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« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2013, 08:38:35 PM »

^^^
Looking at these pictures I notice this one of teen-age Anne the most:


Reminds me of Kannot's ringlet hairdo on Remembrance Day.
Is she using old BRF fotos as a template for her hairstyles ?
Looks like she used this pix to position the tiara, which is sort of artless in this foto.
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« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2013, 08:54:46 PM »

I agree -- she looks like a high school girl going to her prom.  I guess you can't change what a personality is.  Being a commoner is not the issue -- other royals have also been commoners, but look much better when they go out.  She is a bar girl who got lucky.  She will never be equal to the job of being Willie's consort.  It's not in her.  Her mother didn't send her to a finishing school because it wouldn't have made any difference.  She's a good time gal that Willie had fun with, but never should have married. 

Absolutely  Star  you have said what I have always thought.  Especially the last sentence: William should NEVER have married her.  I wonder if this has dawned on him yet?
Given how disgusted/miserable he usually looks when he's with her, I'd say, yes, it probably has dawned on him.
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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2013, 09:22:29 PM »

I always thought the Papyrus Tiara belongs to Viscount Linley and not HM. If that is true I wonder if he sold it to Will and Kate (of course payed by Charles not Will because imo he is cheap) or if he lend it to her. Maybe there is the third option as giving it to her as "compensation" because she was photographed naked at his chateaux. After all the photographer went to court because Will said so. What would Will's punishment be for the relative who's place was (in his mind) lacking the protection/security he demands/expects?  Secret
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« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2013, 09:37:43 PM »

I always thought the Papyrus Tiara belongs to Viscount Linley and not HM. If that is true I wonder if he sold it to Will and Kate (of course payed by Charles not Will because imo he is cheap) or if he lend it to her. Maybe there is the third option as giving it to her as "compensation" because she was photographed naked at his chateaux. After all the photographer went to court because Will said so. What would Will's punishment be for the relative who's place was (in his mind) lacking the protection/security he demands/expects?  Secret
The tiara belonged to Margaret. After her death it seems most likely, IMO, that she willed it back to the Crown.
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« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2013, 09:54:59 PM »

I think these things are willing to the Crown so the family does not have to pay those huge death duties.
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« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2013, 09:55:59 PM »

I always thought the Papyrus Tiara belongs to Viscount Linley and not HM. If that is true I wonder if he sold it to Will and Kate (of course payed by Charles not Will because imo he is cheap) or if he lend it to her. Maybe there is the third option as giving it to her as "compensation" because she was photographed naked at his chateaux. After all the photographer went to court because Will said so. What would Will's punishment be for the relative who's place was (in his mind) lacking the protection/security he demands/expects?  Secret
The tiara belonged to Margaret. After her death it seems most likely, IMO, that she willed it back to the Crown.

On the first page of this thread, there's a picture of the Queen Mother wearing it.

I think it probably belonged to the Queen Mother who loaned it to Margaret whenever she wanted it (and Margaret appears to have loaned it to Serena Linley on her wedding day).

But remember Margaret passed away before the Queen Mother. So my conjecture is that QM willed it all to Charles along with all her other jewels, and that's why Kate has access to it.

I really doubt that if it belonged to Margaret and then the Linleys, they'd have loaned it to Kate.
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« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2013, 09:57:37 PM »


Why her mouth is open without any expression ?  Huh?



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« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2013, 10:36:32 PM »

I always thought the Papyrus Tiara belongs to Viscount Linley and not HM. If that is true I wonder if he sold it to Will and Kate (of course payed by Charles not Will because imo he is cheap) or if he lend it to her. Maybe there is the third option as giving it to her as "compensation" because she was photographed naked at his chateaux. After all the photographer went to court because Will said so. What would Will's punishment be for the relative who's place was (in his mind) lacking the protection/security he demands/expects?  Secret
The tiara belonged to Margaret. After her death it seems most likely, IMO, that she willed it back to the Crown.

On the first page of this thread, there's a picture of the Queen Mother wearing it.

I think it probably belonged to the Queen Mother who loaned it to Margaret whenever she wanted it (and Margaret appears to have loaned it to Serena Linley on her wedding day).

But remember Margaret passed away before the Queen Mother. So my conjecture is that QM willed it all to Charles along with all her other jewels, and that's why Kate has access to it.

I really doubt that if it belonged to Margaret and then the Linleys, they'd have loaned it to Kate.

It's rumored that Sarah got the Snowdon Floral Tiara and David - being the heir - probably got a tiara for his wife too when his mother died. That's why I thought it is possible it belongs to David. Maybe it's like with Queen Victorias jewels. Some of her tiaras went to her other children and now e.g. her Diamond and Sapphire tiara belongs to the Earl of Harewood. My favorite tiara, Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara, is said to belong to the Duke of Fife although it has not been seen since the 90s.
I think it could also be the case with Anne's Meander tiara. It was a wedding gift to HM but she never wore it and gave or lend it to Anne. If Peter gets the Festoon Tiara maybe Zara will get the Meander. She already wore it at her wedding. These two are Anne's signature tiaras. The other one she wore went back into the royal vault for many years until it was lend to Kate at her wedding day.
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« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2013, 10:51:13 PM »

I always thought the Papyrus Tiara belongs to Viscount Linley and not HM. If that is true I wonder if he sold it to Will and Kate (of course payed by Charles not Will because imo he is cheap) or if he lend it to her. Maybe there is the third option as giving it to her as "compensation" because she was photographed naked at his chateaux. After all the photographer went to court because Will said so. What would Will's punishment be for the relative who's place was (in his mind) lacking the protection/security he demands/expects?  Secret
The tiara belonged to Margaret. After her death it seems most likely, IMO, that she willed it back to the Crown.

On the first page of this thread, there's a picture of the Queen Mother wearing it.

I think it probably belonged to the Queen Mother who loaned it to Margaret whenever she wanted it (and Margaret appears to have loaned it to Serena Linley on her wedding day).

But remember Margaret passed away before the Queen Mother. So my conjecture is that QM willed it all to Charles along with all her other jewels, and that's why Kate has access to it.

I really doubt that if it belonged to Margaret and then the Linleys, they'd have loaned it to Kate.

It's rumored that Sarah got the Snowdon Floral Tiara and David - being the heir - probably got a tiara for his wife too when his mother died. That's why I thought it is possible it belongs to David. Maybe it's like with Queen Victorias jewels. Some of her tiaras went to her other children and now e.g. her Diamond and Sapphire tiara belongs to the Earl of Harewood. My favorite tiara, Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara, is said to belong to the Duke of Fife although it has not been seen since the 90s.
I think it could also be the case with Anne's Meander tiara. It was a wedding gift to HM but she never wore it and gave or lend it to Anne. If Peter gets the Festoon Tiara maybe Zara will get the Meander. She already wore it at her wedding. These two are Anne's signature tiaras. The other one she wore went back into the royal vault for many years until it was lend to Kate at her wedding day.
I believe David recieved the Poltimore tiara which was later sold to pay debts left by Margaret. After the sale of the tiara,he made a tiara himself out of wood for his wife. I think it's made of beech wood. It's surprisingly pretty for a wooden tiara.
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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2013, 10:53:39 PM »

I love this tiara - and I have to admit, I don't think it looked too bad on Kate, from the awful photos we got. It actually looks like a pretty good ensemble - and I would have LOVED to see a clear shot from the front!

That said... I just don't understand why they allowed these pictures to be released. Kate doesn't look good in any of them; I sorta get the feeling that she didn't even know they were being taken at the moment or surely she wouldn't have looked so terrified. In one of the only three available shots you can't even SEE the darn tiara - which is the whole point of the photos!

...which sort of makes me think that HM + Palace said no photos and someone  Secret tipped off dear old Tanna, thinking that proof of a tiara loan would prove that Kate is in HM's good graces. Thoughts?
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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2013, 10:54:46 PM »

I think these things are willing to the Crown so the family does not have to pay those huge death duties.

Margaret's children sold many of her pieces at auction to cover the taxes.
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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2013, 11:28:28 PM »

Hasn't Viscount Linley held a couple of auctions over the years?

Maybe the tiara was part of the lots and the RF bought it ack to keep it within the family?
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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2013, 11:39:30 PM »

I always thought the Papyrus Tiara belongs to Viscount Linley and not HM. If that is true I wonder if he sold it to Will and Kate (of course payed by Charles not Will because imo he is cheap) or if he lend it to her. Maybe there is the third option as giving it to her as "compensation" because she was photographed naked at his chateaux. After all the photographer went to court because Will said so. What would Will's punishment be for the relative who's place was (in his mind) lacking the protection/security he demands/expects?  Secret
The tiara belonged to Margaret. After her death it seems most likely, IMO, that she willed it back to the Crown.

On the first page of this thread, there's a picture of the Queen Mother wearing it.

I think it probably belonged to the Queen Mother who loaned it to Margaret whenever she wanted it (and Margaret appears to have loaned it to Serena Linley on her wedding day).

But remember Margaret passed away before the Queen Mother. So my conjecture is that QM willed it all to Charles along with all her other jewels, and that's why Kate has access to it.

I really doubt that if it belonged to Margaret and then the Linleys, they'd have loaned it to Kate.

It's rumored that Sarah got the Snowdon Floral Tiara and David - being the heir - probably got a tiara for his wife too when his mother died. That's why I thought it is possible it belongs to David. Maybe it's like with Queen Victorias jewels. Some of her tiaras went to her other children and now e.g. her Diamond and Sapphire tiara belongs to the Earl of Harewood. My favorite tiara, Queen Victoria's Emerald and Diamond Tiara, is said to belong to the Duke of Fife although it has not been seen since the 90s.
I think it could also be the case with Anne's Meander tiara. It was a wedding gift to HM but she never wore it and gave or lend it to Anne. If Peter gets the Festoon Tiara maybe Zara will get the Meander. She already wore it at her wedding. These two are Anne's signature tiaras. The other one she wore went back into the royal vault for many years until it was lend to Kate at her wedding day.
I believe David recieved the Poltimore tiara which was later sold to pay debts left by Margaret. After the sale of the tiara,he made a tiara himself out of wood for his wife. I think it's made of beech wood. It's surprisingly pretty for a wooden tiara.

He sure did...



I'm sorry but to me it looks like it might as well be made of butter. If my husband got into money trouble and had to sell a tiara like Poltimore, I would be mad as hell with him. Ok, so maybe it couldn't be avoided but my reaction to getting a wooden one would pretty much be...




And then I'd make him promise to get me a REAL tiara!  Spiteful

No... I wouldn't be that cruel to my husband after all the work and effort he'd put into that thing... My reaction would probable be more like this:
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« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2013, 11:44:26 PM »

Here's the Christie's auction page for the Linley sale:

http://www.christies.com/...s/woodwork/specialist.asp

As Whimsicalwriter said above, the Poltimore Tiara is on there, but it's the only tiara among the 800 items. I understand it got bought by someone from Asia.

I think the picture of the Queen Mother wearing the Papyrus Tiara dates from when she was Duchess if York, so it's not crown property, and she seems to have left all her personal stuff to Charles and ignored all her other grandchildren (I'm sure someone who knows more about the Queen Mother's Will will correct me if I'm wrong!)
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« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2013, 11:52:42 PM »

I love this tiara - and I have to admit, I don't think it looked too bad on Kate, from the awful photos we got. It actually looks like a pretty good ensemble - and I would have LOVED to see a clear shot from the front!

That said... I just don't understand why they allowed these pictures to be released. Kate doesn't look good in any of them; I sorta get the feeling that she didn't even know they were being taken at the moment or surely she wouldn't have looked so terrified. In one of the only three available shots you can't even SEE the darn tiara - which is the whole point of the photos!

...which sort of makes me think that HM + Palace said no photos and someone  Secret tipped off dear old Tanna, thinking that proof of a tiara loan would prove that Kate is in HM's good graces. Thoughts?
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i'm with you there.
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