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« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2020, 10:11:08 PM »

It is only Prince of Wales in England, Wales and Northern Ireland IF the heir apparent is created as Prince of Wales.

The heir apparent, who is also the eldest son of the monarch, is The Duke of Cornwall automatically but the title Prince of Wales has to be conferred.

Charles, for instance, became both Duke of Cornwall AND Duke of Rothesay the instant his mother became Queen but he didn't become Prince of Wales for another 6+ years.

If there is a female heir apparent (as there now can be since the Succession to the Crown Act) she won't hold either the Cornwall or Rothesay titles as those titles require the holder to be the eldest son of the monarch (of course the parliament can change that but I am simply using the existing rules for those titles).
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« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2020, 11:17:58 PM »

From Wikipedia: Frederick, Hereditary Prince of Denmark (1753-1805) was heir presumptive to the thrones of Denmark and Norway. He was the only son of King Frederick V.   
Please explain the title Hereditary Prince of Denmark.
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« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2020, 11:45:03 PM »

From Wikipedia: Frederick, Hereditary Prince of Denmark (1753-1805) was heir presumptive to the thrones of Denmark and Norway. He was the only son of King Frederick V.    
Please explain the title Hereditary Prince of Denmark.

This title is usually given to those, who are first in line of succession, but are not the son/daughter of the current King and thus will be bypassed by a son/daughter of the current King and/or are the daughter of the current King, but can be bypassed by a younger brother.

Frederick was the son of Frederick V. by his second marriage to Juliana of Brunswick. Thus, when his elder half brother became King, he became the Hereditary Prince. And Wikipedia is wrong, he was not the only son of Frederick V.
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« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2020, 11:33:07 PM »

From Wikipedia: Frederick, Hereditary Prince of Denmark (1753-1805) was heir presumptive to the thrones of Denmark and Norway. He was the only son of King Frederick V.    
Please explain the title Hereditary Prince of Denmark.

This title is usually given to those, who are first in line of succession, but are not the son/daughter of the current King and thus will be bypassed by a son/daughter of the current King and/or are the daughter of the current King, but can be bypassed by a younger brother.

Frederick was the son of Frederick V. by his second marriage to Juliana of Brunswick. Thus, when his elder half brother became King, he became the Hereditary Prince. And Wikipedia is wrong, he was not the only son of Frederick V.
     
 
Kristallinchen, Thank you. Wikipedia may not always be accurate.
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« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2020, 12:37:54 AM »

In Germany a sovereign duke outranked a sovereign prince, but a royal cadet prince outranked a cadet duke of a ducal or grand ducal family.
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« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2020, 06:28:33 PM »

King Louis XIII of France made Prince Honore II of Monaco a duke and peer of the realm, with title to the duchy of Valentinois and its revenues.
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« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 10:36:29 PM »

Napoleon II of France was titled HM King of Rome by his father Emperor Napoleon I as soon as he was born.
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