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« on: January 14, 2015, 07:58:44 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 08:01:11 PM »

Well, if the BRF didn't have English as their mother tongue, NOONE would care about them. So I don't know if they're popular but I get what they mean... I guess?
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 08:31:56 PM »

Well, IDK about popular, but well known certainly in the US. I did not follow royalty as a child, but could identify the Queen, Prince Charles, Princess Diana, William and Harry thanks to People Magazine. I still remember where I was when Princess Diana died. I started following the BRF because of Kate and her dating Prince William thanks to People Magazine.

Certain members of the BRF and associated members transcend royalty, they become celebrity. William and Kate are hot favorites among celeb followers, Prince George is someone whose pictures people like to see in the US. I have since seen a lot of royal children, cute children even heiresses to their fathers like Spain and Norway, but they are not known in the US at all. Kate is always on some magazine cover or the other in the States and regularly in People Magazine as "Princess Kate" while Eugenie and Beatrice are barely mentioned. Pippa is also featured there and in Vanity Fair. Even Hollywood loves William and Kate even though there are better royals in Europe. Charlene and Albert's babies barely made a splash though they are twins and Grace Kelley's descendants unlike George and now how his sibling will.

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Reese Witherspoon, an Oscar winning, accomplished actress who has a production company and has millions of fans has this look of absolute adoration when looking at Kate, a woman who is far her inferior in accomplishments. That is the power of the BRF IMO. Even celebrities who have millions adore them, look upon the BRF with adoration. I am slightly puzzled as to why. The answer as someone says is English perhaps and lack of coverage of other royal houses.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 09:02:57 PM »

The Diana factor comes to mind
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 03:08:27 AM »

Reese Witherspoon is not a good example. She's a lady that got arrested totally drunk and played "Do you know who I'm?" card on the cops... Talk about sense of entitlement there Crazy  This is usually the type of women that love Duchess Waity and look at her with adoring eyes: delusional wackos that think them and their idol are above mere mortals and who doesn't agree are just jealous or dumb because they don't know who and how important they are Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2015, 03:46:53 AM »

Reese Witherspoon is not a good example. She's a lady that got arrested totally drunk and played "Do you know who I'm?" card on the cops... Talk about sense of entitlement there Crazy  This is usually the type of women that love Duchess Waity and look at her with adoring eyes: delusional wackos that think them and their idol are above mere mortals and who doesn't agree are just jealous or dumb because they don't know who and how important they are Roll Eyes

Um I'm going to need you to call Reese "Laura Jeanne Poon"  Laughing
That is how her full name appeared at the bottom of her mugshot and I laugh whenever I think of it.
( full name being Laura Jeanne Reese Witherspoon)
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 12:39:50 PM »

Well as a britisher, its hard to know how much more the BRF are recognised/known abroad in comparison with other royal houses,  clearly from where i am, 99.9% of royal coverage in the mainstream media at least is about them, which you would expect. 

From my experience, the Spanish RF would be the next best known, with maybe the Dutch or Norwegians next...  Oh and Monaco as well.  The others pretty much nowhere,  I know many people who'd be hard pressed to know what other countries have monarchs, let alone recognise them or be able to name them.

As for the global profile, I suppose as they once ruled over an empire encompassing a third of the world, they were the heads of state for so many countries in living memory so its understandable that they are most well known.
Never really understood the US interest in them really, its a long time since we were the imperial overlords there.  Still we have a degree of fascination with some US persons so maybe its the language or the commonality of life between our two nations that make them the most easiest of the "foreign" countries to understand.

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 01:15:02 PM »

And the Queen is still head of state of 16 countries....
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2015, 03:48:53 PM »

Reese Witherspoon is not a good example. She's a lady that got arrested totally drunk and played "Do you know who I'm?" card on the cops... Talk about sense of entitlement there Crazy  This is usually the type of women that love Duchess Waity and look at her with adoring eyes: delusional wackos that think them and their idol are above mere mortals and who doesn't agree are just jealous or dumb because they don't know who and how important they are Roll Eyes

Reese Witherspoon playing the "Do you know who I am" card smacks of entitlement, but she has worked for what she has. Since she was a teenager when she made her debut in movies. I think she modeled before that. Other than that moment, Reese is someone who is an Oscar winning actress, a woman who became a mother in her early 20s, has been through a divorce and has managed to have a decent relationship with her ex, has a production company that produced the globally successful Gone Girl and now Wild which she stars in and has already been nominated for several awards, and possibly an Oscar too per buzz. She also has legions of fans world wide who adore, so I would quite not blame her for asking "do you know who I am". Wrong yes, but she has earned it by working in HW for years and being recognized by mobs of fans. If liking Kate makes Reese delusional despite her accomplishments  Roll Eyes

Entitled and delusional are women like Vile Sarah, the Duchess of York and Saint Sophie, the Countess of Wessex. Both women used their access to royalty and tried to take advantage. The Duchess is weak in character, what is the excuse of the Saintly Countess Sophie, who is supposed to work oh so hard and be the perfect royal now ?  Roll Eyes. Who I see is just someone who is smarter to hide their greed unlike the Duchess who never learns.

You can marry royalty, but celebrity is something that is given to a person for who they are or who the public perceive they are. And not necessarily deserved.

As for Kate, between sugars who thinks she is a perfect princess and others who mock her, there are people like me who like her. Who never followed royalty, but celebrity and saw an ordinary girl fall in love with a Prince. Watched her face global scrutiny at a young age with so much grace and at an age where most would have withered, watched her change,  do not think her Prince is much of a prize. But still despite all, marches to her own drumbeat and in an era of scandals when the born royal family members are beyond shameful and need mommy dearest aka Queen to bail them out, is a breath of fresh air as a young wife and mom trying to find her place despite her faults in the most widely known royal family in the world .
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2015, 04:43:45 PM »

Yes, she fell in love with a "prince" rather than a man. I highly doubt she would have waited around for 10 years if he's a regular Joe. She loves the perks of marrying a prince but not the work. Plus, she's quite immature for someone who's 33 and a mother of one. I think those are the main issues A lot of people have with her. Me included.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2015, 05:06:02 PM »

Yes, she fell in love with a "prince" rather than a man. I highly doubt she would have waited around for 10 years if he's a regular Joe. She loves the perks of marrying a prince but not the work. Plus, she's quite immature for someone who's 33 and a mother of one. I think those are the main issues A lot of people have with her. Me included.

Princess Beatrice is going around with Dave Clark for a while. They met young too. He is certainly no heir to a throne, just the garden variety son of an American millionaire and working in Virgin. They don't seem to be in a hurry to get married/engaged. She doesn't seem to have a proper job too, just going on lots of vacations. Would like to be a working royal for the perks except being a born royal landed up with the worst parents. Princess Bea has her detractors too just like Kate. Both have handled it with grace, more grace than I possibly ever can.

Everyone has the right to an opinion. Most of it is what we perceive and like. 

Before moderators get handslappy for another Kate is great vs Kate is not thread  Sweating, I would like to say that is the magic of the BRF. They are comprised of rather lazy, entitled people, both born and married with not much accomplishment compared to the the rest of the royal houses. But somehow people around the world know them. You have to hand them the prize for making people interested in them for all these years.  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2015, 05:55:17 PM »

There's a difference between having a long-term relationship and hanging on for the ring no matter how the guy treats you. And I'm certainly not a fan of Bea either so she's a bad analogy.

The Media is interested in the BRF because of the commonwealth. The queen is still regarded as someone important. Plus, the English factor. I, for one, find them as dull as the dish water. They're not interesting because of themselves, rather, they're reported a lot because of its history.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2015, 06:45:53 PM »

I think you guys are SPOT ON! People ultimately care about the history of the institution and therefore seem to overlook/ignore how entitled, unlikeable and/or bland they all are.

Do not get the fascination at all.

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2015, 07:46:41 PM »

I think you guys are SPOT ON! People ultimately care about the history of the institution and therefore seem to overlook/ignore how entitled, unlikeable and/or bland they all are.

Do not get the fascination at all.



I don't either-and I'm an American.  I find this family to be boring and completely uninteresting. 

My theory on their popularity does have to do with the language.  It's easy for Americans to follow them because most of what is written about them is in English, and in publications they can easily access.  I also think that this popularity is a semi-recent phenomenon.  I believe that Wallis Simpson was covered in American magazines back in her day.  QEII has been covered regularly since the 50s, but I believe that this is due to the fact that she took the throne as a young woman.  That fact alone will sell magazines.  Until the film, The King's Speech came out, most Americans had no clue about the monarch pre-QEII (and that's only among people who saw the film-go survey average Americans and they won't be able to name him).  Their popularity can be timed to the increase in coverage of celebrities purely for the glamour aspect.  They haven't done a single thing that an American can name.  However, we know all about the weddings of SOME of the family members.  Ask an average American to name QEII's children, and most of them will not be able to do so.  They'll know Charles and Andy (and Andy is known because of his wedding to Fergie), but won't be able to name Anne (they might know of a daughter, but probably can't name her), and they certainly won't know Edward and Sophie (their wedding wasn't covered here).  Unless they had a wedding that was covered heavily, Americans won't know who they are.

Ask an average American to name something the Queen has done that is not a wedding, baptism, Olympic opening ceremony attendance, or funeral-they won't be able to do it.  Trooping the Colour is not a thing here.  If it is mentioned, then it's as a side note in an article about fashion that shows a picture of Kate.  Had Diana not been popular here (and again-totally due to wedding coverage), Harry and William would not be so well-known. 

If they stopped wearing designer clothes, or "fancy" clothes (outrageous hats), and having very public weddings, then I guarantee we wouldn't see them in the spotlight in the US. 
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2015, 07:52:54 PM »

I thought that caption was a tongue in cheek joke...
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