Please read here on how to use images on RoyalDish. - Please read the RoyalDish message on board purpose and rules.
Images containing full nudity or sexual activities are strongly forbidden on RoyalDish.


Pages: 1 ... 52 53 [54] 55   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: William the not so charming  (Read 349364 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Gemsheal

Huge Member
********

Reputation: 774

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 2365





Ignore
« Reply #795 on: March 10, 2022, 01:51:45 PM »

This verbal kerfuffle of W's is a prime example of my firm belief that royals should show up, smile, look professional, and even look sympathetic - but, shut themselves up after saying "thank you for your hard work."
Logged

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant."

~ Robert Louis Stevenson
Zazoo

Small Member
****

Reputation: 227

Offline Offline

Cyprus Cyprus

Posts: 579





Ignore
« Reply #796 on: March 10, 2022, 02:03:31 PM »

Posted just now.

Robert Jobson@theroyaleditor
William on Ukraine ďEveryone is horrified by what they are seeing. Itís really horrifying. The news every day, itís just, itís almost unfathomable. For our generation, itís very alien to see this in Europe. Weíre all right behind you. Weíre thinking about you. We feel so uselessĒ

Robert Jobson
@theroyaleditor

I am simply saying what he actually said. Not correcting anybody. They will have to change their online posts when they see and hear what he said.

Video
https://twitter.com/Lizzi...;t=zc2BSKFtqtOE66xhCL0xcw
Posted just now.

Robert Jobson@theroyaleditor
William on Ukraine ďEveryone is horrified by what they are seeing. Itís really horrifying. The news every day, itís just, itís almost unfathomable. For our generation, itís very alien to see this in Europe. Weíre all right behind you. Weíre thinking about you. We feel so uselessĒ

Robert Jobson
@theroyaleditor

I am simply saying what he actually said. Not correcting anybody. They will have to change their online posts when they see and hear what he said.

Video
https://twitter.com/Lizzi...;t=zc2BSKFtqtOE66xhCL0xcw


If this is his quote then is slightly better that I thought, but personal opinion is that although he may not experience all the wars in recent times. He is to be a head of state of a country that is extremely diverse and yes some of his future Ď subjectsí are people that have fled these wars.
In general i see, me included, somehow a more violent reaction to this war from Europeans  because is in our backyard and our lives are directly influenced, and while countries rally, rightly so to help Ukrainian refugees, we forgot that south Europe is overwhelmed with refugees from the Syrian,afghani etc wars that recently happened. Just an observation not a judgement.
@Maria I search it but I canít find anything on greek or international news about crete what happened?
Logged

"Happiness can be found, even in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light." ? Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Maria
Administrator
Most Exalted Member
************

Reputation: 4378

Offline Offline

Posts: 22698




« Reply #797 on: March 10, 2022, 02:49:43 PM »

Nothing happened to Crete. I have unfortunately mixed it up with Cyprus.. where there has been a conflict for many years. We have had minor violent conflicts, major violent conflicts, various terrorist groups both of political, nationalist and religious kinds. Different European countries have and are participating in UN-lead or US-lead wars. Those living in eastern Europe know of the Russian threat especially, those in the south know especially about the many fleeing from Syria, Afghanistan and various countries in Africa. If you cannot look at the European reaction to Russia invading Ukraine and see the significant difference, I donít know what to say. Perhaps research European history a bit because itís not just William reacting like this.
Logged
Paulina

Warned
Humongous Member
**********

Reputation: 1178

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 5062





Ignore
« Reply #798 on: March 10, 2022, 03:03:47 PM »

I think something that makes the current situation even more nerve wracking is that in basically a week these things were on the table for overturning: 500 years of Swiss neutrality and Swedish and Finnish possible membership in NATO.

With the Yugoslavia breakup, also in Europe, the conflict didnít really spill over to neighboring countries. Refugees did, yes.

This is an invasion and does seem eerily with parallels to when the Soviets went capturing birding countries to form the Iron Curtain.

And somehow worse now.

I think William is simply more aware of the world and whatís going on now. Heís older. When Yugoslavia was warring, he was a cosseted royal kid in an insular world of aristocrats dealing with his parents very public breakup and not terribly long afterward, his motherís very public death.

Iíve been watching great British castles and warring for land and dominance and resources has been going on for a very long time.

William will have to learn what he can or should express publicly versus privately because the most seemingly innocuous comment can create an international incident. Granny has been a master of discretion, herself.



Logged

The problem with incompetent, corrupt, fascist government is incompetence, corruption and fascism,  not government (Jerome ŗ Paris - paraphrased)
Maria
Administrator
Most Exalted Member
************

Reputation: 4378

Offline Offline

Posts: 22698




« Reply #799 on: March 10, 2022, 03:07:28 PM »

Germany decided to end the policy on military intervention and are raising their military budget. All of Europe cheered. That says it all.
Logged
Paulina

Warned
Humongous Member
**********

Reputation: 1178

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 5062





Ignore
« Reply #800 on: March 10, 2022, 03:15:02 PM »

Yes, Germany! I knew I was forgetting something. Thatís HUGE.
Logged

The problem with incompetent, corrupt, fascist government is incompetence, corruption and fascism,  not government (Jerome ŗ Paris - paraphrased)
Pomme

Gigantic Member
*********

Reputation: 1531

Online Online

Netherlands Netherlands

Posts: 3650


Mary who?




Ignore
« Reply #801 on: March 10, 2022, 03:43:42 PM »

Germany decided to end the policy on military intervention and are raising their military budget. All of Europe cheered. That says it all.

Exactly.
A policy they diligently adhered to since ww2.

Recent European warfare was 'local'.
Atrocious, yes. Ongoing, yes.

But none of the factions/countries involved threatened to attack any country (outside the prime aim of the conflict) that opposed them, none threatened to use nuclear weapons, vacuum bombs  or chemical weapons. None of them was interested in world domination.

Russia was a threat that always loomed in the east, with its huge nuclear arsenal. I grew up with that threat. We were always weary of Russia, and in now way felt it could be a trustworthy ally.
After the Soviet Union crumbled, many things stayed the same. It was just different people pulling the strings and racking in the billions. There was never real freedom, free press, democracy (well, not in the ways 'the West' defines it, many different interpretations of democracy in our part of the world...).

Putin is KGB and grew up in Soviet times. No matter what he pretends to be, he embodies the worst of the totalitarian, dictatorial, power hungry aspects that defined the Soviet Union.

Knowing that he doesn't like opposition or defeat, the risk of this war turning into a multi-country conflict is huge. And the parallels with 1933 and beyond are striking.

« Last Edit: March 10, 2022, 04:22:07 PM by Pomme » Logged

Talk to the hair, you slitherin' Skank
http://i.imgur.com/2mUIe.jpg
Zazoo

Small Member
****

Reputation: 227

Offline Offline

Cyprus Cyprus

Posts: 579





Ignore
« Reply #802 on: March 10, 2022, 03:51:49 PM »

If I can been honest with you there is a weird feeling in Cyprus right now. There is a resentment about how Europe had handled our situation then and how it continues handles it now. Cyprus is one of the countries that is very much entangled with Russia, for better or for worse. And we are preparing to enter another economical turmoil, being small country etc.Also because unfortunately we saw too much war around us being so close to middle east and hosting so many refugees at times we became so used to it .That doesnít mean that we donít sympathize  with the Ukrainian, or any other refugees or that we are not outraged with the Russian politicians.
I understand why itís deferent, what brought us here and the implications.
Just voiceing an opinion, sorry if it came wrong not my intention
Logged

"Happiness can be found, even in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light." ? Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Lady Willoughby

Warned
Humongous Member
**********

Reputation: 1746

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 5352


Circa Regna Tonat




Ignore
« Reply #803 on: March 10, 2022, 04:16:07 PM »

If I can been honest with you there is a weird feeling in Cyprus right now. There is a resentment about how Europe had handled our situation then and how it continues handles it now. Cyprus is one of the countries that is very much entangled with Russia, for better or for worse. And we are preparing to enter another economical turmoil, being small country etc.Also because unfortunately we saw too much war around us being so close to middle east and hosting so many refugees at times we became so used to it .That doesnít mean that we donít sympathize  with the Ukrainian, or any other refugees or that we are not outraged with the Russian politicians.
I understand why itís deferent, what brought us here and the implications.
Just voiceing an opinion, sorry if it came wrong not my intention

This is why I just canít quit RD. I love getting perspectives from all around the world Zazoo. I appreciate your post.
Logged

Hester
Board Helper
Warned
Most Exalted Member
************

Reputation: 2833

Offline Offline

Samoa Samoa

Posts: 16385





Ignore
« Reply #804 on: March 10, 2022, 10:33:33 PM »

So glad to see Williamís actual words rather than what appears to be a confection by who knows who.

His actual words one more time:  ďEveryone is horrified by what they are seeing. Itís really horrifying. The news every day, itís just, itís almost unfathomable. For our generation, itís very alien to see this in Europe. Weíre all right behind you. Weíre thinking about you. We feel so uselessĒ
Logged
Paulina

Warned
Humongous Member
**********

Reputation: 1178

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 5062





Ignore
« Reply #805 on: March 10, 2022, 10:52:22 PM »

If I can been honest with you there is a weird feeling in Cyprus right now. There is a resentment about how Europe had handled our situation then and how it continues handles it now. Cyprus is one of the countries that is very much entangled with Russia, for better or for worse. And we are preparing to enter another economical turmoil, being small country etc.Also because unfortunately we saw too much war around us being so close to middle east and hosting so many refugees at times we became so used to it .That doesnít mean that we donít sympathize  with the Ukrainian, or any other refugees or that we are not outraged with the Russian politicians.
I understand why itís deferent, what brought us here and the implications.
Just voiceing an opinion, sorry if it came wrong not my intention

This is why I just canít quit RD. I love getting perspectives from all around the world Zazoo. I appreciate your post.

Me, too, Zazoo.
Logged

The problem with incompetent, corrupt, fascist government is incompetence, corruption and fascism,  not government (Jerome ŗ Paris - paraphrased)
Cordelia Fitzgerald

Huge Member
********

Reputation: 686

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 2664





Ignore
« Reply #806 on: March 11, 2022, 12:25:43 AM »

If I can been honest with you there is a weird feeling in Cyprus right now. There is a resentment about how Europe had handled our situation then and how it continues handles it now. Cyprus is one of the countries that is very much entangled with Russia, for better or for worse. And we are preparing to enter another economical turmoil, being small country etc.Also because unfortunately we saw too much war around us being so close to middle east and hosting so many refugees at times we became so used to it .That doesnít mean that we donít sympathize  with the Ukrainian, or any other refugees or that we are not outraged with the Russian politicians.
I understand why itís deferent, what brought us here and the implications.
Just voiceing an opinion, sorry if it came wrong not my intention

This is why I just canít quit RD. I love getting perspectives from all around the world Zazoo. I appreciate your post.

Me, too, Zazoo.

Thanks for your post, Zazoo -- and everyone who shared how this is affecting them.  I too have had my perspective broadened enormously from this board and like you all, I'm so thankful for it.
Logged
Cordelia Fitzgerald

Huge Member
********

Reputation: 686

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 2664





Ignore
« Reply #807 on: March 11, 2022, 12:32:04 AM »


William will have to learn what he can or should express publicly versus privately because the most seemingly innocuous comment can create an international incident. Granny has been a master of discretion, herself.


Definitely this (and what you said, Gemsheal).  He's a nearly middle-aged future head of state who should be more educated than anyone when it comes to recent political events in Europe.  While the full context of his statement does not belong in this thread (mea culpa), he has to, and needs to be, more careful.

But I am glad to know that the added editorializing in the article was just that...editorializing, and he didn't actually reference Asia or Africa.
Logged
Lady Liebe

Humongous Member
**********

Reputation: 1111

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 6169


Black Pearl




Ignore
« Reply #808 on: March 11, 2022, 01:18:15 PM »

I really don't consider that editorializing. JMHO.

I, speaking only for myself, am very very tired of persons parsing another person's comments, be they a celebrity, royal or plain ole common folk for what they consider hidden meanings and then being offended by things that were not said.

The ones putting words, and by extension hidden meanings to other people's remarks should also be very careful of what they do.

Soon no one will say anything for fear of its being misconstrued. It's an insidious way of controlling people's speech.

My ire is not with Will. It's with whoever extrapolated and decided Will meant something he did not say.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2022, 01:28:21 PM by Lady Liebe » Logged

ďYou are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream.Ē -- CS Lewis
Paulina

Warned
Humongous Member
**********

Reputation: 1178

Offline Offline

United States United States

Posts: 5062





Ignore
« Reply #809 on: March 11, 2022, 02:55:07 PM »

Well said LL.
Logged

The problem with incompetent, corrupt, fascist government is incompetence, corruption and fascism,  not government (Jerome ŗ Paris - paraphrased)
Pages: 1 ... 52 53 [54] 55   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to: