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One of these Twitter videos was William going to a workshop of people drawing and coloring “what a home means to them”. Obviously, William could not participate in that little workshop (as drawing KP or Amner is ridiculous). His staff really needs to vet exactly what is going on in workshops. To me, it was glaring that this was going to be a problem for William as soon as he walked in.
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One of these Twitter videos was William going to a workshop of people drawing and coloring “what a home means to them”. Obviously, William could not participate in that little workshop (as drawing KP or Amner is ridiculous). His staff really needs to vet exactly what is going on in workshops. To me, it was glaring that this was going to be a problem for William as soon as he walked in.
This is how it went. Video in link below. I see no issue. He was visiting different groups, rooms, chatting with all. Prince William called everyone “bloody good artists” when he saw their artwork on what home means to them. Definitely not,” the prince said when asked if he wanted to draw, to an uproar or laughter. “I can’t draw, everyone knows that!” https://twitter.com/Royal.../1628762235714543616?s=20 |
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I appreciate what he's trying to do here, but I'm just not sure any of his words and empathy will bring about any effective change. No, I'm not suggesting he open up state owned palaces and properties to the homeless, but how is it anything but a slap in the face to those facing housing insecurity when he has multiple homes he lives in?
I don't buy the raising awareness thing either...everybody knows homelessness exists and is a real problem.
I just think he needs to tread lightly by attaching himself to causes that can make him look hypocritical (homelessness when he has 4 houses, climate change when he has 4 houses and he and his wife use helicopters as taxis, mental illness when he has relatives and in-laws who openly struggle with mental illness, etc.).
Did this visit come with any money or are they no longer doing the Day of Impact idea? Or perhaps he could ask his dad to donate the amount he didn't pay in inheritance tax and use that amount to fund even more of these refurbished housing units.
I think the whole British Royal Family is trying to figure out who they are in a post-Elizabeth era, and they seem to be lurching from being celebrities to being experts in certain areas. There are innumerable good causes they could and do support, but this one just rubs me wrong.
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There is literally nothing that he can do that doesn’t look hypocritical to someone. He’s rich. Most Patrons of organizations are rich whether they are royals or celebrities.
He has been Patron since 2019 but visiting them much longer. Diana was Patron and took him there as a child.
He has made announced and unannounced visits serving food, packing bags, helping with forms, selling magazines, etc many times over the years.
He mentioned again today that he is working on a homelessness issue to be announced later this year. No, he can’t solve homelessness but I don’t see why he should ignore it either.
The Day of Impact isn’t something that is going to happen constantly. It’s a fundraising partnership with communities. People complained about that too when they did it.
I’m sure personally and through the Royal Foundation that he is supporting his Patronages and other charities financially but these things are rarely announced.
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One of these Twitter videos was William going to a workshop of people drawing and coloring “what a home means to them”. Obviously, William could not participate in that little workshop (as drawing KP or Amner is ridiculous). His staff really needs to vet exactly what is going on in workshops. To me, it was glaring that this was going to be a problem for William as soon as he walked in.
This is how it went. Video in link below. I see no issue. He was visiting different groups, rooms, chatting with all. Prince William called everyone “bloody good artists” when he saw their artwork on what home means to them. Definitely not,” the prince said when asked if he wanted to draw, to an uproar or laughter. “I can’t draw, everyone knows that!” https://twitter.com/Royal.../1628762235714543616?s=20I agree, William handled it well. But he should not have been in a workshop where he had to decline drawing “what a house means to him” is all I’m saying. That’s on his staff…and this would not be the first time the Cambridges have been put in odd positions. Walking around, talking to people, seeing the set up is fine. William being invited to drawing his house(s) amongst the homeless is not fine. It’s a detail his staff missed and they should not have. |
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Cordelia Fitzgerald
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There is literally nothing that he can do that doesn’t look hypocritical to someone. He’s rich. Most Patrons of organizations are rich whether they are royals or celebrities.
He has been Patron since 2019 but visiting them much longer. Diana was Patron and took him there as a child.
He has made announced and unannounced visits serving food, packing bags, helping with forms, selling magazines, etc many times over the years.
He mentioned again today that he is working on a homelessness issue to be announced later this year. No, he can’t solve homelessness but I don’t see why he should ignore it either.
The Day of Impact isn’t something that is going to happen constantly. It’s a fundraising partnership with communities. People complained about that too when they did it.
I’m sure personally and through the Royal Foundation that he is supporting his Patronages and other charities financially but these things are rarely announced.
Fair enough!  There are many patronages and charities and causes royals (across the world, not just in the UK) support that don't rub me wrong despite their personal wealth and privilege. This one just does! |
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KP shared a nice video after todays visit to The Passage. Maybe there is hope for their social media after all. “Ending homelessness must be more than a wishful aspiration. It should be viewed as an achievable goal – one that we can and must accomplish by working together.” https://twitter.com/kensi...;t=HyrQ2hNIos7HHhtP7airig |
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One of these Twitter videos was William going to a workshop of people drawing and coloring “what a home means to them”. Obviously, William could not participate in that little workshop (as drawing KP or Amner is ridiculous). His staff really needs to vet exactly what is going on in workshops. To me, it was glaring that this was going to be a problem for William as soon as he walked in.
This is how it went. Video in link below. I see no issue. He was visiting different groups, rooms, chatting with all. Prince William called everyone “bloody good artists” when he saw their artwork on what home means to them. Definitely not,” the prince said when asked if he wanted to draw, to an uproar or laughter. “I can’t draw, everyone knows that!” https://twitter.com/Royal.../1628762235714543616?s=20I could critique William on many things but declining to draw "what a home means" (to him) isn't one of them. Anything he drew would have dissected; discussed, debated, and, probably, linked to the off-topic couple in some way. William handled it perfectly, with a self-deprecating joke. Royals are there to shine a light on a cause or an organization and he did that. |
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"What would life be without art? Science prolongs life. To consist of what - eating, drinking, and sleeping? What is the good of living longer if it is only a matter of satisfying the requirements that sustain life? All this is nothing without the charm of art."
~ Sarah Bernhardt
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Agreed, he couldn’t have drawn one of his four houses including a palace, so why he was put in a position to decline isn’t great. I’ve even seen jokes about it on social media that he declined because he didn’t know which house of his he should draw.
Message to KP staff: Vet your events.
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I appreciate what he's trying to do here, but I'm just not sure any of his words and empathy will bring about any effective change. No, I'm not suggesting he open up state owned palaces and properties to the homeless, but how is it anything but a slap in the face to those facing housing insecurity when he has multiple homes he lives in?
I don't buy the raising awareness thing either...everybody knows homelessness exists and is a real problem.
I just think he needs to tread lightly by attaching himself to causes that can make him look hypocritical (homelessness when he has 4 houses, climate change when he has 4 houses and he and his wife use helicopters as taxis, mental illness when he has relatives and in-laws who openly struggle with mental illness, etc.).
Did this visit come with any money or are they no longer doing the Day of Impact idea? Or perhaps he could ask his dad to donate the amount he didn't pay in inheritance tax and use that amount to fund even more of these refurbished housing units.
I think the whole British Royal Family is trying to figure out who they are in a post-Elizabeth era, and they seem to be lurching from being celebrities to being experts in certain areas. There are innumerable good causes they could and do support, but this one just rubs me wrong.
To be fair, of your three examples of homelessness, climate change and mental illness, he does actually have personal experience of mental illness. It doesn't just affect those who struggle but all around them too and it can feel as isolating to witness as to experience sometimes. That aside, I do get your point about the seeming hypocrisy of tackling homelessness and climate change. The thing is, his background doesn't mean he doesn't or can't care about those. We all have things we care about that in many respects have nothing to do with us - I care about Ukraine, I care about the people affected by the earthquakes in Syria and Turkey, but I've never been to any of those countries, don't speak their languages, never been in an earthquake etc. Homelessness is a terrible problem and is one that with support and facilities could be greatly alleviated (sadly, I don't believe ever eliminated) and him being patron could help to deliver those facilities etc. Climate change though, is definitely one they could do so much more. I know people talk about the benefit of Kate's wardrobe to fashion brands, but modelling the 75th interchangeable blue coat is not a good example - it's gone straight past very expensive fast fashion into disgusting consumerism. Helicopters are dangerous as well as their environmental cost. Lending their names to this isn't enough, they need to walk the walk too. |
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TLLK
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One of these Twitter videos was William going to a workshop of people drawing and coloring “what a home means to them”. Obviously, William could not participate in that little workshop (as drawing KP or Amner is ridiculous). His staff really needs to vet exactly what is going on in workshops. To me, it was glaring that this was going to be a problem for William as soon as he walked in.
This is how it went. Video in link below. I see no issue. He was visiting different groups, rooms, chatting with all. Prince William called everyone “bloody good artists” when he saw their artwork on what home means to them. Definitely not,” the prince said when asked if he wanted to draw, to an uproar or laughter. “I can’t draw, everyone knows that!” https://twitter.com/Royal.../1628762235714543616?s=20I could critique William on many things but declining to draw "what a home means" (to him) isn't one of them. Anything he drew would have dissected; discussed, debated, and, probably, linked to the off-topic couple in some way. William handled it perfectly, with a self-deprecating joke. Royals are there to shine a light on a cause or an organization and he did that. Thank you for your reply. I disagree with those who believe that William and his office didn't "vet" this activity. IMO they were likely very well briefed on the activities of the workshop today. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if William has sat in on one of these before during a private visit. A private visit, not one that has a film crew and photographers present. Let's keep in mind that for these types of organizations, the workshop is for the clients' benefit. The clients' participation in this drawing activity is far more important and necessary than his because it's going to give the leaders of the session the direction that they need to take with their groups. IMHO they shouldn't have to alter their activity just because today is a public visit. |
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