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« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2019, 05:23:13 PM »

Queen Juliana was Queen of The Netherlands from 1948 until 1980. She may have been named after Juliana, Countess of Stolberg-Wernigerode (1506-1580), who was the mother of William the Silent.

According to the Dutch language Wiki, I know not really objective and all, she was indeed named after Juliana zu Stolberg, mother of Willem de Zwijger.

In addition the youngest child and only daughter of princess Christina (who was formerly known as Marijke) is named after her grandmother: Juliana (Guillermo).

Christina's full name is Maria Christina. At first she was known as 'Marijke', Marijke is a Dutch feminine given name. It is originally a diminutive of Mary/Maria. Later on she decided to go by her 2nd name Christina.

Marie Louise of Hesse-Kassel and Johan Willem Friso, Prince of Orange were the parents of Stadhouder Willem IV, ancestors of the current Dutch Royals. Marie Louise was nicknamed Marijke Meu (Aunt Mary) in Frisia. As Marie Louise and Johan Willem Friso lived at the Stadhouder Court in Leeuwarden, Frisia at first.
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« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2019, 05:35:50 PM »

I have to confess (yet again) that the first time I heard the announcement of Amalia's names, I thought they said Catharina - Analia  Blush Blush

Well, that would be unsuitable for a heir to the Dutch throne  Laugh bounce
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« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2019, 05:54:40 PM »

Very original was William I. of Orange-Nassau, who named his daughters Catharina Belgica, Charlotte Flandrina, Charlotte Brabantina and Emilia Antwerpiana after the various regions of the country.

Frederick V. (the winter King of Bohemia) had a daughter called Louise Hollandine.
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« Reply #63 on: April 11, 2019, 01:33:13 AM »

Prince Eitel Friedrich of Prussia (1885-1942) was the second son of Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany. Eitel Friedrich had been the names of Counts of Hohenzollern.
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« Reply #64 on: April 11, 2019, 10:57:56 AM »

Prince Eitel Friedrich of Prussia (1885-1942) was the second son of Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany. Eitel Friedrich had been the names of Counts of Hohenzollern.

I've read that Eitel can't be given as individual name, but has always to be followed by another real name. It's not actually a name in German, but rather a description of a state (how a person is like).

Eitel means vain in English. So it's the Vain Friedrich.
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« Reply #65 on: April 11, 2019, 01:30:55 PM »

And "Vain Friedrich" would be "Vain Frederic" if translated completely - which leads to wonder if we could not just use the age old tradition of adding  suitable and descriptive adjectives to the name:
Drunk Frederic and Eitel Mary or Willem the Dull and Bloody-good-time Maxima?
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« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2019, 01:44:14 AM »

Prince Eitel Friedrich of Prussia (1885-1942) was the second son of Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany. Eitel Friedrich had been the names of Counts of Hohenzollern.

I've read that Eitel can't be given as individual name, but has always to be followed by another real name. It's not actually a name in German, but rather a description of a state (how a person is like).

Eitel means vain in English. So it's the Vain Friedrich.
     
 
Kristallinchen, Thank you for the informative history.  Star
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« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2019, 07:17:34 AM »

And "Vain Friedrich" would be "Vain Frederic" if translated completely - which leads to wonder if we could not just use the age old tradition of adding  suitable and descriptive adjectives to the name:
Drunk Frederic and Eitel Mary or Willem the Dull and Bloody-good-time Maxima?

Eitel Mary fits her well. Laughing
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« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2019, 07:18:28 AM »

Prince Eitel Friedrich of Prussia (1885-1942) was the second son of Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany. Eitel Friedrich had been the names of Counts of Hohenzollern.

I've read that Eitel can't be given as individual name, but has always to be followed by another real name. It's not actually a name in German, but rather a description of a state (how a person is like).

Eitel means vain in English. So it's the Vain Friedrich.
     
 
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« Reply #69 on: April 15, 2019, 11:38:34 PM »

How often does a Princess have the name of Renate? Princess Sophie Renate Reuss of Kostritz (1887-1956) was the daughter of Charles Alexander, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach.
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« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2019, 01:29:55 PM »

When the first name of the 2nd daughter of WA and Maxima was announced (Alexia), there were people who wondered if there was a connection with an illegitimate daughter of Prince Bernhard (WA's grandfather). This illegitimate daughter is called Alexia Grinda.

But WA stated that Maxima wanted to name this daughter after WA. Apparently the name Alexander (without Willem) is used within a small circle. Alexia is therefore a derivative of Alexander, part of her father's name.
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« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2019, 01:45:11 AM »

Infante Pedro Carlos of Spain and Portugal was Pedro Carlos Antonio Rafael Jose Javier Francisco Juan Nepomuceno Tomas de Villanueva Marcos Marcelino Vicente Ferrer Raymundo. His grandfathers were King Carlos III of Spain and King Pedro III of Portugal.
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« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2019, 11:44:17 AM »

Within the Dutch Royal Family it is a bit acracadabra with the last names:

1.
- Beatrix Wilhelmina Armgard, princess (queen) of the Netherlands, princess of Oranje-Nassau, princess van Lippe-Biesterfeld
- Claus, prince of the Netherlands, Jonkheer van Amsberg

1. a)
- Willem-Alexander, king of the Netherlands, prince of Oranje-Nassau, jonkheer van Amsberg
- Máxima, queen (princess) of the Netherlands, princess of Oranje-Nassau, madam (mrs.) van Amsberg (née Zorreguieta Cerruti)
- Catharina-Amalia, princess of Oranje, princess of the Netherlands, princess of Oranje-Nassau.
- Alexia, princess of the Netherlands, princess of Oranje-Nassau
- Ariane, princess of the Netherlands, princess of Oranje-Nassau.

1. b)
- Johan Friso, prince of Oranje-Nassau, count of Oranje-Nassau, jonkheer van Amsberg.
- Mabel, princess of Oranje-Nassau, countess of Oranje-Nassau, madam (mrs.) van Amsberg (née Wisse-Smit) (in daily life she often uses Mabel van Oranje (= Mabel of Orange))
- Luana, countess of Oranje-Nassau, Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg
- Zaria, countess of Oranje-Nassau, Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg

1. c)
- Constantijn, Prince of the Netherlands, prince of Oranje-Nassau, Jonkheer van Amsberg
- Laurentien, princess of the Netherlands, princess of Oranje-Nassau, madam (mrs.) van Amsberg-Brinkhorst (née Brinkhorst)
- Eloise, countess of Oranje-Nassau, jonkvrouw van Amsberg
- Claus-Casimir count of Oranje-Nassau, jonkheer van Amsberg
- Leonore, countess of Oranje-Nassau, jonkvrouw van Amsberg

2.
- Irene, princess of the Netherlands, princess van Oranje-Nassau, princess van Lippe-Biesterfeld (during her marriage: Irene, princess of Bourbon-Parma) (in daily life she prefers Irene van Lippe-Biesterfeld)
- Carlos-Hugo, of Bourbon-Parma, duke of Parma and Piacenza

2. a)
- Carlos, prince of Bourbon-Parma, duke of Parma and Piacenza
- Annemarie, princess of Bourbon-Parma (née Gualthérie van Weezel)
- Louise, princess of Bourbon-Parma
- Cecilia, princess of Bourbon-Parma
- Carlos, prince of Bourbon-Parma

2. b)
- Margarita, Mrs. ten Cate (princess of Bourbon-Parma)
- 1. Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn
- 2. Tjalling ten Cate
- Julia ten Cate
- Paola ten Cate

2. c)
- Jaime, prince of Bourbon-Parma
- Viktoria, princess of Bourbon-Parma (née: Cservenyak)
- Zita, princess of Bourbon-Parma
- Gloria, princess of Bourbon-Parma

2. d)
- Maria Carolina, Mrs. Brenninkmeijer (princess of Bourbon-Parma)
- Albert Brenninkmeijer
- Alaïa-Maria Brenninkmeijer
- Xavier Brenninkmeijer

3.
- Margriet, princess of the Netherlands, princess of Oranje-Nassau, princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld
- Pieter van Vollenhoven

3. a)
- Maurits, prince of Oranje-Nassau, Van Vollenhoven
- Marilène, princess of Oranje-Nassau, Van Vollenhoven - van den Broek (née Van den Broek)
- Anna van Lippe-Biesterfeld, Van Vollenhoven (her official 1st name is Anastasia)
- Lucas van Lippe-Biesterfeld, Van Vollenhoven
- Felicia van Lippe-Biesterfeld, Van Vollenhoven

3. b)
- Bernhard, prince of Oranje-Nassau, Van Vollenhoven
- Annette, princess of Oranje-Nassau, Van Vollenhoven (née Sekrève)
- Isabella van Vollenhoven
- Samuel van Vollenhoven
- Benjamin van Vollenhoven

3. c)
- Pieter-Christiaan, prince of Oranje-Nassau, Van Vollenhoven
- Anita, princess of Oranje-Nassau, Van Vollenhoven (née Van Eijk)
- Emma van Vollenhoven
- Pieter van Vollenhoven

3. d)
- Floris, prince of Oranje-Nassau, Van Vollenhoven
- Aimée, princess of Oranje-Nassau, Van Vollenhoven (née: Söhngen)
- Magali van Vollenhoven
- Eliane van Vollenhoven
- Willem Jan van Vollenhoven

4.
- Christina, princess of the Netherlands, princess van Oranje-Nassau, princess van Lippe-Biesterfeld (during her marriage: Christina Guillermo)
- Jorge Guillermo


4. a)
- Bernardo Guillermo
- Eva Guillermo (née: Prinz-Valdes or Valdes) (according to rumors they are separated)
- Isabel Guillermo
- Julián Guillermo

4. b)
- Nicolás Guillermo

4. c)
- Juliana Guillermo
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« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2019, 01:26:48 AM »

Lothair II (835-869) was the King of Lotharingia from 855 until 869. He was the second son of Holy Roman Emperor Lothair I. Lotharingia was named after King Lothair II.
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« Reply #74 on: May 01, 2019, 01:43:11 AM »

What Prince is given the name of Ponce? Prince Emanuel Marie Ponce Francois Faucigny-Lucinge was born in 1866.
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