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« on: July 14, 2014, 12:40:14 PM »

A short while ago I have met and spoken to someone who had studied law at Leiden University. One of her fellow students at law was prince Floris, the youngest son of princess Margriet and Pieter van Vollenhoven. According to her experiences Floris was almost never present at lectures and did not impress her. To her he came across as a not very bright student, who was more interested in the (social) student organisation (Minerva) he was member of.

Also in the past points, testscores etc. were published on a bulletin board including the (full) name of the students. Apparently this was changed during the period Willem-Alexander studied in Leiden. The names were replaced by numbers............ Perhaps a way to prevent others to see and judge WA's scores. If I remember it correct the thesis of WA was kept private.

Many members of the Dutch royal family have studied at university (in Netherlands or abroad). But I guess this was with various results and that the real nerd of the family was prince (Johan-)Friso. Who studied Mechanical Engineering at the College of Engineering of the University of California in Berkley (1986-1988), which he finished succesfully.  From 1988 till 1994 Friso studied Aerospace Engineering at Delft University of Technology, where he earned his engineers degree. Of aerospace engineering is often said that this is one of the toughest and most difficult studies. From 1990 Friso also studied business economics at the Erasmus University Rotterdam. In 1995 he succeeded his master in business economics. By achieving three university degrees the media began to call him "Prince maven".

Apparently in order to be prepared for a possible kingship, Friso also took private lessons include parliamentary history and Dutch law.

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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2014, 02:33:35 PM »

Thanks  Star , I knew Friso was the smartest of the bunch and personally the more interesting.I thought Constantijn was quite the highflyer as well.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2014, 06:35:22 PM »

Thanks  Star , I knew Friso was the smartest of the bunch and personally the more interesting.I thought Constantijn was quite the highflyer as well.

Your welcome....

Indeed Constantijn also seems to be a highflyer as well.

In the academic year 1987-1988 Constantijn attended language courses in France and Italy. Then from 1988 till 1995 he studied law at Leiden University, with the specialization civil law. Afterwards Constantijn had an internship at the Office of the Commissioner of the European Commission, Hans van den Broek, where he then remained active until 1999. By the way Hans van den Broek is the father in law of prince Maurits.

In 2000 Constantijn took a MBA at INSEAD. After his marriage to Laurentien in 2001 he moved to London.

Constantijn served as an advisor on European Communications at the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs and in the Brussels office of RAND Europe. First as a policy researcher, then as head of the Information Policy and Economics Team and finally as head of this office. Then Constantijn made the transition to the European Commission, first as a consultant and later as Deputy Head of Cabinet of Commissioner, Neelie Kroes, Commissioner for the Digital Agenda in Brussels (where Constantijn and his family have lived since 2004). Since April 1, 2013 Constantijn is the private secretary of Neelie Kroes.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2014, 09:43:21 AM »

When I went to uni in Amsterdam (about the same time as Wax btw) there were never names on the bulletin boards with exam/test results, just the student numbers. And I didn't mind at all that nobody could immediately connect my scores to my name. Because what's the point?

As for Wax' thesis (allegedly only a 6 out of 10 or 7 out of 10, 6/10 being a pass). The system of a university education has changed since, (from Drs to Bachelor&Master) and so have the contents of the courses. I have read many theses over the years, and A LOT of them are sup par, and not just because the spelling, grammar and syntax suck. The quality of the work often leaves a lot to be desired. Also, surprise surprise, different professors have different standards of judging the work. Even in my day we knew that if you asked certain professors to monitor your thesis, you'd be working your *ss of for a mere 7/10, and if you'd score higher than that, you'd be regarded as a high potential ace student. Other professors would award any shoddy work with a 7/10, and you'd only be held in high esteem if you scored a 9/10 with them. I don't remember if the thesis scores were actually published. I know for sure that they weren't noted on the theses that were in the library.

One of the things the DRF does cleverly is having the kids study as many languages as they can stomach. I'm convinced that Wax. Friso and Constantijn were stimulated by their mother and father to really push themselves scholarly. And even if Wax isn't the brightest of the bunch, he as enough EQ to make a good king (so far...).

As for not showing up at lectures in Leiden (like Floris) but going to Minerva: this is rather 'normal' behaviour among members of Minerva (sadly). They do, however, have an informal mentoring system to make sure you obtain your degree eventually.
Margriet's other boys obtained a degree in economics (Maurits and Bernhard) and law (Pieter-Christiaan).
Might look up the others later, but I'd just be rehashing the wikis anyway Wink
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2014, 12:23:45 PM »

Thanks for the info Pomme

You are correct, at my former uni the thesis´ could be found in the library, but without the rewarded points. It only indicated you graduated Wink But everybody, with excess to the uni library, could read your thesis. Is the thesis of WA published in the library of Leiden University?

Around the time I went to  uni the government and other related institutions tryed to prevent the eternal student  Smiley  The performance scholarship was there and corresponding regulations. Also I was part of one of the last batches of students who graduated in the Drs. system. But my diploma mentioned both Drs. and Master.

By the way I have met many German people who were suprised that in the Netherlands a lot of people graduate at uni around their mid-twenties. And that you can go to work without further specialisation. As in the (old) system of Germany the education would take more time.

Currently I am not really in the scientific world anymore, I drifted off  Wink  So, I am not really aware of the current situations at uni. My knowledge is predominantly based on the experiences of old (college)friends and family & friends who went to Uni later on.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 12:46:31 PM »

One of the things the DRF does cleverly is having the kids study as many languages as they can stomach. I'm convinced that Wax. Friso and Constantijn were stimulated by their mother and father to really push themselves scholarly. And even if Wax isn't the brightest of the bunch, he as enough EQ to make a good king (so far...).

I agree. Even if Wax wasn't the brightest, it appears his parents still made him take his education seriously, study languages and pass his courses to the best of his ability and prepare for his future role. Not everyone is born a genius and some people are more academically inclined than others. The Bea and Claus did well. Wax grew up with enough education to be a good king and he seems to have a decent work ethic for his role and is a loving husband and father. He's miles ahead of Frodo and Willy.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 01:46:33 PM »

Let see:

Maurits:
In 1987 after graduating high school Maurits performed military service with the Royal Netherlands Marine Corps and the Royal Netherlands Navy. Subsequently he went to study economics at the University of Groningen, where he graduated in 1995. During his study Maurits was member of Vindicat. He also met his future wife, Marilène van den Broek, in Groningen.

After his study Maurits worked for the Schiphol Airport Authority, where he occupied several positions, including Senior Manager of Passenger Services.From September 2001 to May 2006, Maurits worked for Philips (Domestic Appliances and Personal Care) in Amersfoort, where he was in charge of part of the Philishave portfolio.

In May 2006, Maurits started his own business, The Source, which focuses on innovative concepts for products, services and systems for both business and government.

Since 1 May 2013, Maurits is Aide-de-camp to King Willem-Alexander and promoted to the rank of Commander (Dutch: Kapitein-luitenant ter Zee) in the Royal Netherlands Navy.


Bernhard
In 1988 after graduating high school Bernhard studied economics at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C. Subsequently in 1989 he went to Groningen University were he studied marketing and market research. Bernhard graduated in 1995.

During his student days Bernhard and two fellow students started the company Ritzen Couriers (named after Jo Ritzen, the then Minister of Education). Ritzen Couriers could deliver packets etc. cheaply by using the OV-studentcard (which was just introduced). The company came into disrepute after it was accused of fraud (with social contributions) by the GAK. Employees would have received a lease car as disguised salary without subjected to social insurance contributions were paid. The company eventually accepted a deal proposed by the prosecution in the amount of 25.000 Guilders.

After graduation Bernhard founded the internet company Clockwork, together with some friends. A few years later the company had more than sixty employees.  Over the years Clockwork was responsible for the websites of among others KLM, Achmea and Coca-Cola.


Pieter-Christiaan
After graduation at the Stedelijk Gymnasium in Apeldoorn P-C did his military conscription at the Royal Marechaussee, for which his still was enlisted as a Reserve Lieutenant Colonel. During his service in the military he already started law at the Utrecht University, of which he graduated in 1999.

During his study P-C was a member of the Utrecht Student Corps, where he was active in the symposium committee and at the Utrecht student resilience.

From 2000 to 2003 PC worked in London for Equity Capital Markets, a joint venture between ABN AMRO and NM Rothschild. In 2003 P-C did a one year MBA at the International School for Managment and Development (IMD) in Lausanne (Switzerland). As of March 2004, P-C was working as a marketing strategist at ICT company Shop Services in Amsterdam. From 2004 to 2009 P-C was working at the Directorate of Operations on the staff of the Royal Military Police. He left the service as a lieutenant colonel and is now in the same rank reservist.


Floris
Floris has studied Dutch law at the University of Leiden, both the business and criminal graduation variant. He apparently graduated in 2002. Floris worked at the Office of the District Court of Amsterdam as a public prosecutor. In 2005 Floris was policy secretary at the Public Prosecution. From 2007 to 2011 Floris worked as relationship manager sector technology, media and telecom at the Deutsche Bank. Since 2011 Floris works as a director at KPMG Corperate Finance.


Carlos
Carlos spend his childhood in the Netherlands, Spain, France, England and the USA. When he was 11 years his parents divorced. Carlos then moved to the Netherlands with his mother and siblings. If I am correct he did (and finished) high school in the Netherlands.

Carlos studied political sciences at Wesleyan University in Connecticut and demography and philosophy at Cambridge University.

After completing his studies Carlos worked for the company ABN AMRO in Amsterdam, where he was involved with the preparations for the introduction of the euro. He then worked for a while in Brussels as a public affairs consultant for the company European Public Policy Advisors (EPPA). Since 2007 he is engaged in projects concerning sustainability in the business world. Carlos is chairman of the foundation Netherlands get new energy.

Occasionally Carlos performs representative tasks. In 2003 he was present at the installation of the Prince Claus Chair together with then Queen Beatrix and Princess Máxima. Carlos is regulary present at social events in the (Dutch) Royal Family. He was among others one of the members of the bridal party at the wedding of his cousin prince Constantijn in 2001. Annually Carlos and his family are present at the ceremonies in Parma and Piancenze. Since 2010, after the dead of his father Carlos Hugo, Carlos is entitled the Duke of Parma and is head of the House of Bourbon-Parma


Margarita
When Margarita was 9 years her parents divorced. Margarita then moved to the Netherlands with her mother and siblings. If I am correct she did attend (and finished) high school in the Netherlands. Margarita studied cultural anthropology at the Vrije Universiteit of Amsterdam.  She studied interior architecture in The Hague and is a interior designer.


Jaime
When Jaime was 9 years old his parents divorced, Jaime then moved to the Netherlands with his mother and siblings, If I am correct he did attend (and graduated) high school in the Netherlans.

Jaime studied International relations at the Brown University in Rhode Island, USA. After finishing this study he subsequently obtained a M.A. degree in International Economics and Conflict Management at the Johns Hopkins University in Maryland, USA. During this study he performed an internship at the World Wide Fund for Nature and the Red Cross.

Jaime now works for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands. His first roles were as the prime secretary of the Netherlands Embassy in Baghdad, before becoming a political advisor to the peace mission in Pol-e Khomri in the Baghlan Province in the northern part of Afghanistan. Until the summer of 2007 the prince worked on secondment in the cabinet of the European Commissioner Neelie Kroes. He is now back in The Hague at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where he has the position of Special Envoy Natural Resources. On February 7 2014, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that he will be appointed as ambassador of the Kingdom of the Netherlands to the Holy See.

Carolina
When Carolina was 6 years old her parents divorces. With her mother and siblings she moved to the Netherlands. If I am correct she did attend (and graduated) high school in the Netherlans.

Carolina studied political science at the University of Amsterdam and Harvard University. She also has an M.Sc. in Forced Migration from the University of Oxford. Carolina has had a career at the United Nations. For this organisation she was stationed at the UN headquarters in New York City, as well as problematic areas such as Eritrea, the Gaza Strip, and in Acheh (Indonesia) after the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. Carolina is currently employed at the United Nations in Geneva, in the Organisation for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).

Carolina is regulary present at important events of the Dutch Royal Family. In 2001 she was one of the maids of honor at the wedding of (her cousin) Constantijn and Laurentien. During the baptism of countess Eloise of Oranje-Nassau (eldest daughter of Constantijn & Laurentien) Carolina was named as the godmother. Carolina was also a witness at the church wedding of her cousin Floris. And in 2010 she was named as the godmother of Floris' second child Eliane.


Bernardo
Bernardo was born and raised in Wassenaar, near The Hague, the Netherlands. He moved to New York City in 1994 and has been living in there since.

In 1996, Bernardo attended Sarah Lawrence College where he studied philosophy and art history. Subsequently Bernardo studied industrial design at the prestigious Pratt Institute from 2002 to 2005.

Bernardo's work was selected for exhibition at Brooklyn Designs in 2005, and at the 2008 DWR Modern-Design-Function exhibit in New York. His work has been published in the May 2005 issue of the magazine Wallpaper where he has been described as one of 10 Most Wanted Designers, and in the December 2005 issue of ArtReview.

Bernardo design studio is based in the Brooklyn Navy Yard area where he and his friends work as a freelancer for the City of New York.


Nicolás
Apparently Nicolás moved to the USA in 1996, together with his older brother. On the moment I was not able to find (additional) information about is education and carreer.


Juliana
After finishing high school in the Netherlands Juliana studied at The Slade School of Fine Arts in London. Apparently Juliana earnes her money as a visual artist.

Juliana was named godmother of countess Leonore, youngest daughter of Constantijn & Laurentien. She was also one of the bridesmaids at the wedding of Willem-Alexander and Máxima in 2002.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 02:16:48 PM »

Beatrix
In April 1950, Beatrix entered the Incrementum, a part of Baarnsch Lyceum (in Baarn, the Netherlands), where, in 1956, she passed her school-graduation examinations in the subjects of arts and classics.

On 31 January 1956 Beatrix celebrated her 18th birthday. From that date, under the Constitution of the Netherlands, she was entitled to assume the Royal Prerogative. At that time, her mother installed her in the Council of State.

The same year her studies at Leiden University began. In her first years at the university, she studied sociology, jurisprudence, economics, parliamentary history and constitutional law. In the course of her studies she also attended lectures on the cultures of Suriname and the Netherlands Antilles, the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands, international affairs, international law, history and European law.

Beatrix also visited various European and international organisations in Geneva, Strasbourg, Paris, and Brussels. She was also an active member of the VVSL (Female Union for Students in Leiden), now called L.S.V. Minerva, after it had merged with the Leidsch Studenten Corps (which before then was male-only). In the summer of 1959, she passed her preliminary examination in law, and she obtained her law degree in July 1961

Also in 1961, Beatrix was initiator and chairman of a European working group which tried to motivate young Europeans to work for a united Europe. In the years after she took numerous representative obligations and undertook a number of trips, including to the Netherlands Antilles and Suriname.

Irene
After graduating high school Irene follows various courses at the University of Lausanne, Switzerland. Subsequently she studies Spanish language and literature for 4 years at the University of Utrecht. Then Irene went to Madrid, Spain, to improve her knowledge of the Spanish language and became proficient enough to become an official interpreter. In 1963 she passes the exam for official interpreter Spanish.

While studying Spanish in Madrid Irene met Carlos Hugo, Duke of Parma, eldest son Carlist pretender to the Spanish throne, Xavier of Bourbon-Parma. In 1963 Irene secretly converted from Protestatism (Dutch reformed) to Roman Catholicism. In 1964 it became know Irene was engaged to Carlos Hugo. Later that year they marry in Rome, Italy.


Margriet
In 1961 Margriet graduated at the Gymnasium-A Baarnsch Lyceum. After high school Margriet spent a year in France to follow lectures French and (art)history at the University of Montpellier. Subsequently she follows some preliminary legal lectures at the University of Leiden.

It was while she was studying at Leiden University that Margriet met her future husband, Pieter van Vollenhoven.

Christina
Her mother, Juliana, had contracted German measles during her pregnancy and as a result, Christina was born nearly blind. Over time, advances in medicine allowed for treatments that, with the aid of special glasses, brought about an improvement in her vision so that she could attend school and live a relatively normal life. Despite this initial handicap, she was a brilliant and happy child, with a considerable talent for music. She also had a capacity for languages and as a young girl delighted the visiting President of the French Republic, René Coty, by conversing fluently with him in the French language.

Christina studied from 1966 Education at the University of Groningen. Later she decided to acquire further skills outside the Netherlands. First, at the age of 21, Christina went to Canada where she attended a vocal training at a conservatory in Montreal. After a few years, she accepted a teaching position at a Montessori school in New York City. There, living under the name Christina van Oranje, she met and started a relationship with a Havana-born Cuban exile named Jorge Pérez y Guillermo, himself a teacher for the Addie May Collins Shelter of Harlem and a former hotelier. In 1975 Christina and Jorge were married in the Netherlands.
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