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« Reply #3210 on: August 09, 2018, 04:20:54 PM »

Isn't Palm Beach known for not having papparazzi? I read an article about the town 15 years ago and one of the things that the residents liked was that the police was so quick to run numberplates and ask what people were doing there and if they had no good answer they would be escorted off the island. Don't know if it's true, but there are few pap shots from the place, as far as I know.

No. That is not accurate at all. Not only would that type of behavior open the Police Department up to a massive lawsuit, paps arenít that huge of deal outside of LA/NYC/Miami.

Madeline doesnít have anything to worry about because 1. most people in the states donít have any clue who she is, 2. only people who get hounded by paps outside of the aforementioned cities are those that call them on the purpose.

Now if she wants to live in a gated community, more power to her. It would probably give her more peace of mind safety wise.
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« Reply #3211 on: August 09, 2018, 07:34:46 PM »

Isn't Palm Beach known for not having papparazzi? I read an article about the town 15 years ago and one of the things that the residents liked was that the police was so quick to run numberplates and ask what people were doing there and if they had no good answer they would be escorted off the island. Don't know if it's true, but there are few pap shots from the place, as far as I know.

No. That is not accurate at all. Not only would that type of behavior open the Police Department up to a massive lawsuit, paps arenít that huge of deal outside of LA/NYC/Miami.

Madeline doesnít have anything to worry about because 1. most people in the states donít have any clue who she is, 2. only people who get hounded by paps outside of the aforementioned cities are those that call them on the purpose.

Now if she wants to live in a gated community, more power to her. It would probably give her more peace of mind safety wise.


I thought it sounded strange. OTOH, there seems to be special laws - or the way they are reinforced - for the mega wealthy in the USA, so I wouldn't have been surprised if it had turned out to be true.
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« Reply #3212 on: August 09, 2018, 08:17:21 PM »

Isn't Palm Beach known for not having papparazzi? I read an article about the town 15 years ago and one of the things that the residents liked was that the police was so quick to run numberplates and ask what people were doing there and if they had no good answer they would be escorted off the island. Don't know if it's true, but there are few pap shots from the place, as far as I know.

No. That is not accurate at all. Not only would that type of behavior open the Police Department up to a massive lawsuit, paps arenít that huge of deal outside of LA/NYC/Miami.

Madeline doesnít have anything to worry about because 1. most people in the states donít have any clue who she is, 2. only people who get hounded by paps outside of the aforementioned cities are those that call them on the purpose.

Now if she wants to live in a gated community, more power to her. It would probably give her more peace of mind safety wise.


I thought it sounded strange. OTOH, there seems to be special laws - or the way they are reinforced - for the mega wealthy in the USA, so I wouldn't have been surprised if it had turned out to be true.

No. They have the same laws as everyone else, they just have better lawyers than majority of the population.

Police Enforcing ďSpecial LawsĒ because a car looks suspicious falls under Stop and Frisk, and the only US municipality that does that is NYC if Iím not mistaken ... and itís caused more harm than good.

No, Palm Beach is just laid back because itís mostly old money sugar, prohibition, and Cuba. They arenít as ostentatious and flashy as their sister Miami or as low budget as Daytona. Madeline and Chris will blend right in.
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« Reply #3213 on: August 10, 2018, 10:01:54 AM »

I really wonder how much of a problem the paparazzi are for the average royal?
Sure their own country is fairly interested and then there are some royalty magazines in other countries that feature them as well (Germany is big on royals) but other than that? How much is the average US citizen interested in Euro-royals outside the BRF (and then only the current 8 headhonchos)?
I honestly wonder if Madeleine's life in the US (apart from perhaps Minnesota) would be troubled by people recognizing her and stopping her like she was either Justin Bieber in a all girls high school or Diana?
I think there is a reason we so very often hear nothing of them for weeks on end: they can slip under the radar. It is just so unfashionable to admit that.
But we know that even the most photographed woman in the world, the one that people would certainly recognize almost everywhere, the Queen has made private visits to Kentucky (horsecountry!!) to Germany (visiting hub's relatives) and whatnot. We know that because after so many years there have been reports of that, but never pictures and never at the very time of the visit. Nobody talked and nobody reported.
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« Reply #3214 on: August 10, 2018, 01:09:18 PM »

Maddie is of interest because she is "camera gold" she is beautiful and generally dressed well and has a "good aura". Her husband is not interested in all the SRF shit, did not accept a title, and shows up on the minimal occasions required and IMO does not offend. The children will know Swedish but English is likely to be the language they hear most.  As they are never going to have a role in Sweden in the future then they are better off to have opportunities elsewhere. Maybe once Vic is Queen things might change - Daddy Dearest is not an "equal opportunity parent" - his son had his birthright "stolen" and his daughters were never in the same league in his opinion. So the son and slapper get all the "attention".  Go figure !  Tongue
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« Reply #3215 on: August 10, 2018, 03:20:08 PM »

Maddie is of interest because she is "camera gold" she is beautiful and generally dressed well and has a "good aura". Her husband is not interested in all the SRF shit, did not accept a title, and shows up on the minimal occasions required and IMO does not offend. The children will know Swedish but English is likely to be the language they hear most.  As they are never going to have a role in Sweden in the future then they are better off to have opportunities elsewhere. Maybe once Vic is Queen things might change - Daddy Dearest is not an "equal opportunity parent" - his son had his birthright "stolen" and his daughters were never in the same league in his opinion. So the son and slapper get all the "attention".  Go figure !  Tongue

I bet he makes Vic promise to ďtake careĒ of greasy et famille. And I bet she does it.

Madeline who?
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« Reply #3216 on: August 10, 2018, 03:22:29 PM »

I really wonder how much of a problem the paparazzi are for the average royal?
Sure their own country is fairly interested and then there are some royalty magazines in other countries that feature them as well (Germany is big on royals) but other than that? How much is the average US citizen interested in Euro-royals outside the BRF (and then only the current 8 headhonchos)?
I honestly wonder if Madeleine's life in the US (apart from perhaps Minnesota) would be troubled by people recognizing her and stopping her like she was either Justin Bieber in a all girls high school or Diana?
I think there is a reason we so very often hear nothing of them for weeks on end: they can slip under the radar. It is just so unfashionable to admit that.
But we know that even the most photographed woman in the world, the one that people would certainly recognize almost everywhere, the Queen has made private visits to Kentucky (horsecountry!!) to Germany (visiting hub's relatives) and whatnot. We know that because after so many years there have been reports of that, but never pictures and never at the very time of the visit. Nobody talked and nobody reported.


Most magazines in the world are not interested in the SRF (most Swedes aren't - even if the OīNeills are in Sweden there are almost no pictures of them: people just don't care) so I doubt this is the reason.
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« Reply #3217 on: August 10, 2018, 03:30:14 PM »

Maddie is of interest because she is "camera gold" she is beautiful and generally dressed well and has a "good aura". Her husband is not interested in all the SRF shit, did not accept a title, and shows up on the minimal occasions required and IMO does not offend. The children will know Swedish but English is likely to be the language they hear most.  As they are never going to have a role in Sweden in the future then they are better off to have opportunities elsewhere. Maybe once Vic is Queen things might change - Daddy Dearest is not an "equal opportunity parent" - his son had his birthright "stolen" and his daughters were never in the same league in his opinion. So the son and slapper get all the "attention".  Go figure !  Tongue

That's not exactly true; Swedish is actually the language spoken at home between Madeleine and the children and Chris has said he tries to follow along.  Madeleine and Christopher speak English among themselves and occasionally German if they do not wish for others to understand what they are talking about.  While I have no doubt that the children will also be fluent in English, Madeleine has said it is extremely important to her that all of the children be able to speak fluent Swedish.

As for CP, I don't think Vic will cut him off once she is Queen.  I believe CP and Sofia will continue to have the roles they have currently until Estelle and Oscar come of age.  Once they are old enough to represent Vic, I think CP and Sof will do a slow fade out to the background; much like Princess Christina.  Neither Alex nor Gabe will ever have official duties with the SRF and I do hope they are raising their children accordingly.  At some point Vic's line will become the dominant line in practice and in media coverage but there will always be a flow of financial support to CP should he need it.  I think it's an accepted fact that he doesn't bring much to the world around him so in order to keep him and his family fed and housed - he's going to need a bit of help.
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« Reply #3218 on: August 10, 2018, 03:31:30 PM »

Most magazines in the world are not interested in the SRF (most Swedes aren't - even if the OīNeills are in Sweden there are almost no pictures of them: people just don't care) so I doubt this is the reason.

The Swedish press is always gunning for them - just about all stories are with a negative slant. Paps have also taken photos of them in London fairly often so I think that could part of the reason. They are now further away from Sweden with fewer people knowing who they are and fewer people likely able and interested in giving stories and info to the Swedish press.
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« Reply #3219 on: August 10, 2018, 03:34:00 PM »

As for CP, I don't think Vic will cut him off once she is Queen.  I believe CP and Sofia will continue to have the roles they have currently until Estelle and Oscar come of age.  Once they are old enough to represent Vic, I think CP and Sof will do a slow fade out to the background; much like Princess Christina.  Neither Alex nor Gabe will ever have official duties with the SRF and I do hope they are raising their children accordingly.  At some point Vic's line will become the dominant line in practice and in media coverage but there will always be a flow of financial support to CP should he need it.  I think it's an accepted fact that he doesn't bring much to the world around him so in order to keep him and his family fed and housed - he's going to need a bit of help.

I find it so annoying that it's simply accepted that CP does very little and still gets money and praise for essentially just existing whilst Madeleine is preparing for a future like her aunties and get nothing but shit for it Beer
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« Reply #3220 on: August 10, 2018, 03:36:15 PM »

As for CP, I don't think Vic will cut him off once she is Queen.  I believe CP and Sofia will continue to have the roles they have currently until Estelle and Oscar come of age.  Once they are old enough to represent Vic, I think CP and Sof will do a slow fade out to the background; much like Princess Christina.  Neither Alex nor Gabe will ever have official duties with the SRF and I do hope they are raising their children accordingly.  At some point Vic's line will become the dominant line in practice and in media coverage but there will always be a flow of financial support to CP should he need it.  I think it's an accepted fact that he doesn't bring much to the world around him so in order to keep him and his family fed and housed - he's going to need a bit of help.

I find it so annoying that it's simply accepted that CP does very little and still gets money and praise for essentially just existing whilst Madeleine is preparing for a future like her aunties and get nothing but shit for it Beer

I know, right?  Sexism and favoritism at its finest.   Dead
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« Reply #3221 on: August 10, 2018, 03:37:04 PM »

If they are living in an English speaking country then outside of their home and when mixing with others that is likely how they will communicate or understand how others do - this is not to say they are not multi lingual
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« Reply #3222 on: August 10, 2018, 03:40:58 PM »

If they are living in an English speaking country then outside of their home and when mixing with others that is likely how they will communicate or understand how others do - this is not to say they are not multi lingual

They will no doubt speak both Swedish and English. Just as many other children of parents from different language backgrounds do. Frederik and Joachim speak French equally to Danish. Fred's kids pseak English along with Danish. I find it so odd that it's only Madde's children's language knowlegde that is questioned Huh? Why? Because people assume she will be like Silvia who hasn't taught her children proper German perhaps? Whistle
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« Reply #3223 on: August 10, 2018, 04:02:05 PM »

If they are living in an English speaking country then outside of their home and when mixing with others that is likely how they will communicate or understand how others do - this is not to say they are not multi lingual

It is highly recommended that at home one language is spoken exclusively and then the kids learn the 2nd language outside the home - nursery school usually. Or the parents split: one parent must speak one language exclusively to the kids, the other parent the other language, even if both parents are fluent in both chosen languages. This is up to a certain age (I think 3 or so), and then parents can mix a bit and e.g. speak both languages to their kid/s.

Most immigrant kids learn that way and usually speak both languages superbly.

Kids learn fast anyway and kids aren't that scared by language barriers like adults are. Kids just get on with it and learn crazy fast and are quicker fluent than anyone can say "bilingual" (part of the reason is that kids simply babble away, they're not afraid of mistakes like adults are and just instantly start utilizing the newly learnt words).

Wealthy parents also benefit from employing nannies that speak languages and instruct them to speak that language exclusively to their kids, I suspect M&C have employed a Swedish-speaking nannny, or maybe even a German speaking one. And also having language classes for their kids if they don't have a nanny who speaks another language.

The video of Vic speaking German recently, that was short but that short bit sounded pretty good, so I suspect Silvia taught her kids German and it just hasn't been advertized that much (due to several reasons). I mean what other language would Silvia have spoken to her kids anyway? Her Swedish mustn't have been all that great when she had her kids and I read comments how her Swedish is still pretty bad, but I can't comment on that as I don't speak Swedish so can't tell.
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« Reply #3224 on: August 10, 2018, 07:34:18 PM »

Most magazines in the world are not interested in the SRF (most Swedes aren't - even if the OīNeills are in Sweden there are almost no pictures of them: people just don't care) so I doubt this is the reason.

The Swedish press is always gunning for them - just about all stories are with a negative slant. Paps have also taken photos of them in London fairly often so I think that could part of the reason. They are now further away from Sweden with fewer people knowing who they are and fewer people likely able and interested in giving stories and info to the Swedish press.

I know, I read swedish papers regularly.  Wink But IMO most stories didn't base on pictures. Of course, some grumpy-resting-face-"marriage is in trouble"-pictures now and then, but most stories based on "sources" (Snakey?). I doubt the papers will stop now, and I doubt they are the reason for the move. Perhaps I'm wrong. And perhaps time will tell...
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