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When Princess Wilhelmina was born in 1880, she was not immediately her father's only heir.
Alexander, Prince of Orange was King Willem III's son. Prince Alexander's mother was Sophie of Wurttemberg. Alexander died in 1884.
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When Princess Wilhelmina was born in 1880, she was not immediately her father's only heir.
Alexander, Prince of Orange was King Willem III's son. Prince Alexander's mother was Sophie of Wurttemberg. Alexander died in 1884.
King Willem III and his 1st wife Princess Sophie of Württemberg had 3 sons, despite their unhappy marriage (definately a mismatch). 1) Willem (1840-1879). Was in fight with his parents and was know as "wild". 2) Maurice (1843-1850). Died of an illness 3) Alexander (1851- 1884). Rumour had it that this sensitive prince was locked up in an asylum. With his 2nd wife, Princess Emma of Waldeck-Pyrmont, King Willem III had 1 child (even as there were and are rumours she isn't his): Wilhelmina (1880-1962) So indeed at the time of Wilhelmina one of her elder half brothers was still alive. |
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When Princess Wilhelmina was born in 1880, she was not immediately her father's only heir.
Alexander, Prince of Orange was King Willem III's son. Prince Alexander's mother was Sophie of Wurttemberg. Alexander died in 1884.
King Willem III and his 1st wife Princess Sophie of Württemberg had 3 sons, despite their unhappy marriage (definately a mismatch). 1) Willem (1840-1879). Was in fight with his parents and was know as "wild". 2) Maurice (1843-1850). Died of an illness 3) Alexander (1851- 1884). Rumour had it that this sensitive prince was locked up in an asylum. With his 2nd wife, Princess Emma of Waldeck-Pyrmont, King Willem III had 1 child (even as there were and are rumours she isn't his): Wilhelmina (1880-1962) So indeed at the time of Wilhelmina one of her elder half brothers was still alive. One of married wanted to marry a countess, right? Was it Willem? |
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When Princess Wilhelmina was born in 1880, she was not immediately her father's only heir.
Alexander, Prince of Orange was King Willem III's son. Prince Alexander's mother was Sophie of Wurttemberg. Alexander died in 1884.
King Willem III and his 1st wife Princess Sophie of Württemberg had 3 sons, despite their unhappy marriage (definately a mismatch). 1) Willem (1840-1879). Was in fight with his parents and was know as "wild". 2) Maurice (1843-1850). Died of an illness 3) Alexander (1851- 1884). Rumour had it that this sensitive prince was locked up in an asylum. With his 2nd wife, Princess Emma of Waldeck-Pyrmont, King Willem III had 1 child (even as there were and are rumours she isn't his): Wilhelmina (1880-1962) So indeed at the time of Wilhelmina one of her elder half brothers was still alive. One of married wanted to marry a countess, right? Was it Willem? It was indeed Willem, also known as Wiwill. Alice, the second daughter of the English Queen Victoria, was briefly in the picture to marry him, but his bad reputation had already preceded Prince Willem and the British queen was not interested. The Russian Grand Duchess Maria Aleksandrovna, a daughter of Tsar Alexander II, also seemed suitable, but it did not come to a marriage with her either. "The peasant woman does not want me," the prince is said to have said on his return from St. Petersburg. But he himself was not interested.
Prince Willem and his father King Willem III had a far from good relationship, culminating in Willem's self-imposed exile after the king and queen disapproved of his marriage plans to the Dutch Mathilde countess van Limburg Stirum. Such a marriage was unsuitable from the point of view of the status of the time. The Council of Ministers was also against at first, but eventually resigned itself to it, because it was feared that otherwise he would not marry at all and there would then be no heir to the throne. Nor was a marriage to be expected from his only surviving brother Alexander. Willem III preferred his eldest son to marry a foreign princess, but indicated that he might still agree to marry a foreign countess or duchess. He wanted to prevent the throne from passing to the children of his sister Sophie. Marriage with a Dutch lady, however, was out of the question for him.
Willem then left for Paris for good. The Parisian tabloid press regularly devoted scandalous stories to his debauched dealings. According to the biographer and historian Dik van der Meulen, he probably owes his nickname Prince Citron to his moodiness, with a reference to his principality of Orange, which stands for 'orange'. As he became involved with the family of the ex-Emperor Napoleon III, he was shadowed by French government agents. In the end, Prince William ran into financial problems. He had borrowed millions of francs, which he spent partly on swindlers but also on prostitutes.
On May 25, 1879 Willem had a "serious period". This was due to pneumonia. He was treated with quinine, but on June 11, he died, only 38 years old. Yet even in Paris he had never completely lost his stature; at his bier lay a wreath from ex-Empress Eugénie of France and one from the English Crown Prince Edward. He was interred in the crypt of Oranje-Nassau in the Nieuwe Kerk in Delft on 26 June 1879. His brother Alexander succeeded him as Prince of Orange, but his father also survived his death in 1884. Therefore, after his death in 1890, Willem III was succeeded by his daughter Wilhelmina, born in 1880, as Queen of the Netherlands.A young Crown Prince Willem:   Anna Mathilda (Mattie) Countess of Limburg Stirum (Warmond, 24 July 1854 – Popham (England), 14 May 1932) has become known as the lover of Crown Prince Willem, the eldest son of King Willem III. Her nickname for those closest to her was Mattie. Permission to marry the prince was personally withheld by the king.
Mathilde was a daughter from the second marriage of Count Leopold van Limburg Stirum (1818-1900), lord of Noordwijkerhout, with Julie Marie Barre (1822-1887). Her father was a grandson of the famous Leopold van Limburg Stirum (1758-1840), a member of the Triumvirate responsible for the foundation of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Leopold already had five children from a previous marriage to Adolphine Wilhelmina Anna van der Wyck (1819-1849).
Mathilde and the Prince of Orange met in 1873. In the spring of 1874, the Prince attempted to obtain permission from his parents and the government for a marriage, but both King Willem III and Queen Sophie insisted on a marriage from the heir to the throne with a royal princess. The government also took this position, but ministers De Vries and Fransen van de Putte were willing to cooperate when they realized that the prince would not enter into another marriage. The 33-year-old Willem still wanted to get married, if necessary without the permission of his parents. Mathilde, who was not yet twenty, also did not get permission from her parents. The romance ended when Willem died in 1879.Mathilde van Limburg Stirum around 1880:  If I remember correctly, there was also a rumor that the marriage was not allowed to take place because Mathilde could be an illegitimate child of the Oranges. In other words, a half-sister of Willem |
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When Princess Wilhelmina was born in 1880, she was not immediately her father's only heir.
Alexander, Prince of Orange was King Willem III's son. Prince Alexander's mother was Sophie of Wurttemberg. Alexander died in 1884.
King Willem III and his 1st wife Princess Sophie of Württemberg had 3 sons, despite their unhappy marriage (definately a mismatch). 1) Willem (1840-1879). Was in fight with his parents and was know as "wild". 2) Maurice (1843-1850). Died of an illness 3) Alexander (1851- 1884). Rumour had it that this sensitive prince was locked up in an asylum. With his 2nd wife, Princess Emma of Waldeck-Pyrmont, King Willem III had 1 child (even as there were and are rumours she isn't his): Wilhelmina (1880-1962) So indeed at the time of Wilhelmina one of her elder half brothers was still alive. One of married wanted to marry a countess, right? Was it Willem? It was indeed Willem, also known as Wiwill. Alice, the second daughter of the English Queen Victoria, was briefly in the picture to marry him, but his bad reputation had already preceded Prince Willem and the British queen was not interested. The Russian Grand Duchess Maria Aleksandrovna, a daughter of Tsar Alexander II, also seemed suitable, but it did not come to a marriage with her either. "The peasant woman does not want me," the prince is said to have said on his return from St. Petersburg. But he himself was not interested.
Prince Willem and his father King Willem III had a far from good relationship, culminating in Willem's self-imposed exile after the king and queen disapproved of his marriage plans to the Dutch Mathilde countess van Limburg Stirum. Such a marriage was unsuitable from the point of view of the status of the time. The Council of Ministers was also against at first, but eventually resigned itself to it, because it was feared that otherwise he would not marry at all and there would then be no heir to the throne. Nor was a marriage to be expected from his only surviving brother Alexander. Willem III preferred his eldest son to marry a foreign princess, but indicated that he might still agree to marry a foreign countess or duchess. He wanted to prevent the throne from passing to the children of his sister Sophie. Marriage with a Dutch lady, however, was out of the question for him.
Willem then left for Paris for good. The Parisian tabloid press regularly devoted scandalous stories to his debauched dealings. According to the biographer and historian Dik van der Meulen, he probably owes his nickname Prince Citron to his moodiness, with a reference to his principality of Orange, which stands for 'orange'. As he became involved with the family of the ex-Emperor Napoleon III, he was shadowed by French government agents. In the end, Prince William ran into financial problems. He had borrowed millions of francs, which he spent partly on swindlers but also on prostitutes.
On May 25, 1879 Willem had a "serious period". This was due to pneumonia. He was treated with quinine, but on June 11, he died, only 38 years old. Yet even in Paris he had never completely lost his stature; at his bier lay a wreath from ex-Empress Eugénie of France and one from the English Crown Prince Edward. He was interred in the crypt of Oranje-Nassau in the Nieuwe Kerk in Delft on 26 June 1879. His brother Alexander succeeded him as Prince of Orange, but his father also survived his death in 1884. Therefore, after his death in 1890, Willem III was succeeded by his daughter Wilhelmina, born in 1880, as Queen of the Netherlands.A young Crown Prince Willem: Anna Mathilda (Mattie) Countess of Limburg Stirum (Warmond, 24 July 1854 – Popham (England), 14 May 1932) has become known as the lover of Crown Prince Willem, the eldest son of King Willem III. Her nickname for those closest to her was Mattie. Permission to marry the prince was personally withheld by the king.
Mathilde was a daughter from the second marriage of Count Leopold van Limburg Stirum (1818-1900), lord of Noordwijkerhout, with Julie Marie Barre (1822-1887). Her father was a grandson of the famous Leopold van Limburg Stirum (1758-1840), a member of the Triumvirate responsible for the foundation of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Leopold already had five children from a previous marriage to Adolphine Wilhelmina Anna van der Wyck (1819-1849).
Mathilde and the Prince of Orange met in 1873. In the spring of 1874, the Prince attempted to obtain permission from his parents and the government for a marriage, but both King Willem III and Queen Sophie insisted on a marriage from the heir to the throne with a royal princess. The government also took this position, but ministers De Vries and Fransen van de Putte were willing to cooperate when they realized that the prince would not enter into another marriage. The 33-year-old Willem still wanted to get married, if necessary without the permission of his parents. Mathilde, who was not yet twenty, also did not get permission from her parents. The romance ended when Willem died in 1879.Mathilde van Limburg Stirum around 1880: If I remember correctly, there was also a rumor that the marriage was not allowed to take place because Mathilde could be an illegitimate child of the Oranges. In other words, a half-sister of Willem Thank you. Quite the scandal indeed. But in the end the Dutch can be happy that Wilhelminena became their Queen. |
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Personally I also think it has something tragic, the life story of the 3 sons of Willem III and his first wife Princess Sopie of Württemberg: 1) Willem Nicolaas Alexander Frederik Karel Hendrik (4 september 1840 – 11 juni 1879) (Wiwill): see above   2) Willem Frederik Maurits Alexander Hendrik Karel (15 september 1843 – 4 juni 1850)Prince Maurits developed meningitis at the end of May 1850. His parents - their relationship was already far from ideal at that time - got into a fight at the sick bed about which doctors to consult. The queen refused to allow the king's personal physician to treat her son. The king denied Sophie's chosen doctor access to the sickbed.On June 10, 1850, Prince Maurits was buried in the crypt of the Oranges in the Nieuwe Kerk in Delft. The Mauritskade in The Hague is named after him.  With his older brother Willem:  3) Willem Alexander Carel Hendrik Frederik (25 augustus 1851 – 21 juni 1884)Prince Alexander was nervous and sickly from an early age. That was the reason for his mother to surround her dear Alex, with the pet name Loulou as she called him, with great care and love. This extra attention and care made him a mother's boy, which annoyed his father. Unlike his eldest brother, Prince Alexander was disciplined, intellectual and read a lot. After the death of his brother Willem, Alexander becomes Crown Prince and thus automatically a member of the Council of State (Netherlands) from June 11, 1879 until his death on June 21, 1884. At the funeral of his mother, Queen Sophie, in the Nieuwe Kerk in Delft, Alexander became beside himself with despair. Just before the coffin was carried into the crypt, Alexander came forward, clasped the coffin in both hands, and covered the wood with kisses. It was his brother Willem who managed to get him back in line.After the death of his mother in 1877 and his eldest brother in 1879, the prince became lonely. He begins to think about getting married, he wants someone who understands him completely, with whom he can talk about his problems and sorrows and to whom he can pour out his heart. Despite some planning and seeking information about suitable suitors, none of this will materialize. Prince Alexander finally died unmarried and childless at the age of 32 on 21 June 1884 from typhoid fever. Because his father, who was on a holiday trip to Germany and Switzerland with Queen Emma, his second wife, and their daughter Wilhelmina, was unwilling to interrupt his stay there, the funeral was constantly postponed. The king finally did not return until July 15, 1884. Prince Alexander was buried on 17 July 1884 in the crypt of the Oranges in the Nieuwe Kerk in Delft. His half-sister Wilhelmina was the heir to the throne from his death.    In 1998, Dutch broadcaster KRO broadcasted the television series We Alexander, which had the life of Prince Alexander as its subject. The thriller series, set in the early twentieth century, features an old gentleman played by Jacques Commandeur, who - it is suggested - might be Prince Alexander. This would not have died, but because of mental illness he was tucked away in a home. Apparently Willem III and his 1st cousin Sophie had been a mismatch and was a bad marriage from start. According to the Dutch wiki about Willem III (hereby loosely translated): "....Willem married his first cousin Princess Sophie van Württemberg on 18 June (Waterloo Day) 1839, the daughter of King Willem I of Württemberg and Catharina Paulowna. On September 4, 1840, their first child was born, a son. It turned out to be a bad marriage, partly due to Willem's barely concealed extramarital affairs, other sexual excesses and erratic character. As early as 1842, Sophie wanted to live separately from her husband. In a letter to her father-in-law, written in late summer or autumn of that year, she told him that she had been threatened and abused by her husband. He would force her to commit "outrageous acts that offend the morals and dignity of every woman". "My situation is unsustainable," Sophie continued. She asked the king to allow her "a place of refuge. I do not ask for money. I have been offered a refuge where I could live in peace (...) So let me, my child, until he is seven, it will be the need women's care." It was not granted to her. She would continue to live with her husband and bear him two more children, the first time already in 1843. This second son died in 1850. On August 25, 1851, Sophie gave birth to her third child. It did not bring marital happiness, because she wanted to get away from her husband again. On September 17 that year, Willem gave the order to find out the possibilities for this. Ultimately, on December 25, 1855, this led to the signing of a written agreement whereby – without the intervention of a judge – a legal separation was effected. The promise was also made that if Willem were to abdicate as monarch, a formal divorce would take place. Willem was assigned custody of their eldest son, with the obligation that he regularly visit his mother. The youngest son, who was four years old at the time, was placed under the custody of his mother until he was nine years old. Sophie was assigned Paleis Huis ten Bosch as a residence. In winter she would be allowed to stay in Noordeinde Palace, where Willem also lived during those months, but both would have separate living quarters and neither would be allowed to visit the other without mutual consent. Both would further refrain from 'accusations or innuendos which may be of injury to the honor or dignity of Their Persons'. On official occasions, Willem and Sophie had to keep up appearances and continue to behave as a married couple. The agreement was countersigned by some witnesses and kept hidden from the outside world....." |
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It is noteworthy that all three of the sons of King Willem III had Willem as their first name.
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It is noteworthy that all three of the sons of King Willem III had Willem as their first name.
That's right, but as you can see, a different name is used as a first name for each son. It also seems to happen sometimes for daughters (having Wilhelmine/ Wilhelmina as their 1st official name) Something similar can be seen throughout the DRF For example: (their official names, with their used 1st name in Italic) Stadtholder Willem V of Orange-Nassau & Wilhelmina of Prussia (1751-1820)- unnamed son (March 23, 1769 – March 24, 1769) - Frederica Louise Wilhelmina (1770-1819) - unnamed son (stillborn 6 August 1771) - Willem Frederik (1772-1843); the later King Willem I - Willem George Frederik (1774-1799) Willem I & Wilhelmina of Prussia had 5 children:- Willem Frederik George Lodewijk (1792-1849). Married Anna Pavlovna of Russia. The later King William II. - Willem Frederik Karel (1797-1881). - Wilhelmina Frederika Louise Paulina Charlotte (1800-1806) - Stillborn son (August 30, 1806). - Wilhelmina Frederica Louisa Charlotte Marianne (1810–1883). Willem II & Anna Pavlovna of Russia had five children, four of whom lived to adulthood:- Willem Alexander Paul Frederik Lodewijk - Willem Alexander Frederik Constantijn Nicolaas Michiel - Willem Frederik Hendrik- Willem Alexander Frederik Ernst Casimir- Wilhelmine Marie Sophie Louise Willem III & Sophie of Württemberg had 3 children:- Willem Nicolaas Alexander Frederik Karel Hendrik - Willem Frederik Maurits Alexander Hendrik Karel - Willem Alexander Carel Hendrik Frederik Willem III & Emma of Waldeck-Pyrmont had 1 child:- Wilhelmina Helena Pauline Maria |
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When Queen Wilhelmina was formally introduced to Prince Henry (Heinrich) in Schwarzburg, Prince Frederick William of Prussia was also invited.
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