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« Reply #7350 on: August 10, 2017, 03:10:10 AM »

Dash2   I am stupid stupid stupid. I promised myself that I wouldn't watch the ever so dramatic documentary, then I went and did. And now I'm   and  Real mad I hope this isn't OT but it seems that neither 'motherless' prince (and they're grown men now) feels it might be appropriate to think of the hungry, the poor, the sick, the homeless, the marginalized people in their country and actually do something for them. This carrying on and /sharing/whining imo is a bit much 20 years later, not to mention they are hardly the only ones who have lost a loved one, or for that matter never had a mother to begin with, so this to me is pure 'poor me, pr puke'. JMO The money spent on that syrupy tribute would have been better used to help the people who are in desperate and deep need. Yes, they are entitled to their feelings, their grief, but again I was stupid stupid stupid to watch it. It didn't generate sympathy or the pity I think they were shooting for, that's in the past, it just made me angry. Statues and stories cost money, and it's not their money I'll bet. Agree with Vava some of it is very moving, but personally I should have quit watching while I was still moved Blush  Grow up already, William Real mad the people who fund your lifestyle deserve more from you.

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ETA: I just reread my post and realized that my focus was on the 'boys' and not the subject of the Documentary. I am not changing it, this says a lot and I might be in the minority but to me, this was about the 'poor wittle pwinces'. JMO

I'm sure you're not in the minority.  If you are, I'm there, too.   Though I admit I couldn't watch the whole thing.  Listening to William makes me irrationally angry.  I am biased against him anyway because I don't like him, and there is a limit to how many times I am able to listen to him saying how "sweet" a photograph is before I start to strangle him.  I watched the doco as long as could but it can't have been more than about five minutes before I couldn't stand any more and wanted to throw things at the monitor, so I turned it off. 

I was never a fan of their mother but I have come to appreciate that Diana did take her work seriously, and did a good job of it.  If these two whining man-children truly want to honour her, they should stop whining and set about working as assiduously as she did for the causes to which she was dedicated.  That would be a fitting tribute to her.   
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« Reply #7351 on: August 10, 2017, 04:38:16 AM »

 Good post

Stop whining and start working. Time for the men to start acting like adults.
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« Reply #7352 on: August 10, 2017, 04:50:16 AM »

I watched it AND enjoyed it but I don't dislike, much less hate William or any of them.
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« Reply #7353 on: August 10, 2017, 05:06:40 AM »

I couldn't deal with it. The whining and using their dead mother to make them look better, as an excuse, poor us we're little boys who lost our mother--shut up, you're grown men, take responsibility, especially William. And the more Harry is around William the worse, I think, and it shows.
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« Reply #7354 on: August 10, 2017, 02:05:59 PM »

I couldn't deal with it. The whining and using their dead mother to make them look better, as an excuse, poor us we're little boys who lost our mother--shut up, you're grown men, take responsibility, especially William. And the more Harry is around William the worse, I think, and it shows.

I agree especially with the last bit. Will seems to be a very bad influence on people around him like Kate or Harry and obviously the KP office as well. I think he does pull rank a lot, thinks he is superiour and knows best and if you criticise him you're probably out forever.
The documentary was the usual whiny nonsense with Will's mandatory insults of Harry disguised as lame jokes but one thing I found strange. The first part when people were again and again talking about her humor and Harry talked about what advise she gave him, it made her look like an airhead. I was surprised that this part got the thumbs up from KP but I think this is what they see in her. The fun loving, silly and very naive girl who did stupid things she often regretted is their role model instead of the hard-working mother who truly cared for other people and tried for a long time to be a good senior royal despite a lot of personal problems.
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Will: Absolutely willingly. And as that time comes I'll be the first person to put my hand up and take it on. But [] my grandfather is so active [] and unwilling to slow down.
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« Reply #7355 on: August 10, 2017, 02:26:00 PM »

As long as they paint Diana as the fun, awesome mom who was the victim of the evil Royal Family I'm sure William is okay with it.  Angry

I think it shows how little she was present in their lives (Harry vaguely seemed to hint at this and how the divorce kept them away from both parents). She was just there to be fun and leave when it got boring; they don't remember anything else from her, which is so sad considering the amazing things she did do with her fame and publicity.

When I think about my parents, I think about their many screw-ups, sure, and the fun stuff, but also the sort of people I want to be--or in some cases in their example do not want to be... It seems they just want a fun, frivolous life with no responsibilities and seem to say that's what their mother told them! See, no work, have fun, say you're going to be a present parent or work and do neither and do whatever you want!
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« Reply #7356 on: August 10, 2017, 03:00:54 PM »

Suzy and Ellie, I think you make very good points about William & Harry's perception of their mother, and I find the notion that they may see her most appealing qualities as those associated with her fun-loving side rather than her work ethic to be very interesting.  What you say ties in with something I said in a post a week or so back, which was basically that I am not particularly interested in their perceptions since their views are views formed by children, whose role in their now deceased parent's life was always that of a child, and, because she died, their relationship was frozen at that point and will always be that of parent and child/adolescent.  They did not know her when they were adults, and their views are always going to be skewed, and flavoured by things they have been told or heard or read since then, and they will only take on board the things that fit within their rose-tinted image of her as naughty mother who did the fun stuff.  That is what they think is important and it is how they want to remember her, not as a hard-working role model who had difficulties in her life but rose above them and did a serious job well and who spent a fair amount of time improving herself so she could do it even better.
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« Reply #7357 on: August 10, 2017, 11:37:05 PM »

Personally I think they should have let the anniversary pass quietly this time.

You know how fashions or styles of 20 years ago look dated but once you hit 30-40 years it looks hip/reassessed/resurrected? I wonder if thats the same thing here. I havent watched the documentary other than the one clip I saw somewhere (maybe here) and it seemed so silly and likely skewed for whatever purpose it was needed. The ten year was one thing but it seems a bit more awareness of the state of the world would have been helpful rather than this personal indulgence crap. Somehow nostalgia for that time seems out of place right now, but maybe in 10 years it won't be.

TLDR; this was totally tone deaf and made no one, including the subject, look good
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