lost me there, zinzen!  Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2013, 01:51:32 AM »

Christian has two incompetent parents. Aside from that, I think he's just fine  Icecream

That's what I think too. Also I wouldn't wish on any child to grow up in the fishbowl, he grows up in - with the titel he does. Nerves
If this is the case then I find the discussion or anyone indicating or accusing a child having any sort of metal disability or learning problem very inappropriate and not at all nice even if that child is a future king of any country. This is a royal forum but indicating any child having metal disability  is very inappropriate and insensitive IMO and it's a discussing I won't participate in. I thought he had autism or something and I really apologise for that.




No one is " accusing a child" what a strange way in putting your words together!  Thumb down

If no once is accusing a child then why Christian name was mentioned in the previous page when there are no indication that he have any sort of mental disability or learning problem? I thought it was a general thread but then Christian mane came up and I asked what was wrong with him. People who follow Danish royal family closely said nothing, so I was confused on what basis his name was mentioned on this thread. Maybe you can help me understand?
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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2013, 02:29:54 AM »

JustMe, I understand that zinzen reacted to that particular wording in your post, not the post as such. - I believe it was just someone's opinion that Xian may be autistic, and we don't have to provide any proof for any opinion. We are allowed to discuss royal children on the board as much as royal adults. Hence the opinions are OK. - I do agree with you, however, that children are a bit of an iffy subject. Tricky, really.

I believe Fred is suffering from a bad case of depression, be it clinical or bipolar, or whatever else. And he also has a problem with his speech.

Whilst I understand where you are coming from, nothing can be done, as far as I understand. But a  Star to you for your concern!  Smiley
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