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« on: April 21, 2017, 08:08:17 PM »

Who will be crowned the smartest? From psychologist Queen Mathilde to finanical whizz Maxima, these are Europe's CLEVEREST royals (but how does Kate measure up?)

Crown Princess Mary of Denmark worked as advertising exec before she wed
Queen Letizia of Spain has masters in audiovisual journalism
Princess Eugenie got best A-level results with two As and a B
Kate worked part time as accessories buyer and for her parents




Marrying into royalty generally means leaving whatever career you had behind for a life of unveiling plaques and smiling benignly on state visits.

So it's easy to forget that some royal women had very impressive careers before they gave it all up for charity work and raising their families.

From multilingual Queen Mathilde of Belgium, a former speech therapist who has a masters degree in psychology to Queen Maxima of The Netherlands who held high ranking positions at big banks, these women have very impressive academic credentials and career achievements.

But how do our own royal family, including former PR consultant Sophie Wessex and Kate, who worked part time for Jigsaw, measure up?

Kate achieved two As and a B in her A Levels, enabling her to go to St Andrews University where she studied history of art and graduated in 2005 with a 2:1.

Initially, Kate attempted to set up her own children’s clothing line as a subsidiary to her parents’ company Party Pieces, but she was forced to close it before it launched for financial reasons.

In 2006, it was announced that she'd taken up a position as a part-time accessories buyer for Jigsaw owned by her parents’ close friends John and Belle Robinson.

However, she quit after less than a year and announced that she wanted to pursue a career as a photographer. There was speculation she would take up a job offer to train under Royal photographer Mario Testino in New York, but instead ended up photographing new stock for the Party Pieces website. She was also said to be involved in catalogue design, production and marketing, but in 2008 it was reported that the Queen was concerned by Kate's lack of a discernible job.

The monarch made it known to William that she felt his girlfriend should be settled into a career before he proposed, but when the couple became engaged two years later Kate was playing the role of housewife while her royal beau worked as a search and rescue pilot in Anglesey.

Since their marriage her public role has increased and she balances royal duties with looking after the couple's two children George and Charlotte.

She is royal patron of a number of charities including East Anglia's Children's Hospices, The Art Room and The National Portrait Gallery. 

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 08:08:43 PM »



The Queen has always been especially fond of Prince Edward's wife and was said to be particularly impressed by the fact she was a hard-working career girl before they got married.

After training as a secretary, the then Sophie Rhys Jones embarked on a career in public relations, working for companies such as Capital Radio, The Quentin Bell Organisation and MacLaurin Communications & Media. In 1996, she branched out on her own and set up her own agency RJH Public Relations, with her business partner, Murray Harkin where she continued to work following her marriage to Prince Edward.

However, it all started to unravel following an indiscreet business talk Sophie had with a Middle Eastern man whom she believed was a potential PR client but who was, in fact, an undercover News of the World reporter.

Chatting in a London hotel about the famous people she knew, in hope of securing a £240,000-a-year contract, she affectionately described the Queen as 'the old dear' and the Queen Mother as 'the old lady'. In light of these indiscretions she scaled back her commercial work and took up the mantle of royal duties full time in 2002. 
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 08:09:15 PM »




Prince Andrew's older daughter graduated with a 2:1 degree degree in History and History of Ideas degree from Goldsmiths College, London in 2011. According to her CV on business website LinkedIn, after leaving university Beatrice worked between September 2011 and January 2012 as a 'research associate' for her mother's charity Children In Crisis.

She moved to investment firm Cabot Square Capital in February 2012 but quit 16 months later. She took her next job, as an 'international production analyst' at Sony Pictures, in January 2014. But she quit the £19,500-a-year post after a year. Palace aides said afterwards that she was 'exploring her career options' – but that didn't stop her enjoying a string of luxury holidays.

Between December 2014 and December 2015 the princess – who receives no government funding – racked up 18 foreign jaunts including a trip on Roman Abramovich's £1.5billion super-yacht in Ibiza. Her next position was with Manhattan investment firm Sandbridge Capital, but she turned her back on her fourth job in five years to launch her own startup business consultancy.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 08:09:47 PM »




Prince Andrew's younger daughter broke royal family records by achieving two As and a B in her A-levels after studying art, English literature and history of art.

Eugenie graduated from Newcastle University with a 2:1 degree in English and history of art five years ago. She went on to work in Manhattan for online auction company Paddle8.

The Queen’s granddaughter has been promoted to the role of director of the Hauser & Wirth contemporary art gallery in London. It comes less than two years after she joined the Mayfair gallery as an associate director.

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Before meeting her husband King Willem Alexander of The Netherlands, Argentinian-born Maxima was pursuing a high-flying career in finance.

While studying for her degree in economics from the Pontifical Catholic Universit, she worked for for Mercado Abierto Electrónico S.A, an electronic securities and foreign-currency trading market.

She also balanced her studies with working in the sales department of Boston Securities SA in Buenos Aires, conducting research on software for financial markets.

After graduating, she took up a job with HSBC in New York where she rose to vice president of institutional sales for Latin America.
Her next move was to Dresdner Kleinwort Benson in New York where she worked as vice president of the emerging markets division, before moving to Deutsche Bank in Brussels.

She is fluent in Spanish, her first language, English and Dutch and can speak conversational French.

Thanks to her past career, Maxima has been appointed as a UN Special Advocate for Inclusive Finance for Development by Ban Ki Moon.

She's also an honorary patron of the G20 Global Partnership for Financial Inclusion (GPFI) since June 2011.

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2017, 08:10:54 PM »




Mathilde d'Udekem d'Acoz earned a diploma with high honours and set up her own practice in Belgium when she was just 22-years-old.
She then went on to take a masters in psychology and continued her studies after marrying Prince Philippe, the heir to the Belgian throne, graduating in 2002 with honours.

The Queen can speak four languages, French, Dutch, English and Italian.
 
She has a special interest in children, thanks to her speech therapy work, and is the World Health Organisation’s Special Representative for Immunization.

She also takes part in the annual World Economic Forum in Davos and has led economic missions to the US and Vietnam with King Philippe.

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Before meeting the heir to the Spanish throne, Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano whose father Jesús José Ortiz Álvarez and stepmother Ana Togores are both journalists, enjoyed a lengthy career in TV and newspapers.

She completed a BA in journalism, followed by a masters in audiovisual journalism.

After a stint at Asturian daily paper, La Nueva España, she went on to work for ABC, a popular national newspaper that enjoys the third largest circulation in Spain.

Next came a stint at Spanish news agency EFE before a move to Guadalajara in Mexico saw her take on a role on local paper, Siglo 21.
Back in Spain a year later, she worked for the Spanish version of Bloomberg, a news channel and agency specialising in economics, before moving to CNN+.

By the time she met her husband-to-be, Letizia was working for popular TV channel 24 Horas, where along with anchoring the popular Telediario 2 evening news bulletin.

She reported on a wide range of breaking news events, among them the 2000 US presidential elections and the 9/11 attacks.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2017, 08:12:14 PM »

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Mary Donaldson studied at the University of Tasmania and graduated with a combined Bachelor of Commerce and Bachelor of Laws degree.

After graduating she worked as an account executive for various firms before being appointed as account director for international agency Young and Rubicam in 1999.

After meeting Prince Frederik, Princess Mary worked for Belle Property as a sales director, before moving to Paris to teach English at a business school.

In 2002, she moved to Denmark permanently and was employed by Microsoft Business Solutions as a project consultant.

A career-driven woman, Princess Mary worked up until her engagement to Prince Frederik in 2003, when she officially left her prior life and career behind and became a royal.

She also studied Danish as a foreign language so she could embrace her husband's native tongue.  

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 03:11:55 AM »

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Mary Donaldson studied at the University of Tasmania and graduated with a combined Bachelor of Commerce and Bachelor of Laws degree.

After graduating she worked as an account executive for various firms before being appointed as account director for international agency Young and Rubicam in 1999.

After meeting Prince Frederik, Princess Mary worked for Belle Property as a sales director, before moving to Paris to teach English at a business school.

In 2002, she moved to Denmark permanently and was employed by Microsoft Business Solutions as a project consultant.

A career-driven woman, Princess Mary worked up until her engagement to Prince Frederik in 2003, when she officially left her prior life and career behind and became a royal.

She also studied Danish as a foreign language so she could embrace her husband's native tongue.  

Her resume is full of BS. Career-driven woman?  Laugh bounce She didn't have one real job since she met Fred. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 04:06:58 AM »

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Mary Donaldson studied at the University of Tasmania and graduated with a combined Bachelor of Commerce and Bachelor of Laws degree.

After graduating she worked as an account executive for various firms before being appointed as account director for international agency Young and Rubicam in 1999.

After meeting Prince Frederik, Princess Mary worked for Belle Property as a sales director, before moving to Paris to teach English at a business school.

In 2002, she moved to Denmark permanently and was employed by Microsoft Business Solutions as a project consultant.

A career-driven woman, Princess Mary worked up until her engagement to Prince Frederik in 2003, when she officially left her prior life and career behind and became a royal.

She also studied Danish as a foreign language so she could embrace her husband's native tongue.  

Her resume is full of BS. Career-driven woman?  Laugh bounce She didn't have one real job since she met Fred. 

Teach English at a business school?? Whistle
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2017, 07:09:57 AM »

What a great thread, especially for those of us still learning about everyone!
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2017, 08:59:38 AM »

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Mary Donaldson studied at the University of Tasmania and graduated with a combined Bachelor of Commerce and Bachelor of Laws degree.

After graduating she worked as an account executive for various firms before being appointed as account director for international agency Young and Rubicam in 1999.

After meeting Prince Frederik, Princess Mary worked for Belle Property as a sales director, before moving to Paris to teach English at a business school.

In 2002, she moved to Denmark permanently and was employed by Microsoft Business Solutions as a project consultant.

A career-driven woman, Princess Mary worked up until her engagement to Prince Frederik in 2003, when she officially left her prior life and career behind and became a royal.

She also studied Danish as a foreign language so she could embrace her husband's native tongue.  



A fake job at Navision where she was very rarely seen by her colleagues, because she was spending most of her time on vacation with Fred. It helped that Navisions's boss was a close friend of Fred.
And during that time she was also living in a luxury appartment in Langelinie ( one of Copenhagen's most expensive places). There is no way a Project Manager salary could allow her to rent a flat in such a place ! Fred was clearly paying for all her expenses.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2017, 10:18:55 AM »

And, if I may add, Mosh is NOT our queen. I hope she never will be.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2017, 12:57:56 PM »

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Mary Donaldson studied at the University of Tasmania and graduated with a combined Bachelor of Commerce and Bachelor of Laws degree.

After graduating she worked as an account executive for various firms before being appointed as account director for international agency Young and Rubicam in 1999.

After meeting Prince Frederik, Princess Mary worked for Belle Property as a sales director, before moving to Paris to teach English at a business school.

In 2002, she moved to Denmark permanently and was employed by Microsoft Business Solutions as a project consultant.

A career-driven woman, Princess Mary worked up until her engagement to Prince Frederik in 2003, when she officially left her prior life and career behind and became a royal.

She also studied Danish as a foreign language so she could embrace her husband's native tongue.  

Her resume is full of BS. Career-driven woman?  Laugh bounce She didn't have one real job since she met Fred. 

She didn't have great jobs before, either..... her career in Australia has been so exaggerated and "beefed-up"! From what I understand, she was a property manager at Belle..... ie she collected the rent and did inspections on rental properties..... she was living in a dodgy sharehouse for goodness sakes!!
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2017, 03:15:36 PM »

Some additional items with regard to Maxima:

- Until the end of her teens she follows bilingual education (Spanish & English) at the Northlands College in Buenos Aires (Argentina)
- In 1989 Maxima starts with the study Economics at the Catholic University of Argentina (Pontificia Universidad Católica Argentina)
- As a student, she worked with Mercado Abierto S.A. in 1989 and 1990, where she conducted research into software for financial markets.
- From 1992 to 1995 she worked on the sales department of Boston Securities S.A. in Buenos Aires.
- During the same period she gave English classes to children and adults, and mathematics lectures to high school students and first year students.
- After her studies Maxima moved to New York, from July 1996 to March 1998 she was Vice President of Latin American Institutional Sales at HSBC James Capel Inc.
- Subsequently until 1999 she was Vice President, Emerging Markets at Dresdner Kleinwort Benson bank
- After that Maxima held the position of Deputy President of Institutional Sales at the Deutsche Bank until August 2000
- In 2000 (?), after meeting WA, Maxima moved to Brussels, Belgium and worked until April 2001 at the European office of the Deutsche Bank.
- Maxima impressed Dutch people by being able to speak relatively fluent Dutch very quickly, already using some Dutch at the engagement interview (" Een beetje dom")
- Apparently before her marriage Maxima followed the socalled " Inburgeringscursus voor immigranten" (= Citizenship education for immigrants). She learned more and improve her Dutch and deepened herself in the topic of the Dutch society.
- Máxima wanted to do something for women from abroad, on which the Committee on Women's Participation from Ethnic Minorities (PaVEM) was established. Since July 1, 2003, the princess was a member of this temporary committee, which advised the government on the integration of ethnic minorities. She seemed to focus on issues surrounding the integration of immigrant women. The commission was terminated on 1 July 2005.
- Máxima took part in the Council of State in October 2004, the highest advisory board of the Dutch government. She has since been able to attend and participate in the deliberations, but she is not a member and has no voting rights.
- Since 2009, she is the official advocate of the United Nations Secretary-General for inclusive funding for development. In that capacity, she gives advice to the Secretary-General to make financial services available to all over the world. Due to her efforts, she received the German Media Prize 2013 on 21 March 2014 in Baden-Baden

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