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« Reply #150 on: January 18, 2017, 12:35:48 PM »

I don't think Jaime had haemophilia (he died at 66), only Alfonso and Gonzalo.

Here's some sort of map about the whole thing:

http://www.englishmonarch...images/various/haem1v.jpg

Another one

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« Reply #151 on: January 18, 2017, 12:58:46 PM »

Because the hemophilia gene usually remains "hidden" in females who only inherit the gene from one parent, and female descendants of Victoria have left many descendants in royal and noble families, there remains a small chance that the disease could appear again, especially among the female-line Spanish descendants of Princess Beatrice.

> Infanta Beatriz's two sons were not affected by the disease. Beatriz's eldest daughter, Sandra, has two children, a son and daughter. Her son is not affected, and her daughter has two sons, who are apparently unaffected. Beatriz's youngest daughter, Olimpia, had six children; her two eldest daughters, Beatrice and Sibilla are both married with children, none of whom, in the case of their sons, appear to be hemophiliacs. If Sibilla's descendants were to express or transmit the gene, however, another reigning dynasty of Europe would, in the 21st century, join the rest of the reigning families that inherited the disease from Queen Victoria. Olimpia's youngest daughters are still unmarried, but there is still a chance they could be carriers. Another daughter, Laura, died as a child, as did her only son, Paul, the latter of whom was apparently not a hemophiliac.

> Infanta Maria Cristina had four daughters, all potential carriers. Her eldest daughter, Vittoria Eugenie, had a daughter and three sons, the latter all apparently unaffected. The Infanta's second daughter, Giovanna, had only one child, an unaffected son. Her two youngest daughters, Donna Maria Teresa and Donna Anna Sandra, also have only daughters. Of these, only one, Maria Teresa's second daughter, Isabel, is married, but she also has only a daughter. There is a chance the disease may remain in this branch of Princess Beatrice's descendants.

In the overview Suzerain posted Beatriz and Maria Christina are shown with two X, indicating they are no carrier of the affected gene(s). But there is still a change one of them or both are carriers. It couldn't be ruled out completely yet, there is a (very) small chance.

Victoria Eugenie also had a stillborn son, Fernando, who could have been a hemophiliac.

Maurice Battenberg (son of carrier princess Beatrice) being a hemophiliac has been disputed, among others as he was allowed active service in the army (which seems to be unlikely for a "known" hemophiliac)

Another Maurice, the 2nd son of Alice of Albany (= daughter of hemophiliac prince Leopold), died in infancy,  so it is not (100%) known if he was a sufferer

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« Reply #152 on: January 18, 2017, 02:02:46 PM »

Poryphria didn't disappear after Victoria. Prince William of Gloucester was diagnosed with it before his death, a fact admitted by his mother and Princess Margaret. It was also inherited by some of her Prussian descendants through the Princess Royal.
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« Reply #153 on: January 18, 2017, 02:17:09 PM »

Poryphria didn't disappear after Victoria. Prince William of Gloucester was diagnosed with it before his death, a fact admitted by his mother and Princess Margaret. It was also inherited by some of her Prussian descendants through the Princess Royal.

Correct, but some in the past suggested that this disease was not present (and/or seen) anymore after QV. Thereby indirect suggesting that QV wasn't a biological child of the Duke of Kent (and therefore not  legitimate for the throne.) As mentioned before both the poryphria and hemophilia suggestion have been refuted.

Edit: after some additional reading I found the comment that ancestors of the British royals (in particular "mad" king George III) had suffered from poryphria is a hypothesis. In 2010, an exhaustive analysis of historical records concluded that the porphyria claim was based on spurious and selective interpretation of contemporary medical and historical sources
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« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2017, 12:55:44 PM »

A N Wilson who made the suggestion about Victoria has since retracted it
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