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« Reply #1620 on: February 06, 2020, 10:44:05 PM »

I always thought Max and WA probably wouldn't have been together if WA was a common, regular Dutch bloke (no millionaire or such). But when seeing them out and about they are coming across as being happy with each other. Off course we can't see what happens behind closed doors.

First time I Saw them together on the cover of a magazine was back in 2000. It was early days for them as a couple, I happened to be in Buenos Aires and hadn't heard of her before that. I was not super impressed, and actually didn't buy the story that she didn't know who he was as she met him. Her hair was darker then. I didn't really think it would last.

But as years went by I started believing their relationship was sincere and they seem genuinely happy together.  I also came to appreciate her smiley way, and I believe it is sincere. As a Latin American myself, we are used to smiling a lot more, it is in a way expected from us (culturally) even when all is not great. I realise that sometimes it  may be  seen as insincere or extreme in Europe, where people in general (specially rich and royals) are more composed. But I believe it to be honest.

 I sometimes wish it was a bit less (as very well put by Kristallinchen) is when I see footage of videos of her with the family and her need to always appear (even) more.  Speaking over Will's answers, or the girls. I don't think that would be necessary. There's enough love and attention for all. In these moments I wish she would step back a bit, and keep a bit more to self.

I love the fact she is clearly intelligent, well prepared, interested and has a lot to offer in the roll besides being pretty and charming (and she's both too!). I'm glad Willem chose her.


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Max certainly means well, but sometimes wanting to do good and actually doing it are two different things.

With regards to her daughters she should understand that she is only the supporter of her husband and most likely later of Amalia. Hopefully, WA should abdicate once she doesn't turn into a second Queen Sofia.

Although I know that she loves her children and won't jump forward to hurt them.

And yes it's true that she does what she does with great empathy and you can always tell that she really means it.
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« Reply #1621 on: February 06, 2020, 10:46:11 PM »

I have written before that a friend of mine had the pleasure to give WA a job training for three days. As he (the friend) was a young professional he had no idea that the Netherlands even had a monarch, leave alone that he was training the future monarch. All he was suprised about that WA turned up with an adjudant, but his boss told him that was alright and not to investigate.

I think that the fact that WA managed to act completely normal in a professional world shows that he had nothing entitled or regal about him.
My friend was totally mortified when he was told after WA had left who he was, because they had slagged him about his name and he had laughed at their jokes and was totally easy-going. He needed to have a wife like Max IMO, even though she is a bit pushy.

With a more subdued wife he would have ended up like Phil of Belgium. Nice and dutyful, but a bit boring.

Wasn't WA known as Prince Pilsje in his youth? Guess he had much fun in his youth (not that this is generally a bad thing).
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« Reply #1622 on: February 07, 2020, 10:01:41 AM »

I have written before that a friend of mine had the pleasure to give WA a job training for three days. As he (the friend) was a young professional he had no idea that the Netherlands even had a monarch, leave alone that he was training the future monarch. All he was suprised about that WA turned up with an adjudant, but his boss told him that was alright and not to investigate.

I think that the fact that WA managed to act completely normal in a professional world shows that he had nothing entitled or regal about him.
My friend was totally mortified when he was told after WA had left who he was, because they had slagged him about his name and he had laughed at their jokes and was totally easy-going. He needed to have a wife like Max IMO, even though she is a bit pushy.

With a more subdued wife he would have ended up like Phil of Belgium. Nice and dutyful, but a bit boring.

Wasn't WA known as Prince Pilsje in his youth? Guess he had much fun in his youth (not that this is generally a bad thing).

I believe it was in his student years: 'Prins Pils'


"....In his student days he was nicknamed 'Prince Pils' by the Dutch media, because of the enthusiasm with which he plunged into student life......"

Source The Dutch Wiki about WA


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At the Winter Olympics a couple of years back in Russia. Putin visiting the so called Holland Heineken House and takes a bear (pils) with WA and Max.




(Heineken => Heineken N.V.  is a Dutch brewing company, founded in 1864 by Gerard Adriaan Heineken in Amsterdam. As of 2017, Heineken owns over 165 breweries in more than 70 countries. It produces 250 international, regional, local and speciality beers and ciders and employs approximately 73,000 people. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heineken_N.V.)


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« Reply #1623 on: February 07, 2020, 06:23:53 PM »

I’ve always thought Max was the light side of being an exuberant royal personality, with Sarah Ferguson the dark side. Both women are OTT outgoing extroverts, who love the limelight but with Fergie she lost her way and became clownish and tragic (whole still craving the attention).

I like how Max includes Bea things like the family trip one Christmas to Argentina.
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« Reply #1624 on: February 07, 2020, 06:26:24 PM »

I’ve always thought Max was the light side of being an exuberant royal personality, with Sarah Ferguson the dark side. Both women are OTT outgoing extroverts, who love the limelight but with Fergie she lost her way and became clownish and tragic (whole still craving the attention).

I like how Max includes Bea things like the family trip one Christmas to Argentina.


Max and Bea seems to have a pretty good understanding. The same with Bee's other DILs I think that in the past Beatrix was expected to be a kind of bad mother in law
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« Reply #1625 on: February 07, 2020, 08:15:00 PM »

For several years now there is a parody about Willem-Alexander, called Willy. Family members such as Beatrix and Maxima are also part of the show. Willy is sounding like a sort of low level city bloke, Beatrix has an affacted voice and Maxima is also speaking a bit low level, with a peculiar accent.

These clips are made by Luckytv, which were shown in Dutch tv show "De wereld draait door" (The world turns around)


Some compilations of the clips:
https://www.youtube.com/w...MM74ANxAkWIplrxYjPVU5ZcL6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewUusDrMC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUxAqt4xqrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_LlRsGs7y0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nnbukT2C0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxHYnz0y0D4



Some others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ungfw7VN4QY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTL4PpCmB2Y



Luckytv: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuckyTV

BTW the creative mind of Luckytv is international known for his parody of the debate of Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump, singing I've had the time of my life. See link below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Wde1fFvPg

Short interview (in Dutch) of the creative mind about his "Willy" clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZO4FnfAXak

Luckytv youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c.../UCxEyesAXNzQySjb8nENZhGQ
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« Reply #1626 on: February 18, 2020, 06:46:19 PM »

W-A and Maxima at the Netherlands Indonesia seminar today ahead of their visit in March

https://www.gettyimages.c...editorial&sort=newest

Its a nice dress and even the hat isn’t too awful(unless you’re veggie or vegan maybe) it looks like pheasant feathers?
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« Reply #1627 on: February 18, 2020, 07:26:58 PM »

W-A and Maxima at the Netherlands Indonesia seminar today ahead of their visit in March

https://www.gettyimages.c...editorial&sort=newest

Its a nice dress and even the hat isn’t too awful(unless you’re veggie or vegan maybe) it looks like pheasant feathers?

Did Max decided to reuse the feathers of this hat:

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« Reply #1628 on: February 18, 2020, 09:53:36 PM »

W-A and Maxima at the Netherlands Indonesia seminar today ahead of their visit in March

https://www.gettyimages.c...editorial&sort=newest

Its a nice dress and even the hat isn’t too awful(unless you’re veggie or vegan maybe) it looks like pheasant feathers?

Did Max decided to reuse the feathers of this hat:



It certainly looks like it. Good for her though obviously no one beats Princess Anne as yet with rewearing/repurposing clothes
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« Reply #1629 on: February 18, 2020, 11:02:24 PM »

pheasant feathers indeed but a different colour, so probably a new 'hat'. The designers hasn't been identified yet.
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« Reply #1630 on: February 24, 2020, 08:43:40 AM »

https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/...en-van-excuses-staan.html

"State visit to Indonesia must be dominated by excuses"

Will the state visit of King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima to Indonesia, in two weeks, be more than just trade? Will there be excuses for Dutch wrongdoing during the police actions shortly after the Second World War? Young historians wonder.

In the wake of the king, five ministers and a large trade delegation from around 130 companies travel along. "If it is only about trade there, I think: how can we get away with this history of 350 years of oppression? That has settled in our DNA and we really have to do something with it as a country."

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This is the story of historian Lara Nuberg, writer of the blog http://Gewooneenindischmeisje.nl. She was invited by the king to prepare for the state visit. "I said that I hope that attention will also be paid to the past: that a lot of accounts are open. Both financially and morally. Not only in Indonesia but also here, for example, with the Dutch Indians."

During her meeting with the king, Nuberg got the idea that he was open to the colonial story. "Someone said," Take an example to Germany about how they dealt with their black pages. "The king said he understood that very much and had received it from his father."

Historian Anne-Lot Hoek spoke for years with veterans and relatives and is awarded a PhD for research into Dutch actions in Bali. She finds it a missed opportunity that the king will go to Indonesia in March and not in August when Indonesia celebrates 75 years of independence.

"Now and again it is said: we have to look to the future. But looking into the future also means: celebrating your freedom together. That could have been done on 17 August. Instead they try to avoid the sensitivities," says Hoek.

It is the first state visit to the former Dutch colony since that of Queen Beatrix in 1995. King Willem-Alexander, then still a prince, was there too. It became a charged state visit. Beatrix spoke about sensitivities with regard to the colonial past, but did not apologize on behalf of the Netherlands.

That former minister Ben Bot said this weekend that Indonesians do not want any 'apology' for Dutch wrongdoing, Nuberg finds incomprehensible. "How can he know that? And does he just skim all 270 million Indonesians? If Indonesians would have said that, then I think: maybe that is because they will never say that directly in your face. They are going to don't beg for it. "

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Nuberg hopes for sufficient political will to make excuses. "We know the history of the persecution of the Jews very well, and rightly so, more than rightly. But people know very little about our history. From that incomplete picture apologies seem less necessary."

Hoek also lacks the Indonesian view in the Netherlands. "How they experienced that period. And in which context do you place those police actions? We look at the legal side of that, while we don't look at what that period was for the Indonesians."

According to Hoek, apologies should have been made a long time ago. "That is a first step towards making friendship. Even though people do not ask for apologies, that does not mean that they are not concerned with the past. I spoke to a man whose father was tortured by the Dutch and who did not survive. There he not only experienced psychological problems but also problems because he grew up with his mother without a breadwinner. It is also about those stories. "


Hoek: "In the end it is also about the question: what has the whole system looked like. How could it have been this way? And what can we learn from it?"
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« Reply #1631 on: March 09, 2020, 05:23:11 PM »

King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima of The Netherlands arrived at the Jakarta airport for the 4-day state visit to Indonesia. King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima are currently making a State Visit to the Republic of Indonesia at the invitation of President Joko Widodo. The King and Queen will visit Jakarta and Yogjakarta on the island of Java as well as the islands of Kalimantan and Sumatra.



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« Reply #1632 on: March 09, 2020, 05:27:37 PM »

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« Reply #1633 on: March 09, 2020, 06:00:29 PM »

Aaaah a recycled dress
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« Reply #1634 on: March 09, 2020, 08:11:58 PM »

I can’t decide if I like this dress or not. Always seems the wrong dress for the occasion and looks like she’ll be jumping in a taxi afterwards and going dancing.

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