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« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2015, 03:48:56 AM »

No, Harry's children won't be born HRH if they are born in the Queen's reign, and to be honest I don't think Harry would want that burden put on his children. (Look at Eugenie and Beatrice!) However, if, God forbid, the Queen dies in the next few years, Charles may insist on it. He is very close to Harry and would want his children to be on a par with George's siblings.

 And before anyone start pointing out Edward's children, the Queen had four children and as those branches sprout out into the next generation, of course they are going to move into the extended royal family and then beyond!

Charles has only two and Harry is likely to be an important member of the BRF, at least until George is in his mid-twenties!
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« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2015, 05:46:17 AM »

Ok it is just my opinion that if the Queen stretches to William, it will be stretched to Harry just because once Charles is King it will change for his kids so might as well start them out with it.
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« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2015, 09:18:17 AM »

If they had known that George was going to be a boy in advance it is possible that she wouldn't have issued the LPs but given the changes to the Succession to the Crown Act she could have faced the situation where the future monarch was born as Lady xxx Mountbatten-Windsor while a younger son was born as HRH. By extending the LPs to cover all of William's children she simply avoided that possibility. If she was going to extend it to Harry's children she could have made it the 'grandchildren of the Prince of Wales' rather than the children of The Duke of Cambridge.
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« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2017, 06:32:07 AM »

Is it true that Kate is a descendent of Mary Boleyn? And also some King maybe?

If it turns out to be true, then she is:

https://www.geni.com/path...mp;to=5232574568790079963

Curiously enough, Mary, Anne and George Boleyn are direct descendants of William the Conqueror from Thomas Boleyn's side, through William's daughter, Adela:

Mary/Anne/George - Thomas Boleyn, 1st Earl of Wiltshire - Lady Margaret Butler - Thomas Butler, 7th Earl of Ormond - James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond - James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond - James Butler, 2nd Earl of Ormond - Eleanor de Bohun, Countess of Ormonde - Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford - Humphrey de Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford - Matilda Lusignan - Alix, Countess of Eu - Henry II, Count of Eu - John, Count of Eu - Margaret de Blois - William, Count of Sully - Adela of Normandy - William the Conqueror

So IF Kate REALLY IS a descendant of Mary Boleyn, then she's a direct descendant of William the Conqueror as well.
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« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2017, 12:20:18 PM »

This may sound too simple but is it possible that no one from the BRF attended Margrethe's birthday celebration because they did not receive an invitation?

I simply cannot imagine that would be the case..... Liz and Marge are cousins through their shared descent from QV, and from what I have seen they are very close..... Marge shared during the documentary on Liz's golden jubilee that Liz was a great source of inspiration and advice to the young Queen, with small children, also mourning a father she was incredibly close to..... they have a lot in common despite the 20 year age gap. The gala dinner in the same program showed Liz greeting both Marge and Harold extremely warmly, and you could see there was real affectiion, and it was mentioned that these two in particular Liz has a strong relationship with - it was quite lovely actually! It must have been some other reason for them not to attend, or send a rep.
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« Reply #65 on: March 30, 2017, 01:28:10 PM »


So IF Kate REALLY IS a descendant of Mary Boleyn, then she's a direct descendant of William the Conqueror as well.

A huge number of us are too.  He is my 24th great grandfather - I would have had 64,000,000 24th great grandparents (probably less than that as many would appear multiple times the figure is rather greater than the population of the UK at the time)
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« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2017, 07:04:14 PM »


So IF Kate REALLY IS a descendant of Mary Boleyn, then she's a direct descendant of William the Conqueror as well.

A huge number of us are too.  He is my 24th great grandfather - I would have had 64,000,000 24th great grandparents (probably less than that as many would appear multiple times the figure is rather greater than the population of the UK at the time)

Exactly. Given Europe's total population in like 1066, and the fact that families in general had much more children in the past centuries, most people are somehow related in the umpteenth grade to someone who made it into the history books - whether "offcially" or as offspring of a bastard line.
So that's nothing Kate could be proud of.

Then again, I'd rather like to be related to someone who entered the history books with some positive notes than being a descendant of a short time Queen who had her head chopped off for adultery ...
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« Reply #67 on: March 31, 2017, 01:18:33 AM »


So IF Kate REALLY IS a descendant of Mary Boleyn, then she's a direct descendant of William the Conqueror as well.

A huge number of us are too.  He is my 24th great grandfather - I would have had 64,000,000 24th great grandparents (probably less than that as many would appear multiple times the figure is rather greater than the population of the UK at the time)

Exactly. Given Europe's total population in like 1066, and the fact that families in general had much more children in the past centuries, most people are somehow related in the umpteenth grade to someone who made it into the history books - whether "offcially" or as offspring of a bastard line.
So that's nothing Kate could be proud of.

Then again, I'd rather like to be related to someone who entered the history books with some positive notes than being a descendant of a short time Queen who had her head chopped off for adultery ...

Well, if Kate is a direct descendant of Mary Boleyn, she is also a direct descendant of William the Bastard, which means she is also a direct descendant of Matilda of Flanders, who is a direct descendant of Alfred the Great.  If I were in her shoes, I would be emphasising the link to Alfred.
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