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« Reply #255 on: October 29, 2021, 12:40:38 PM »

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George I (Greek: Γεώργιος Α΄, Geórgios I)( 24 December 1845 – 18 March 1913) was King of Greece from 30 March 1863 until his assassination in 1913.

Originally a Danish prince, named Vilhelm, he was born in Copenhagen, and seemed destined for a career in the Royal Danish Navy. He was only 17 years old when he was elected king by the Greek National Assembly, which had deposed the unpopular Otto of Bavaria.

His nomination was both suggested and supported by the Great Powers: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, the Second French Empire and the Russian Empire. He married Grand Duchess Olga Constantinovna of Russia in 1867, and became the first monarch of a new Greek dynasty. George and Olga had 8 children.

Due to the ancestry of George I the family was 'of Greece and Denmark'.


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Constantine I (Greek: Κωνσταντίνος Αʹ, Konstantínos I)(2 August [O.S. 21 July] 1868 – 11 January 1923) was King of Greece from 18 March 1913 to 11 June 1917 and from 19 December 1920 to 27 September 1922. Constantine was the eldest son of King George I and Queen Olga. His birth was met with an immense wave of enthusiasm: the new heir apparent to the throne was the first Greek-born member of the family.

As Crown Prince of Greece, Constantine married Princess Sophia of Prussia, a granddaughter of Queen Victoria and sister of Kaiser Wilhelm II, on 27 October 1889 in Athens. They had six children. All three of their sons ascended the Greek throne.


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George II (Greek: Γεώργιος Βʹ, Geórgios II)(19 July [O.S: 7 July] 1890 – 1 April 1947)[2] was King of Greece from September 1922 to March 1924 and from November 1935 to his death in April 1947. The eldest son of King Constantine I and Sophia of Prussia. George followed his father into exile in 1917 following the National Schism, while his younger brother Alexander was installed as king.

He married his second cousin, on 27 February 1921 in Bucharest, Princess Elisabeth of Romania, daughter of King Ferdinand and Queen Marie of Romania. They had no children

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Alexander (Greek: Αλέξανδρος, Aléxandros)( 1 August 1893 – 25 October 1920) was King of Greece from 11 June 1917 until his death three years later, at the age of 27, from the effects of a monkey bite. The second son of King Constantine I, Alexander was born in the summer palace of Tatoi on the outskirts of Athens. He succeeded his father in 1917, during World War I, after the Entente Powers and the followers of Eleftherios Venizelos pushed Constantine I, and his eldest son Crown Prince George, into exile.

On 12 June 1917, the day after his accession, Alexander revealed his liaison with Aspasia Manos to his father and asked for his permission to marry her. Constantine was reluctant to let his son marry a non-royal, and demanded that Alexander wait until the end of the war before considering the engagement, to which Alexander agreed. In the intervening months, Alexander increasingly resented his separation from his family. His regular letters to his parents were intercepted by the government and confiscated. Alexander's only source of comfort was Aspasia, and he decided to marry her despite his father's request. The ruling dynasty of Greece (the House of Glücksburg) was of German-Danish origin, and Constantine and Sophia were seen as far too German by the Venizelists, but even though the marriage of the king to a Greek presented an opportunity to Hellenize the royal family, and counter criticisms that it was a foreign institution, both Venizelists and Constantinists opposed the match. The Venizelists feared it would give Alexander a means to communicate with his exiled family through Colonel Manos and both sides of the political divide were unhappy at the king marrying a commoner With the help of Aspasia's brother-in-law, Christo Zalocostas, and after three unsuccessful attempts, the couple eventually married in secret before a royal chaplain, Archimandrite Zacharistas, on the evening of 17 November 1919,.

Despite his disapproval of the union, Venizelos allowed Aspasia and her mother to move into the Royal Palace on condition that the marriage remain secret. The information leaked, however, and to escape public opprobrium Aspasia was forced to leave Greece. She fled to Rome, and then to Paris, where Alexander was allowed to join her, six months later, on condition that they did not attend official functions together. The government allowed the couple to return to Greece in mid-1920. Although their marriage was legalized, Aspasia was not recognized as queen, but was instead known as "Madame Manos". At first, she stayed at her sister's house in the Greek capital before transferring to Tatoi, and it was during this period that she became pregnant with Alexander's child. Alexander's daughter by Aspasia Manos, Alexandra (1921–1993), was born five months after his death. Initially, the government took the line that since Alexander had married Aspasia without the permission of his father or the church, his marriage was illegal and his posthumous daughter was illegitimate. However, in July 1922, Parliament passed a law which allowed the King to recognize royal marriages retroactively on a non-dynastic basis. That September, Constantine—at Sophia's insistence—recognized his son's marriage to Aspasia and granted her the style of "Princess Alexander". Her daughter (Constantine I's granddaughter) was legitimized as a princess of Greece and Denmark, and later married King Peter II of Yugoslavia in London in 1944. They had one child: Alexander, Crown Prince of Yugoslavia


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Paul (Greek: Παύλος, Pávlos)(14 December 1901 – 6 March 1964) was King of Greece from 1 April 1947 until his death in 1964.

Paul was born on 14 December 1901 at Tatoi Palace in Athens, the third son of King Constantine I of Greece and his wife, Princess Sophia of Prussia. From 1917 to 1920, Paul lived in exile with his father, Constantine I. From 1923 to 1935, he lived in exile again in England, this time with his brother, George II.

On 9 January 1938, Paul married Princess Frederica of Hanover, his first cousin once removed through Frederick III, German Emperor, and Victoria, Princess Royal, and second cousin through Christian IX of Denmark, in Athens. They had three children


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Constantine II (Greek: Κωνσταντίνος Βʹ, Konstantínos II)(2 June 1940) reigned as the last King of Greece, from 6 March 1964 until the abolition of the Greek monarchy on 1 June 1973.

Constantine is the only son of King Paul and Queen Frederica of Greece. As his family was forced into exile during the Second World War, he spent the first years of his childhood in Egypt and South Africa. He returned to Greece with his family in 1946 during the Greek Civil War. King George II died in 1947, and Constantine's father became the new king, making Constantine the crown prince. He acceded as king in 1964 following the death of his father, King Paul. Later that year he married Princess Anne-Marie of Denmark with whom he eventually had five children.

Although the accession of the young monarch was initially regarded auspiciously, his reign saw political instability that culminated in the Colonels' Coup of 21 April 1967. The coup left Constantine, as the head of state, little room to manoeuvre since he had no loyal military forces on which to rely. As a result, he reluctantly agreed to inaugurate the junta on the condition that it be made up largely of civilian ministers. On 13 December 1967, Constantine was forced to flee the country, following an unsuccessful countercoup against the junta. He remained (formally) the head of state in exile until the junta abolished the monarchy on 1 June 1973. The 1973 Greek republic referendum on 29 July, ratified the abolition. There were questions concerning the validity of this referendum and whether people were pressured to vote for a republic. Therefore a fresh referendum was held after the restoration of democracy in 1974. This second referendum was held after the fall of the junta as the 1974 Greek republic referendum on 8 December 1974 and confirmed the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of the Third Hellenic Republic. Constantine, who was not allowed to return to Greece to campaign, accepted the results of the plebiscite.
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« Reply #256 on: October 29, 2021, 01:11:20 PM »

Princess Alexia of Greece and Denmark; Mrs Morales

Princess Alexia was born on July 10, 1965, at the Greek royal family’s villa, Mon Repos, on the island of Corfu. (It’s the same home where the Duke of Edinburgh had been born four decades earlier.) At the time of her birth, Alexia’s parents reigned in Greece as King Constantine II and Queen Anne-Marie. As she was the first child, she was Crown Princess Alexia when she was born. She was the first grandchild of King Frederik IX and Queen Ingrid of Denmark, and the third of King Paul and Queen Friederike of the Hellenes (after Infantas Elena and Cristina of Spain). King Frederik flew to Corfu to meet his granddaughter only a few days after her birth. During her first press conference with reporters, held in the gardens of Mon Repos, Alexia cried as photographers snapped pictures, until her father “tickled her under the chin.”


The new royal baby’s name was officially announced by Metropolitan Methodios of Corfu during a service of thanksgiving at the island’s cathedral, with both King Constantine and his mother, Queen Friederike, in attendance. Greek courtiers told the press that Alexia was named for “the Byzantine Emperor Alexius, who ruled from 1081 to 1118.” The Associated Press added that the name was a favorite of the late King Paul, who had planned to name his youngest daughter Alexia, but as she was born during World War II, christened her Irene (Greek for “peace”) instead.

Baby Alexia was baptized at the Royal Palace in September 1965, with Queen Friederike and the entire Greek army serving as godparents.



Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece,

He was born 20 May 1967 and is the eldest son and second child of Constantine II, the last King of Greece from 1964 to 1973 and his wife, Anne-Marie of Denmark.

By Greek tradition, he was named for his paternal grandfather, King Paul (Pavlos) of the Hellenes. Crown Prince Pavlos was baptized into the Greek Orthodox Church, with Charles, Prince of Wales (King Constantine’s second cousin), as one of his godparents.

Pavlos was born into a turbulent era in Greek politics. His father, King Constantine II, ascended to the throne on 6 March 1964, aged 23, following the death of his father, King Paul. Pavlos was born barely a month after the coup d'état which ended democratic rule in Greece over the King's objections on 21 April 1967, ushering in the "Regime of the Colonels", led by Georgios Papadopoulos. In December of that year, King Constantine attempted a counter-coup, but could not rally sufficient military support. Pursued by supporters of the junta, the King fled with his wife, children, mother and sister to Rome. From Rome they went to Copenhagen, and lived with Queen Anne-Marie's mother, Queen Ingrid.

During the years 1967–1973, Greece remained officially a monarchy, with a regency appointed while the King lived in exile. On 1 June 1973, Constantine II was declared deposed and Georgios Papadopoulos became the self-appointed President of Greece.

On 17 November 1974, the 1974 Greek legislative election was held, resulting in a victory for Constantine Karamanlis and his New Democracy party. Less than a month later, on 8 December, the Greek plebiscite of 1974 confirmed a referendum of the previous year: the majority of Greek voters preferred a republican constitution (69%) to restoration of the monarchy (31%).

Constantine II accepted that his reign was at an end. He and Anne Marie had been living with their family in London for several years. Pavlos's youngest siblings were born in London, Theodora in 1983 and Philippos in 1986.



Prince Nikolaos of Greece and Denmark

He was born 1 October 1969 and is the third child of Constantine II and Anne-Marie of Denmark

Nikolaos was born at Casa di Cura Privata Nuova Villa Claudia in Rome, Italy, on 1 October 1969; He is first royal child to be born in hospital from Constantine II of Greece and Anne-Marie of Denmark, His family had been living in exile since December 1967. His father was deposed in 1973 and the monarchy abolished 8 December 1974.

He was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church. His godparents were Princess Sofía, Princess of Spain (his elder paternal aunt), Princess Irene of Greece and Denmark (his younger paternal aunt), Crown Princess Margareta of Romania (his paternal second cousin), and Crown Prince Alexander of Yugoslavia (his paternal second cousin)



Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark


Theodora was born on 9 June 1983 at St Mary's Hospital, London. She is the younger daughter and fourth of the five children of the deposed Greek King Constantine II and Princess Anne-Marie of Denmark.

Her godparents were  Queen Margrethe II of Denmark (maternal aunt), Queen Elizabeth II of GB, King Michael of Romania and  Crown Prince Alexander of Serbia





Prince Philippos of Greece and Denmark

Philippos was born at St Mary's Hospital, London on 26 April 1986, the son of King Constantine II and Queen Anne-Marie of Greece. As the youngest child and 3rd son.

He was baptized in the Greek Orthodox Church at Saint Sophia Cathedral, London, on 10 July 1986, with King Juan Carlos I of Spain, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Diana, Princess of Wales, Infanta Elena of Spain, Princess Benedikte of Denmark, Kyril, Prince of Preslav and Penelope, Lady Romsey serving as godparents







Princess Maria-Olympia of Greece and Denmark

Princess Maria-Olympia of Greece and Denmark was born on 25 July 1996 at Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York City to Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece and his wife, Marie-Chantal Miller.

She was baptized in the Greek Orthodox Church by Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople at the Church of St. George in Istanbul, Turkey on 22 December 1996. Her godparents are her paternal aunt Princess Alexia of Greece and Denmark, her maternal aunt Pia Getty, her grandfather's second cousin The Prince of Wales, and Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark.



Prince Constantine Alexios of Greece and Denmark

He was born on 29 October 1998 at Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York City, as the 2nd child and oldest son of Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece and his wife, Marie-Chantal Miller.

Constantine Alexios was christened in a Greek Orthodox ceremony at St. Sophia's Cathedral, London, on 15 April 1999. His godparents are Prince Nikolaos of Greece and Denmark (paternal uncle); Prince Dimitri of Yugoslavia; Frederik, Crown Prince of Denmark (1st cousin of his father); King Felipe VI of Spain (1st cousin of his father); Prince William, Duke of Cambridge; Victoria, Crown Princess of Sweden; Princess Alexandra zu Fürstenberg (maternal aunt); and Doris Robbs.



Prince Achileas-Andreas of Greece and Denmark

He was born in August 2000 in New York, as the 3rd child and 2nd son of Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece and his wife, Marie-Chantal Miller.

His godparents are Princess Theodora of Greece (paternal aunt), Infanta Elena of Spain (1st cousin of his father), Prince Alexandré zu Furstenberg (maternal uncle), Crown Prince Kardam of Bulgaria, Princess Rosario of Bulgaria, Prince Guillaume of Luxembourg, and Veronica Toub.



Prince Odysseas-Kimon of Greece and Denmark

He was born in 2004 as the 4th child and 3rd son of Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece and his wife, Marie-Chantal Miller.

His godparents are Prince Philippos of Greece (paternal uncle), Princess Alexandra of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg (1st cousin of his father), Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway, Nassos Thanopoulos, Arki Busson, and Chris Thomsen.



Prince Aristidis-Stavros of Greece and Denmark

He was born in 2008 as the 5th & youngest child (also 4th son) of Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece and his wife, Marie-Chantal Miller.

His godparents are Prince Kyril of Bulgaria, Countess Debbie von Bismarck, Don Francesco Moncada di Principi di Paterno, Spyros Niarchos, Stavros Livanos, Aristide Faggionato and Infanta Cristina of Spain (1st cousin of his father).


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« Reply #257 on: October 29, 2021, 01:56:11 PM »

New member here--but I've read for a few years.  Several comments--feel free to tell me if I should post in another way.

Loved the Greek dancing by Nina and P.  She does have poor fashion taste, but she is not a fashionista.  She does her own thing.   I read  somewhere that her mother and half sister  (I am assuming) "the bride's family" were some of the more nicely dressed--I agree. Very appropriate--not showy. I only saw one of the two of them together.  Her mother has worked for Vogue so a little guidance would have been nice, but whatever.

I think they will be very happy together.  He smiled more than I have ever seen. He has always been a private person and now they can hide out in Switzerland (?) together. I have read that he was the serious brother -and he hardly ever smiles.  Some people don't.  Nina seems to be  a warm and loving person so maybe he'll lighten up.  I believe he is the most intellectual of the three brothers and she is a cut above most.  She majored in global studies and the environment in college.  As creative director of VistaJet (her father's airline) she was responsible for putting books on the airplanes.  And at the Kisawa Sanctuary resort--her project in Mozambique ($5000. a night I have read) she wanted a library.  At the eco friendly resort there is a research facility to study the sea animals (or something environmental).  The income from the resort is supposed to fund the research center. The resort won a National Geographic award.  She came from a broken home and I believe she will enjoy the family atmosphere.  Anne Marie, Alexia and Theo seem very warm.  Alexia and her husband always look happy and it was nice to see their beautiful family who are seldom seen (in contrast to MC, MO).  If my comments are  interesting to you I'll write more later.  I do have some questions.




Hi and wecome!!!!!!!
Alexia is my favourite and I agree she always seems so warm and kind.
I wish we could get more of her but she obviously values a lot her privace and her family life.
I just wish we could get to know her better but, on the other hand, thank God she's not another (ex) royal who doesn't seen herself as a celebrity!
That's rear!
I enjoy every time we get a glimpse of Anne Marie, she seems truly kind.

My bf commented on the wedding and he was furious. He doesn't like monarchy at all, he of course thought it was a showing-off and he's pretty much annoyed they call themeselves greeks but don't speek greek flluently or they're not truly familiar with greek customs and greek lifestyle.
I'd like to add here that an average greek lifestyle is also based on the hard financial conditions that the average greek person has to deal with, so it's not only their "foreigner's" background, it's also their wealth that allows them to not experience the negative side of being a greek, living in Greece.
I'll stop here because apart for the genera info, I start going off topic.

I don’t really see them as Greek... the ex King has Danish background.... the “original king was danish” but I appreciate that the family from him lived there for a long time... he married AM  a Danish princess.... they had to leave Greece and lived in Uk for decades... how long do they get to call themselves “Greek and Denmark” and the grandchildren and soon more in future generations?

They aren’t a Danish family and they don’t act it either.

They will have the Danish titles forever, I guess, but they are meaningless by now.
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« Reply #258 on: October 29, 2021, 07:19:41 PM »

Thanks for the welcome. This is probably the only forum I will post on  (maybe).  A few of my thoughts.  I also think it was in poor taste for the MC family to not attend the day after brunch.  MC likes to be in the limelight and she made her big appearance at the wedding.  One reason the GRF is often in the media is because of her and now here comes MO--both great at posturing. 

Does anyone really think that MO and Perry are a real couple or are they just hanging out together? In MC's eyes he would be the perfect catch--heir to the Cowdrey fortune and a minor title.  I am older and remember the "Miller Sisters" from the 90's.  All three looking for a prince or wealth--they all found it--and two are divorced.  Google "The Miller Cousins" in Vanity Fair--sort of an update. I am sure MC is "educating" her children in the same way. 

Any thoughts here?  I have wondered why Philippos stayed in the U.S. after graduating from Georgetown.  All his family were in London where he was born and raised--maybe Theo was in U.S. because she wanted to be an actress.  He certainly had connections in London (Chandris family for one) if he wanted to be in finance. Hiding out from the media or avoiding the stuffiness of the Brits?

Speaking of Chandris, did anyone see pictures of Theodora Warre Chandris (Nina's best friend) at the wedding?
  She would not be seeking the limelight like Alice Naylor-Leyland.  You couldn't  miss Alice  posturing in her yellow dress and advertising Emilia Wickstead.  No one wears light yellow in the fall unless you  want to stand out in the crowd!!!!  LOVES THE MEDIA!! Disgusting. I think she is one of the stuffy Brits.  She is the one who gave the "second" wedding for N and P in June.  That was blasted all over the media and the stupid media is STILL calling it the second wedding--it was a week-end party!!!
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« Reply #259 on: October 29, 2021, 08:11:34 PM »

I wonder if Peregrine would be MC's first choice for Olympia. His family is worth £224 million but he has five siblings. He and Olympia live together in London but she may want to settle down near her family in the US. Peregrine will inherit the family estate so he's tied to the UK.

I spotted Theodora Warre in one of Alice Naylor-Leyland's Instagram stories from the wedding Smiley
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« Reply #260 on: October 29, 2021, 09:51:04 PM »

Where did you see the stories about the wedding on Alice's website?  A private website? Thanks.
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« Reply #261 on: October 29, 2021, 10:15:32 PM »

On Instagram but it was a story so it's gone now Smiley
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« Reply #262 on: October 29, 2021, 11:06:21 PM »

I wonder if Peregrine would be MC's first choice for Olympia. His family is worth £224 million but he has five siblings. He and Olympia live together in London but she may want to settle down near her family in the US. Peregrine will inherit the family estate so he's tied to the UK.

I spotted Theodora Warre in one of Alice Naylor-Leyland's Instagram stories from the wedding Smiley

Remind me about Peregrine's family and their family estate, pls. Hug

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« Reply #263 on: October 30, 2021, 12:45:59 AM »

He is the son and heir of the 4th Viscount Cowdray (so he will one day be Viscount Cowdray). TBH it seems the family sold the "family seat" off, or at least converted it into flats and the Viscount lives in a small property now so I'm not sure how tied to the UK they would be. Yes they still have the estate to run but not a huge house to maintain or worry about.

The family's money in recent times comes from their links to Pearson's the education publishers. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/...son,_4th_Viscount_Cowdray
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« Reply #264 on: October 30, 2021, 01:02:59 AM »

Peregrine's family still owns Cowdray House. Looks like they hire it out for events:
https://www.cowdray.co.uk...ent-venues/cowdray-house/
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« Reply #265 on: November 02, 2021, 03:23:04 AM »

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