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« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2013, 03:34:36 AM »

But Kiki, maybe l'm missing something here, but who said Alex is better than Marie?
l think Alex is stupid as dirt marrying somone like Matin with his porn connections, getting her sons involved with a mimbo like him.
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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2013, 03:43:19 AM »

I did not say someone specifically said that. I'm referencing numerous comments I have seen lately in the Marie threads that seem to imply that Alex was was superior. However Marie and Alex have very similar "backstories". The publicly known facts of their lives aren't that different. So in many ways there are as many "problems" with Alex as there are with Marie. And often only one gets criticized and the other doesn't which has always been interesting to me.

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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2013, 04:07:57 AM »

well, I think the common believe is that Alex was THE princess.

Joachim & Alex met in Hong Kong, fell in love. Alex moved to Denmark and married Joachim. When she came into the family, there was no CP, so she took on the task for a while. She represented well, learned the language fast and very well, worked a lot, and was very well liked by the DRF and the country's people. She & Joachim bore 2 beautiful boys. She had the "it" factor.

Then came Yrma on the scene.

JA divorced and a lot of people started the blame game with Joachim, even though I believe that both fell out of love with each other and in love with their respective partners before the divorce was finalized.

Yrma pretended to be an easy going girl from Tasmania with a good background, being able to adjust easily to her position. Her CV is bolstered, the tabloids are "instructed" to create a picture of Yrma that can get the public over the divorce of J&A.

Alex started to disappear slowly and Yrma has the whole stage for herself - and goes bonkers.

Yrma lies about who she is and what she stands for. She left her home with a bunch of debt, that Fred paid off. Proclaimed that she won't tolerate infidelity, and that her children won't be raised by nannies. Both lies which were proved over and over again. After 10 years her Danish is still abysmal, and I believe she is a clinical narcissistic and shopaholic .

Marie in the scene. A nice, bit inexperienced, young girl falls in love with a prince, is caught off guard by a BB reporter, blabs that she loves Jokke, gets reprimanded, breaks up with Joachim only to marry him in the end. She comes from a well to-do family, went to one of the best schools there is and had to experience how to cope with a blended family. She learns Danish quite fast and establishes her role in DRF. Is well liked by almost all and as it seems has no skeletons in the closet. Bears two cute children, and goes about her life.

Mary could never cope with Marie's presents and the fact that she is what people thought Yrma would be. Hence Yrma goes into overdrive in EVERYTHING. Marie and Alex could give a rats ass.

To me
Alex is "was there-done that-I'm happy where I am now"
Marie is "I love my life-my family-I'm happy-I want to be a good person"
Yrma is "Looker me-I deserve that-as long as I have my position & my Amex I do whatever I want to do"

For some people Marie is too close to Mary - same name, similar appearance, birthdays close together....etc. I don't compare them, I like to contrast them. For me, there is nothing alike about those two. They couldn't be more different. But that's just me.
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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2013, 04:09:03 AM »

I did not say someone specifically said that. I'm referencing numerous comments I have seen lately in the Marie threads that seem to imply that Alex was was superior. However Marie and Alex have very similar "backstories". The publicly known facts of their lives aren't that different. So in many ways there are as many "problems" with Alex as there are with Marie. And often only one gets criticized and the other doesn't which has always been interesting to me.


don't know much about either of them but Alex seems very shady to me, just a vibe (& Martin).  
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2013, 05:06:19 AM »

Give me Marie over Mary any day.  Marie has never been anyone but herself.  She is confident, polite, and seems to be a good mother (and puts up with Jokke).  I find Alex to be rather sleazy and desperate lately.  Marie is harmless and seems to do a good job in her role as a minor princess. 
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2013, 06:36:17 AM »

Pede's, a standing ovation for your post.   Star

You nailed it. Marie IS what Mary pretended to be.
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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2013, 06:46:54 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2013, 09:41:25 AM »

PeDe, you couldn't be more right!!!  Star  Champagne
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« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2013, 10:55:15 AM »

after being everywhere she worked for her dad (remember her days in shorts) was she a secretary there?

she started studying in one college in the US than went back to Geneva than back to a different college in the US

I still don't get why she ended up with  Jokke

Marie, to me at least, seems to be like a lot of people who come from wealthy backgrounds. She attended an expensive school (the most expensive in the world), studied abroad, graduated and then eventually settled down in an apartment paid for her by her parents and eventually in a job with her parents.

She didn't have a stellar career, and probably wasn't bothered about having one as long as she was able to enjoy the lifestyle she was accustomed to.

She would have always married someone rich, probably richer than Joachim, as it's clear she moved in those sorts of wealthy circles long before she met Joachim.

I think pre-Joachim she was happy living her life in a nice apartment, in a great city with an average job that probably covered her personal expenses without having to worry about the bigger things because they were paid for by her parents.

It's not a particularly exciting or unique life but it's one she was happy with. A lot of people would be with such options.

JMO.
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« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2013, 01:06:21 PM »

You nailed it LS, Marie was just leading a life typical of so many daughters in wealthy families. Years ago when Marie first appeared on the scene with Joachim I used to think, OMG, she looks like Mary but now, they are nowhere similar to me, Mary looks old and Marie basically looks the same. One thing I will give Marie is that her background was never played up to try to make her seem more accomplished unlike Mary who has been sold as being anything from a high powered real estate agent to a lawyer. Marie simply is who she is.
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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2013, 01:22:29 PM »

I don't think her background is all that

and she does not look sophisticated
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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2013, 01:36:07 PM »

well, I think the common believe is that Alex was THE princess.

Joachim & Alex met in Hong Kong, fell in love. Alex moved to Denmark and married Joachim. When she came into the family, there was no CP, so she took on the task for a while. She represented well, learned the language fast and very well, worked a lot, and was very well liked by the DRF and the country's people. She & Joachim bore 2 beautiful boys. She had the "it" factor.

Then came Yrma on the scene.

JA divorced and a lot of people started the blame game with Joachim, even though I believe that both fell out of love with each other and in love with their respective partners before the divorce was finalized.

Yrma pretended to be an easy going girl from Tasmania with a good background, being able to adjust easily to her position. Her CV is bolstered, the tabloids are "instructed" to create a picture of Yrma that can get the public over the divorce of J&A.

Alex started to disappear slowly and Yrma has the whole stage for herself - and goes bonkers.

Yrma lies about who she is and what she stands for. She left her home with a bunch of debt, that Fred paid off. Proclaimed that she won't tolerate infidelity, and that her children won't be raised by nannies. Both lies which were proved over and over again. After 10 years her Danish is still abysmal, and I believe she is a clinical narcissistic and shopaholic .

Marie in the scene. A nice, bit inexperienced, young girl falls in love with a prince, is caught off guard by a BB reporter, blabs that she loves Jokke, gets reprimanded, breaks up with Joachim only to marry him in the end. She comes from a well to-do family, went to one of the best schools there is and had to experience how to cope with a blended family. She learns Danish quite fast and establishes her role in DRF. Is well liked by almost all and as it seems has no skeletons in the closet. Bears two cute children, and goes about her life.

Mary could never cope with Marie's presents and the fact that she is what people thought Yrma would be. Hence Yrma goes into overdrive in EVERYTHING. Marie and Alex could give a rats ass.

To me
Alex is "was there-done that-I'm happy where I am now"
Marie is "I love my life-my family-I'm happy-I want to be a good person"
Yrma is "Looker me-I deserve that-as long as I have my position & my Amex I do whatever I want to do"

For some people Marie is too close to Mary - same name, similar appearance, birthdays close together....etc. I don't compare them, I like to contrast them. For me, there is nothing alike about those two. They couldn't be more different. But that's just me.

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« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2013, 01:40:59 PM »

I don't think her background is all that

and she does not look sophisticated

I think her accomplishments pre-marriage were average at best but that's not really any different to many other rich kids IMO.
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2013, 01:46:49 PM »

Yeah I remember posting about how I found that strange that there were barley old pics of her  
Don't think the palace bothered so much with her second wife to the second prince...

no highscool pics? no pics of her old job If existed

Agree, they had the Crown Princess, they had had Alex...Just compare Alex's wedding with Marie's. The interest on the third new princess in a row when they had their Icon Mary was minimal, the press didn't bother, the palace didn't bother and Marie was not particularly interesting  Wink
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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2013, 09:17:24 PM »

I don't think her background is all that

and she does not look sophisticated

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "is all that" but I've got no doubt Marie comes from money - big money too. It doesn't say much, if anything about her as a person, except for the fact that I don't think she married Joachim for the money. I'm 100% sure one of Marie's life goals was to marry well (nothing wrong with that) and she did (-ish, I'm sure she could find a richer man to marry, in a more interesting country, without an ex and two children already) but there's an interesting contrast to Mary, that stems from her background IMO. She's got that quiet confidence and lack of needing to show off, that we see in abundance in Mary. That alone makes her nice and more interesting to me.

Also her knowlegde of languages makes her better at the job. Mary still speaks only two, Marie is fluent in at least three.
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