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« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2015, 06:13:58 PM »

The Duke and Duchess of York with their daughters Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret 12 July 1933





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These are wonderful. Smiley I absolutely LOVE seeing a young, carefree QE. And the interactions between daughters and parents is just lovely.

Wow does Edward look like his grandfather!  Bertie and Elizabeth could be Edward and Louise.
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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2015, 10:54:15 PM »

Was the QM considered a " catch" ?
She wasn't much in the looks department , though she had a beautiful smile. Was it a love match or what did she bring to the royal family?
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« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2015, 11:07:41 PM »

I think it was love, I read that Albert (George VI) proposed to her three times before she accepted.
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« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2015, 11:42:26 PM »

Thanks Mary Stewart! That's good to know  Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2015, 03:36:49 AM »

Was the QM considered a " catch" ?
She wasn't much in the looks department , though she had a beautiful smile. Was it a love match or what did she bring to the royal family?

She was considered a catch, particularly by the standards of Queen Mary and King George.  She had an impeccable pedigree.  She had no questionable past. And although she had a sense of fun, she was also conscious of her position and the responsibilities that went with it.  Many of Elizabeth's contemporaries following World War I were party-goers, were regulars at night clubs, and were generally frivolous and hedonistic.  Elizabeth was more old-fashioned about such things.  For all the qualities she had that King George and Queen Mary admired, they underestimated her in many other ways.
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« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2015, 03:40:27 AM »

Thanks Helena! I see her called a commoner and didn't know the whole deal
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« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2015, 04:28:03 AM »

Thanks Helena! I see her called a commoner and didn't know the whole deal

Technically, she was a commoner before she married the Duke of York, but she was an upper class commoner and the daughter of an aristocrat.   Smiley
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« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2015, 04:44:54 PM »

Thanks Helena! I see her called a commoner and didn't know the whole deal

Technically, she was a commoner before she married the Duke of York, but she was an upper class commoner and the daughter of an aristocrat.   Smiley

I like that Bertie chose to marry Elizabeth and not a foreign royal Princess, which I'm sure was on the cards had he not married Elizabeth.  He may have had slightly more "freedom" with his choice for a wife as he was not expected to be King, the same way that Andrew and Edward had more "choice" with their wife as opposed to Charles and Diana.
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« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2015, 09:06:41 PM »

Thanks Helena! I see her called a commoner and didn't know the whole deal

Technically, she was a commoner before she married the Duke of York, but she was an upper class commoner and the daughter of an aristocrat.   Smiley

I like that Bertie chose to marry Elizabeth and not a foreign royal Princess, which I'm sure was on the cards had he not married Elizabeth.  He may have had slightly more "freedom" with his choice for a wife as he was not expected to be King, the same way that Andrew and Edward had more "choice" with their wife as opposed to Charles and Diana.

George V and Mary lowered the bar after WWI, and announced that it would be acceptable if their children married someone from the British Isles. Mostly because of the thrones that tumbled in that time, but also because of the xenophobia - the public might have lost their minds if David or Bertie married a German princess. That same xenophobia lingered to the mid-1940s, when Philip and Elizabeth were courting, even though he was a Greek prince with connections to the Danish Royal Family. Philip was the last of the 'blue-blood princely kind' to marry into the BRF.

I'd love to see Harry marry a princess of somewhere, though, just to put people in a tizzy.
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« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2015, 09:37:02 PM »

She's a little young but Princess Alexandra of Luxembourg is so pretty and normal acting.
I know that Greek blonde twat who thinks she's Paris Hilton is more his type but think what a great job Alex could do!
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« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2015, 09:44:16 PM »

No chance here. No way that the kids would not be catholic and I assume this would be a problem for the BRF. But the old GD Jean might like the idea since he has a good relationship with the BRF (he often took part at her birthday parade as a member of the Irish guards)
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« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2015, 05:32:48 PM »

No chance here. No way that the kids would not be catholic and I assume this would be a problem for the BRF. But the old GD Jean might like the idea since he has a good relationship with the BRF (he often took part at her birthday parade as a member of the Irish guards)

Not anymore, not since they passed the new succession act. Now that doesn't mean the BRF might not have a cow behind closed doors if it ever happened, but it's not legally a hurdle anymore.

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« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2015, 01:37:58 AM »

 

I couldn't remember her name, but I figured y'all would know who I meant!
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« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2015, 09:10:09 AM »

No chance here. No way that the kids would not be catholic and I assume this would be a problem for the BRF. But the old GD Jean might like the idea since he has a good relationship with the BRF (he often took part at her birthday parade as a member of the Irish guards)

Not anymore, not since they passed the new succession act. Now that doesn't mean the BRF might not have a cow behind closed doors if it ever happened, but it's not legally a hurdle anymore.

Cordtx: "that Greek blonde twat" - hahahahaha!  Laughing But goodness, could you imagine Tino's orgasm if that happened? Lord preserve us from that fate.
Seriously, he might blow up. As much as I would hate that, the family dynamics with the ExMajs from Greek, the Millers from Texas and the Middletons fighting for pole positions would be fabulous.
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« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2015, 08:59:55 PM »

Prince Charles said just before he married Diana that his grandparents (meaning the QM and King) marriage was an arranged marriage and that turned out to be one of the happiest marriages he'd seen.  He was suggesting that his marriage was arranged but he believed they'd be happy.
From what I've read Bertie was enamoured with Elizabeth but it was (at first) unrequited.  She herself was interested in Edward/David and wanted to marry him.  At least thats what David claimed - "she was rather too fond of me".  However Bertie persisted and after turning his proposal down twice, she agreed the third time.
It did turn into love match with time though.
The King wrote in a letter to his daughter that his wife was "the most wonderful woman in the world to me".  I think thats the quote.

There have been rumours that their children were conceived artificially because he was impotent or because "she didn't like sex" but there are always rumours about royal births.
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