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« Reply #135 on: December 01, 2019, 11:06:24 AM »

One more miss I would like to underline has to do wih he 4h episode, that had a greek element because of DoE's mother. First of all, the greek accents were horrible and I'm not talking about her accent - because she was deaf and that's why I don't think that she had any kind of greek accent. The rest of the actors had horrible accents. There are so many actors and actresses who could participate in this episode. In addition, the location and the scenery they choose were very far from the truth. Athens was nothing like what we saw and the organization of princess Alice was located in a neoclassical building north of Athens. The building is still standing today and as soon as I have access in internet from my laptop, I will post photos.
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« Reply #136 on: December 01, 2019, 11:43:13 AM »

The firs two seasons seemed pretty accurate historically whereas this one seems to just use the very barest of facts and create completely made up stories from them.  The Aberfan episode was beautiful and well done from the point of view of the disaster itself but it was complete fiction to suggest HM fakes tears and was forced to go visit and that detracted from the whole episode.   
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« Reply #137 on: December 01, 2019, 04:42:05 PM »

The Queen was moved when she visited Aberfan - deeply - as reported at the time and regularly commented on by the people who meet her there. There was also no conflict about her going. She wanted to go but she also didn't want to 'get in the way of the rescuers'. She was fully aware that her visit would focus security and everyone else on her and she didn't want that to be the case if there was a chance that someone else could be rescued.

This is one of the reasons why I stopped watching The Crown - it is largely fiction using real people's names as characters. Sadly many people think it is a documentary or docudrama rather than a fictional account using real people and real events as a backdrop for the story line.

Although the Aberfan episode was really well done from an entertainment/production perspective, I agree that the way the Queen was portrayed was almost libelous.

But, thatís my issue with this season. Itís veered way off into unbelievable land with a lot of issues. Itís sloppy as all get out.


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You both said exactly what I think.  Though I enjoy the show it makes me cringe when the writers mess up easy facts, like the date of Churchill's death, and it just makes me roll my eyes.  It feels like they are rushing through time in this season too.

I felt they missed an easy score by not covering the unveiling of Queen Mary's memorial at Marlborough House in 1967.  It was the first public event that the Duke & Duchess of Windsor were invited to (the only one, as it turned out) and the Duchess refused to curtsey to the Queen Mother.  It would have made a great episode and a great lead into the Queen's visiting the Duke in France & DoW's death.
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« Reply #138 on: December 04, 2019, 09:53:48 PM »

I just made it through episode 7 (barely) and itís just boring AF. Iím so disappointed in this season. Iíll keep trudging on though.  Snore
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« Reply #139 on: December 05, 2019, 01:14:34 AM »

I just made it through episode 7 (barely) and itís just boring AF. Iím so disappointed in this season. Iíll keep trudging on though.  Snore
I like Tobias, but this season is boring.
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« Reply #140 on: December 05, 2019, 02:06:25 AM »

I just made it through episode 7 (barely) and itís just boring AF. Iím so disappointed in this season. Iíll keep trudging on though.  Snore
I like Tobias, but this season is boring.

I feel the same. I was really excited for this season to come out but itís been pretty blah.
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« Reply #141 on: December 05, 2019, 02:59:31 AM »

Disappointing! And we had to wait so long for it!
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« Reply #142 on: December 05, 2019, 07:27:15 AM »

I just made it through episode 7 (barely) and itís just boring AF. Iím so disappointed in this season. Iíll keep trudging on though.  Snore
I like Tobias, but this season is boring.

I feel the same. I was really excited for this season to come out but itís been pretty blah.

It was so blah.

Tobias in my eyes was a better Philip than Matt and I LOVED Princess Anne. She is exactly what I imagine.

One thing I am disappointed by is they didnít cover Anneís wedding to Mark in 1973. That was a bit odd.
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« Reply #143 on: December 05, 2019, 07:31:35 AM »

In my opinion, Philip is the only one that got any real character development, QEII and the rest came off as caricatures and the actors just could not save the mediocre writing despite their effort.
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« Reply #144 on: December 05, 2019, 08:47:21 AM »

It feels lower budget this time around...
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« Reply #145 on: December 05, 2019, 10:57:36 PM »

I found an error: at the very end of Bubbikins the retainer refers to the ďAustralian Broadcasting CorporationĒ -it was ďCommissionĒ at the time.
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« Reply #146 on: December 07, 2019, 02:03:02 AM »

This is the building that Princess Alice's organization was located:




From this article https://www.protagon.gr/t...-neo-irakleio-44341950801 that reffers to the history of the building, which was Alice's summer residence and now has been declared a historical site and operates as space for entertaining the elderly and it is a part of Red Cross.
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« Reply #147 on: December 07, 2019, 02:15:14 AM »

I'm struggling to finish the last few eps. Just finished the moon landing one.
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« Reply #148 on: December 07, 2019, 12:07:16 PM »

I'm struggling to finish the last few eps. Just finished the moon landing one.
Very boring episode imo.
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« Reply #149 on: December 27, 2019, 11:46:34 AM »

I finished this earlier in the month and I have to say I am sorely disappointed. Olivia Coleman and Helena BC weíre totally miscast. Iím not 100% sure if the history but they have shown the Queen in a really bad light, reading through Charlesí personal letters, telling him that I one wanted to hear what he has to say (whilst I get the position of the monarchy to be independent, her feelings could have come across in a more polite manner), etc. And then they have suggested that she faked a tear at Aberfan and made up some convoluted reason why. I think with a better actress, the nuances would have come across better but Olivia Coleman is just totally flat in this role (for me).
The moon episode was so boring that I nearly skipped it half way through.
Saying all this I think the Ďnewerí characters of Charles, Anne and Camilla are interesting (Anne is really well played) and they are why I will continue to watch this. Also, Princess Alice was such a good character and I enjoyed her relationship with Philip but I wish she was in it more and 2 and 1/2 episodes. She was an asset to the show!
I hope they sort out the pacing in the next series, it felt like time went by too quickly and whilst series 1 and 2 had storylines that weaved throughout the length of the shows, series 3 feels like each episode is independent of each other.
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