Happiest marriag in royal Europe

[zinzen]

I may be the odd one expressing my view in the DRF. IMO these articles always comes across weird to me when trying to inform the public whose marriage is happier, good or bad. No one really knows what's going on behind closed doors.

I realized the media try to put more pressure or create unwanted drama against the heir to the throne and tend to favor the 2nd, 3rd etc in line to the throne. ( except for Maddie in Sweden)

I always wonder if Jokke wasn't a prince if Marie would consider marry him as he always looked drugged up. It seems like he used to live a hard life either drinking or doing drugs or both. He just look weird to me.

I don't know the dynamic of Mary and Fred. It seems like they are not like by the dishers here.

As for me, I do like them both. Mary seems to take her responsibilities seriously and have a serious look and comes across professional while Fred seems to be down to earth. I could be wrong as I don't really follow the family too much.

The only thing Mary does professionally is pose for the cameras and shop.  That's it.  She does not take anything seriously except for media coverage. 

Fred can be somewhat down to earth-on the rare occasions that he's sober.  He's the one with the substance abuse problem.  Always has been. 

Pixi! I knew you would make me Lol! Your comment above is very funny especially about the Amex.

Well since I don't follow this family often I am very surprised to hear the Fredd is the one with substance abuse issues. To me Jokke seems to look like someone with substance abuse issue. He look drugged out.

Jokke may look that way, but other than a drink or two every now and then, as well as a cigarette addiction, he doesn't have any substance abuse issues.  If you take the time to look at the older Mary and Fred threads, you'll see hundreds of pictures of Mary obnoxiously ignoring the people she's supposed to be working with in order to pose for cameras.  She even ignores her children when a camera is present. 

In addition to that, you'll see hundreds of pictures of Fred looking like he has been up for a week straight doing nothing but drinking and getting high.  From 2007 until the present, you can see pictures of Fred deteriorating rapidly. 

Pixie and Hester 

Jokke in a photo and Jokke in action are also very different. He is a REALLY unohotogenic  person. He is no beauty in action either but there is nothing that suggests he had any sort of longterm problem.

Fred however has been obviously inebriated before. For instance during the Cambridge visit when he was so high/drunk that he cut Mosh off mid sentence then rambled incoherently as she tried to kill him with her eyes.

The media doesn't need to try to make the Derfs look shakey. Derf did that himself when he was caught cheating redhanded with a girl nearly half his age who is still in his social circle. Before that he mysteriously lost his wedding ring in Miami, was photographed beyond cozy with another woman and then stared at her ass, and had the special pleasure of flying to meet Mary in Australia after his presence at a Playboy party  was revealed only to find himself locked out at. She knew they were waiting for her reaction, knew he was coming, and he found himself locked out trying to call someone to let him as the press snapped away.

And Mary is not a professional unless it is a professional camerwhore. Professionals don't speak Danish so poorly that while discussing malnourished Africans they end up calling them masturbating Africans. Professionals don't claim to speak French and have to have it removed from their CVs because it isn't true. Professionals don't go to visit refugees in red stilettos and a sheer skirt. Professionals don't pose like an over the hill ballerina in a mosque. They don't physically shove their husband out of the way to get in front of a camera.They don't spend time with a man charged with roughly 17 counts of rape in a case that led to multiple convictions. Oh and little Miss Professional is the only member of the royal family to be publicly taken to task by the Queen because she was photographed beside the jet-set queen Rigmor Zorbel partying following Rigmor's conviction for cocaine possession.

And we don't just randomly dislike her. There is a long well documented history if evidence that reveals her for just what she is: a tacky bogan phony who will wear Prada as her daughter walks around with holes in her shoes. Literally.

[periwinkle]

This reminds me of the quote by Tolstoy. All happy families are the same. All unhappy families are unhappy in their own way.

[pixiecat]

I may be the odd one expressing my view in the DRF. IMO these articles always comes across weird to me when trying to inform the public whose marriage is happier, good or bad. No one really knows what's going on behind closed doors.

I realized the media try to put more pressure or create unwanted drama against the heir to the throne and tend to favor the 2nd, 3rd etc in line to the throne. ( except for Maddie in Sweden)

I always wonder if Jokke wasn't a prince if Marie would consider marry him as he always looked drugged up. It seems like he used to live a hard life either drinking or doing drugs or both. He just look weird to me.

I don't know the dynamic of Mary and Fred. It seems like they are not like by the dishers here.

As for me, I do like them both. Mary seems to take her responsibilities seriously and have a serious look and comes across professional while Fred seems to be down to earth. I could be wrong as I don't really follow the family too much.

The only thing Mary does professionally is pose for the cameras and shop.  That's it.  She does not take anything seriously except for media coverage. 

Fred can be somewhat down to earth-on the rare occasions that he's sober.  He's the one with the substance abuse problem.  Always has been. 

Pixi! I knew you would make me Lol! Your comment above is very funny especially about the Amex.

Well since I don't follow this family often I am very surprised to hear the Fredd is the one with substance abuse issues. To me Jokke seems to look like someone with substance abuse issue. He look drugged out.

Jokke may look that way, but other than a drink or two every now and then, as well as a cigarette addiction, he doesn't have any substance abuse issues.  If you take the time to look at the older Mary and Fred threads, you'll see hundreds of pictures of Mary obnoxiously ignoring the people she's supposed to be working with in order to pose for cameras.  She even ignores her children when a camera is present. 

In addition to that, you'll see hundreds of pictures of Fred looking like he has been up for a week straight doing nothing but drinking and getting high.  From 2007 until the present, you can see pictures of Fred deteriorating rapidly. 

Pixie and Hester 

Jokke in a photo and Jokke in action are also very different. He is a REALLY unohotogenic  person. He is no beauty in action either but there is nothing that suggests he had any sort of longterm problem.

Fred however has been obviously inebriated before. For instance during the Cambridge visit when he was so high/drunk that he cut Mosh off mid sentence then rambled incoherently as she tried to kill him with her eyes.

The media doesn't need to try to make the Derfs look shakey. Derf did that himself when he was caught cheating redhanded with a girl nearly half his age who is still in his social circle. Before that he mysteriously lost his wedding ring in Miami, was photographed beyond cozy with another woman and then stared at her ass, and had the special pleasure of flying to meet Mary in Australia after his presence at a Playboy party  was revealed only to find himself locked out at. She knew they were waiting for her reaction, knew he was coming, and he found himself locked out trying to call someone to let him as the press snapped away.

And Mary is not a professional unless it is a professional camerwhore. Professionals don't speak Danish so poorly that while discussing malnourished Africans they end up calling them masturbating Africans. Professionals don't claim to speak French and have to have it removed from their CVs because it isn't true. Professionals don't go to visit refugees in red stilettos and a sheer skirt. Professionals don't pose like an over the hill ballerina in a mosque. They don't physically shove their husband out of the way to get in front of a camera.They don't spend time with a man charged with roughly 17 counts of rape in a case that led to multiple convictions. Oh and little Miss Professional is the only member of the royal family to be publicly taken to task by the Queen because she was photographed beside the jet-set queen Rigmor Zorbel partying following Rigmor's conviction for cocaine possession.

And we don't just randomly dislike her. There is a long well documented history if evidence that reveals her for just what she is: a tacky bogan phony who will wear Prada as her daughter walks around with holes in her shoes. Literally.

Back at you, Kiki! 

[PeDe]

Also, Marie ran is similar, same circles as Joachim did. She was used to the royal/noble crowed. She knew what's expected from her when she married into the DRF.

She wasn't a women who tried to modernize the Danish monarchy or outshine the Queen. She adapted wonderfully. Marie takes her patronages more serious than Yrma, IMO, but we don't see the coverage from Danish magazines, because that would mean that she would give Mary a run for her money, and as it is unwritten law not to outshine the CP, she's held back by media quite a lot, hence the meager reporting on what she does. Marie fell in love with the man, and the prince-thing was a bonus, hence the happy marriage. Mary chased Fred down with lies and pretense until she got the ring & black Amex.

As pixie mentioned, it is well know about Fred to drink excessively, probably do other things as well, and to womanize. Proof this New Year's court, he looked like on dope, or pills. Completely out of it. It may be or not, he just looked like a drunk in costume. Joachim may give an arrogant air, or be arrogant, but he is dedicated to his patronages. Fred sails, runs, and swims, and derps any other attendances.

The article just pointed out that J&M are one of the happiest couples in Europe, due to observation of their behaviour in public.

ITA with you PeDe 

zinny