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« Reply #270 on: February 17, 2021, 03:10:39 PM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.

Naive?  Maybe
in my opinion she was stupid and arrogant

You might be right Rita. She probably thought that he wouldn’t dare mess with her because of her family. Wrong.
Exactly
She thought i am princess i am special he wont dare

I think Haya thought the Jordanian Royal family was equal
.... no way... not in status or wealth.... and The King is guided by his wife.... Haya is not his sister from the same mother and apparently married despite advice not to... what did she think would happen? At least she got enough money away from Dubai to start a new life but will never be free .... and her children could be taken at any time

The King of Jordan is simply not in the position to challenge Mo. I don't think this would've been any different, if Haya had been his full sister.
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« Reply #271 on: February 17, 2021, 03:19:06 PM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.

Naive?  Maybe
in my opinion she was stupid and arrogant

You might be right Rita. She probably thought that he wouldn’t dare mess with her because of her family. Wrong.
Exactly
She thought i am princess i am special he wont dare

I think Haya thought the Jordanian Royal family was equal
.... no way... not in status or wealth.... and The King is guided by his wife.... Haya is not his sister from the same mother and apparently married despite advice not to... what did she think would happen? At least she got enough money away from Dubai to start a new life but will never be free .... and her children could be taken at any time

I would think that she has quite a bit salted away in jewelry in various safe deposit boxes. According to this she now owns this tiara http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/search?q=haya at the very least. If you scroll through her thread on Sugar Board, it appears that about 2013 she started buying substantial new jewelry.  Smart girl.
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« Reply #272 on: February 17, 2021, 04:18:34 PM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.

Naive?  Maybe
in my opinion she was stupid and arrogant

You might be right Rita. She probably thought that he wouldn’t dare mess with her because of her family. Wrong.
Exactly
She thought i am princess i am special he wont dare

I think Haya thought the Jordanian Royal family was equal
.... no way... not in status or wealth.... and The King is guided by his wife.... Haya is not his sister from the same mother and apparently married despite advice not to... what did she think would happen? At least she got enough money away from Dubai to start a new life but will never be free .... and her children could be taken at any time
Exactly so  Star
And that prove what Kristallinchen and i said above,that she is naive stupid and arrogant...

She may have some money and some kind of lucky escape but she will never be free her chikdren will never ever be free and that the sad part...there is even a possibility her kids once older wil chose to go for their father especially Al jalila she is known to be close to Mo.
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« Reply #273 on: February 18, 2021, 03:08:46 AM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.

Naive?  Maybe
in my opinion she was stupid and arrogant

You might be right Rita. She probably thought that he wouldn’t dare mess with her because of her family. Wrong.
Exactly
She thought i am princess i am special he wont dare

I think Haya thought the Jordanian Royal family was equal
.... no way... not in status or wealth.... and The King is guided by his wife.... Haya is not his sister from the same mother and apparently married despite advice not to... what did she think would happen? At least she got enough money away from Dubai to start a new life but will never be free .... and her children could be taken at any time
Exactly so  Star
And that prove what Kristallinchen and i said above,that she is naive stupid and arrogant...

She may have some money and some kind of lucky escape but she will never be free her chikdren will never ever be free and that the sad part...there is even a possibility her kids once older wil chose to go for their father especially Al jalila she is known to be close to Mo.

That is so sad.
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« Reply #274 on: February 18, 2021, 10:47:10 AM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.

Naive?  Maybe
in my opinion she was stupid and arrogant

You might be right Rita. She probably thought that he wouldn’t dare mess with her because of her family. Wrong.
Exactly
She thought i am princess i am special he wont dare

I think Haya thought the Jordanian Royal family was equal
.... no way... not in status or wealth.... and The King is guided by his wife.... Haya is not his sister from the same mother and apparently married despite advice not to... what did she think would happen? At least she got enough money away from Dubai to start a new life but will never be free .... and her children could be taken at any time
Exactly so  Star
And that prove what Kristallinchen and i said above,that she is naive stupid and arrogant...

She may have some money and some kind of lucky escape but she will never be free her chikdren will never ever be free and that the sad part...there is even a possibility her kids once older wil chose to go for their father especially Al jalila she is known to be close to Mo.

That is so sad.

Indeed. Considering that Al Jalila might share the fate of her sisters, if she should challenge her father once.
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« Reply #275 on: February 18, 2021, 03:20:23 PM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.


Perhaps the horses and such in mind Wink

Certainly. And the jewels, dresses and palaces...and overall the status as primary wife of...

At first I read your comment wrong.... and thought...wait a minute wasn't Haya his 2nd or 3rd wife?
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« Reply #276 on: February 18, 2021, 08:05:12 PM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.

Naive?  Maybe
in my opinion she was stupid and arrogant

You might be right Rita. She probably thought that he wouldn’t dare mess with her because of her family. Wrong.
Exactly
She thought i am princess i am special he wont dare

I think Haya thought the Jordanian Royal family was equal
.... no way... not in status or wealth.... and The King is guided by his wife.... Haya is not his sister from the same mother and apparently married despite advice not to... what did she think would happen? At least she got enough money away from Dubai to start a new life but will never be free .... and her children could be taken at any time
Exactly so  Star
And that prove what Kristallinchen and i said above,that she is naive stupid and arrogant...

She may have some money and some kind of lucky escape but she will never be free her chikdren will never ever be free and that the sad part...there is even a possibility her kids once older wil chose to go for their father especially Al jalila she is known to be close to Mo.

That is so sad.

Indeed. Considering that Al Jalila might share the fate of her sisters, if she should challenge her father once.
When you remember that the impetus for Haya fleeing was that Mo wanted to marry Al Jalila to the murderous Saudi Crown Prince Bonesaw, Al Jalila might  want to think twice about returning to Dubai. I doubt she would be allowed to leave.
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« Reply #277 on: February 18, 2021, 08:09:18 PM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.


Perhaps the horses and such in mind Wink

Certainly. And the jewels, dresses and palaces...and overall the status as primary wife of...

At first I read your comment wrong.... and thought...wait a minute wasn't Haya his 2nd or 3rd wife?
She was the 6th 
But what Kristallinchen i think means she was the oficial wife or the public wife status
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« Reply #278 on: February 18, 2021, 08:12:41 PM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.

Naive?  Maybe
in my opinion she was stupid and arrogant

You might be right Rita. She probably thought that he wouldn’t dare mess with her because of her family. Wrong.
Exactly
She thought i am princess i am special he wont dare

I think Haya thought the Jordanian Royal family was equal
.... no way... not in status or wealth.... and The King is guided by his wife.... Haya is not his sister from the same mother and apparently married despite advice not to... what did she think would happen? At least she got enough money away from Dubai to start a new life but will never be free .... and her children could be taken at any time
Exactly so  Star
And that prove what Kristallinchen and i said above,that she is naive stupid and arrogant...

She may have some money and some kind of lucky escape but she will never be free her chikdren will never ever be free and that the sad part...there is even a possibility her kids once older wil chose to go for their father especially Al jalila she is known to be close to Mo.

That is so sad.

Indeed. Considering that Al Jalila might share the fate of her sisters, if she should challenge her father once.
When you remember that the impetus for Haya fleeing was that Mo wanted to marry Al Jalila to the murderous Saudi Crown Prince Bonesaw, Al Jalila might  want to think twice about returning to Dubai. I doubt she would be allowed to leave.
To be honest i take the claims of Haya about the arranged marriage of her daughter to MBS with grain of salt, its known that MBS is for now a one man wife and it also known in ME that his wife control him and have so much power over him
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« Reply #279 on: February 18, 2021, 08:52:26 PM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.


Perhaps the horses and such in mind Wink

Certainly. And the jewels, dresses and palaces...and overall the status as primary wife of...

At first I read your comment wrong.... and thought...wait a minute wasn't Haya his 2nd or 3rd wife?
She was the 6th 
But what Kristallinchen i think means she was the oficial wife or the public wife status

Yes, that's what I meant.
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« Reply #280 on: February 19, 2021, 03:10:57 AM »

Great to know she is alive

There is an article also about how Mo tricked Mrs Robbinson and Haya in Latifa situation  Roll Eyes
While i can see Mrs Robbinson tricked, haya? i don't think so

I think tricked is a harsh word, but Haya certainly was naive by marrying him.

Naive?  Maybe
in my opinion she was stupid and arrogant

You might be right Rita. She probably thought that he wouldn’t dare mess with her because of her family. Wrong.
Exactly
She thought i am princess i am special he wont dare

I think Haya thought the Jordanian Royal family was equal
.... no way... not in status or wealth.... and The King is guided by his wife.... Haya is not his sister from the same mother and apparently married despite advice not to... what did she think would happen? At least she got enough money away from Dubai to start a new life but will never be free .... and her children could be taken at any time
Exactly so  Star
And that prove what Kristallinchen and i said above,that she is naive stupid and arrogant...

She may have some money and some kind of lucky escape but she will never be free her chikdren will never ever be free and that the sad part...there is even a possibility her kids once older wil chose to go for their father especially Al jalila she is known to be close to Mo.

That is so sad.

Indeed. Considering that Al Jalila might share the fate of her sisters, if she should challenge her father once.
When you remember that the impetus for Haya fleeing was that Mo wanted to marry Al Jalila to the murderous Saudi Crown Prince Bonesaw, Al Jalila might  want to think twice about returning to Dubai. I doubt she would be allowed to leave.
To be honest i take the claims of Haya about the arranged marriage of her daughter to MBS with grain of salt, its known that MBS is for now a one man wife and it also known in ME that his wife control him and have so much power over him
Ahhhh..... not going to accept that Crown Prince Bonesaw is controlled by his wife. Also, not sure that he has only one wife. It's quite common in some of these ME ruling families that the men have many secret wives. Just look at Sheik Mo: 30 known children with 6 wives, only some of which are publicly known/named https://en.wikipedia.org/...aktoum#Wives_and_children  and that's just the known ones. I wouldn't set foot anywhere in the ME were I either Haya or Al Jalila for fear of never leaving, or for that matter, ever seeing the sky again. And somewhere else we need to have a thread on the ongoing inbreeding in these ME families. When you read through the list of children and spouses for Mo it's all al Maktoums marrying al Maktoums or every few times an  arranged marriage into another ME royal family. I don't see anything along the lines of and Princess XYZ married English Baron 🖖 or Prince DEF married French Countess QRS
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« Reply #281 on: February 19, 2021, 03:34:42 AM »

What is the situation with the Crown Prince Fazza? Do we think he is involved in all of this or is he too controlled by his father? Wasn't there a rather odd double/triple wedding recently?
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« Reply #282 on: February 19, 2021, 04:22:01 AM »

Pretty confidant that he;s been brought up in the 'family culture' of women are subjugated chattel to be used as negotiating pawns in arranged marriages. As I said earlier, they all intermarry other al Maktoums or ME ruling families. Highly doubtful its for love/affection as the females are not allowed to travel or meet men unrelated to them in general.
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« Reply #283 on: February 19, 2021, 10:44:12 AM »

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Ahhhh..... not going to accept that Crown Prince Bonesaw is controlled by his wife. Also, not sure that he has only one wife. It's quite common in some of these ME ruling families that the men have many secret wives. Just look at Sheik Mo: 30 known children with 6 wives, only some of which are publicly known/named https://en.wikipedia.org/...aktoum#Wives_and_children  and that's just the known ones. I wouldn't set foot anywhere in the ME were I either Haya or Al Jalila for fear of never leaving, or for that matter, ever seeing the sky again. And somewhere else we need to have a thread on the ongoing inbreeding in these ME families. When you read through the list of children and spouses for Mo it's all al Maktoums marrying al Maktoums or every few times an  arranged marriage into another ME royal family. I don't see anything along the lines of and Princess XYZ married English Baron 🖖 or Prince DEF married French Countess QRS
Well he is a dump man i honestly can see him easlly controlled and i did saw pic of his wife and she  looks pretty controlling loool
But seriously i just said what i heard MBS for now have one wife in this culture there no sush thing called secret wives if he want he can marry 4 without feel emabarassed and have to hide the fact..but for now he is only married to his cousin Sara something and have 4 children.
I know  is quit unbelievable to see powerful man in ME have only one wife but that happen though,in Kuweit for example they do have one wife the late Emir had ever married once and even when his wife died in in the 90s he never married again and chose to rise his kids alone untile his death in 2020 he stayed faithful to his wife memory,the actual Emir have also one wife,same thing can be said about the sultan of Oman.

As for the match you said it you say it your self it's Al Maktoum marriyng Al Maktoum,this ppl in ME are households in competition and they were in competition for years now if for forever  they like to keep it between them selves,Al Maktoum marry Al Maktoum,Al Nehyan marry Al Nehyan,Al Khalifa marry Al Khalifa and it's rare they do politique alliancce by marriage..yes they do it sometimes  but not in hight range like a marriage between MBS and Al Jalila NOWAY a household from the Emirat will offer a futur king of SA sush opportunity (a bride with conction with Prophet Mohammed )
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« Reply #284 on: February 19, 2021, 10:52:45 AM »

What is the situation with the Crown Prince Fazza? Do we think he is involved in all of this or is he too controlled by his father? Wasn't there a rather odd double/triple wedding recently?
He seems controled by his father Mo,can't tell about his ideas or what his opinions about women or anything else because he seems to not have a say in anything his life included..himself he was forced to marry his cousin (a chosen bride by his father and mother when his was just a kid) and while some rumours said he broke the engagement 10 yrs ago,but in the end he couldn't escape and married the girl couple of years ago
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