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« Reply #60 on: December 31, 2017, 08:54:27 PM »

The toothpaste story was when he had a broken arm. Itís otherwise a myth.

Charles was told no at many turns with his charity work, and used his naval pension to get his Trust off the ground, not the Duchy fortune. He was expected to do nothing and follow the examples of previous heirs. He created a role for the heir instead of sitting around on his hands waiting and wasting time. Sadly his sons havenít learned from his example, especially William.

Philip had his trials too and was treated horribly by the grey men and his nasty mother in law. He has done great things playing second fiddle. It doesnít excuse his terrible treatment of his oldest son, which continues. Charles took him to Poundbury a few years back and her said something about how it was a stupid waste. He was poorly served by being forced to attend a school unsuitable for his temperament and interests. Philip is a rare breed and wanted Charles to be like him. Heís not. Square hole, round peg... Anne is like him.  

As for George, heís a freaking child. His father bullies him it seems like Philip bullied Charles. Itís sad to see that sweet spirit and th anxiety in a little one. You nurture your kids and donít try to change them.
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George is a child yes, but you must be seeing things I do not know because I do not see any bullying least of all from William. The kid probably has people bowing and curtsying to him even now, his parents don't disappear for months like the Queen and DOE did, in fact the William and Kate seem to be very hands on compared to previous generations. They have a nanny, Carole Middleton practically lives with them, they have staff.  In what way is George bullied. He was a smart, outgoing child. Now he is anxious unlike his sister. He is also naughty like a normal child during Pippa's wedding and was told off by Kate like a normal mom. I don't see anything resembling Prince Charles and DOE with William and George.

And why is he anxious? Look at that sweet little boy and the way he's treated in public--scolded, told off, talked about with language like naughty, bad, loud vs his sister "the angel from heaven" as William calls her. It's a lot to live up to for a child. William and Kate talk about him as if they'd rather he weren't around, and nothing they have ever said has ever been positive. Same crap, different parent as far as I am concerned. I don't think either of them are hands on--they seem very awkward with their children, especially Kate, really. It's all about PR and their public image as perfect parents. I'm sure the nannies and her mother do all the heavy lifting and W&K do the fun stuff when they feel like it, as in the days of the aristocracy. It's the same as when HM was a parent. You show up for baths and bed, and sometimes playtime if you feel up for it or have the time! I see the same familial dysfunction from the Windsors there and the Spencers too, it's terrible for children.

Well obviously we are seeing different things. From the time George was a child, his parents have handled him even though they have nannies. The Australian tour when George was a baby with Kate as he is laying his head on her shoulder, George meeting the Obamas. His little anxious face looks at his dad for reassurance while shaking hands with the Obamas. All three of them are at his level. The one where he plays with the horse they gave him, he looks at Kate. When Kate, George and William went to visit something to do with helicopters and planes, George was anxious and Kate carried him even though he was around 3. Most American kids would be in a stroller, kids that age and size are rarely carried. When William takes him to school, George lets go of his hand only to shake with his teacher I presume then immediately reaches for his father. The most infamous one where William sits down at George's level in the balcony to explain something and was told off by the Queen to stand up. Kate picking up Charlotte mid tantrum on the runway is the action of a seasoned mother not one who shows up for baths and playtime. William and Kate always bend or sit at their kids level which I have never seen any Royal do. They are definitely hands on parents based on pictures I've seen. Are they parents of the year, probably not. But even though they have a nanny they know their kids more than bath and the occasional play time. They know how to soothe them, their kids turn to them when they are anxious and most of all they are parents first and foremost in public with them, not Duke and Duchess.

So what if Kate told off George during Pippa's wedding. He was naughty. Every responsible parent does that. Just because George is heir or anxious or looked sad because he was told off, it makes him like all naughty kids and Kate a normal mom. I see pictures time and again and William and Kate seem like good, hands on parents who have help more than average. Not perfect parents,

George comes from generations of anxious people. Apparently his dad, Uncle Harry, grandpa Charles all have ways of coping with anxiety with gestures of comfort. It must be a nerve racking thing to face a wall of humanity even if they are mostly adoring plus camera, press. But George will be better equipped I think because of his parents. A Nanny can't teach him how to cope with crowds, press or cameras. Now Princess Charlotte seems like a rockstar and a natural like her Gan Gan the Queen.
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« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2018, 08:02:08 PM »

What a cheap interpretation of the Kennedys!
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« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2018, 09:43:31 PM »

The toothpaste story was when he had a broken arm. Itís otherwise a myth.

Sorry, but the toothpaste story is neither a myth nor just when Charles broke his arm. Stephen Barry, Charles' longtime valet, in his memoir recounts being sent back, by private jet, to a stop they had just left on a royal tour because the specially toothpaste squeezing apparatus he used daily  for Charles' toothbrush had been left behind. A bit of hypocrisy on the part of the  'green' POW too.
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« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2018, 12:05:00 AM »

The toothpaste story was when he had a broken arm. Itís otherwise a myth.

Sorry, but the toothpaste story is neither a myth nor just when Charles broke his arm. Stephen Barry, Charles' longtime valet, in his memoir recounts being sent back, by private jet, to a stop they had just left on a royal tour because the specially toothpaste squeezing apparatus he used daily  for Charles' toothbrush had been left behind. A bit of hypocrisy on the part of the  'green' POW too.

Oh dear!  Did he really waste all that aviation fuel and manpower getting him to fetch his toothpaste squeezer?  I hope not.  I like Charles, but I realise he's not perfect.   

Incidentally, a quick google for that book reveals that Prince Philip also likes the toothpaste squeezed onto his brush, and that Charles' device is silver and has inscribed with the PoW feathers.  Another quick google reveals that there are quite a number of different toothpaste-squeezing devices available, to suit all price ranges.   I have never felt the need to use anything other than the equipment I was born with: my fingers.  But I suppose a woman who bought herself a silver candle snuffer should not be too critical of other people's quirks.
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« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2018, 12:07:41 AM »

The toothpaste story was when he had a broken arm. Itís otherwise a myth.

Sorry, but the toothpaste story is neither a myth nor just when Charles broke his arm. Stephen Barry, Charles' longtime valet, in his memoir recounts being sent back, by private jet, to a stop they had just left on a royal tour because the specially toothpaste squeezing apparatus he used daily  for Charles' toothbrush had been left behind. A bit of hypocrisy on the part of the  'green' POW too.

Oh dear!  Did he really waste all that aviation fuel and manpower getting him to fetch his toothpaste squeezer?  I hope not.  I like Charles, but I realise he's not perfect.   

Incidentally, a quick google for that book reveals that Prince Philip also likes the toothpaste squeezed onto his brush, and that Charles' device is silver and has inscribed with the PoW feathers.  Another quick google reveals that there are quite a number of different toothpaste-squeezing devices available, to suit all price ranges.   I have never felt the need to use anything other than the equipment I was born with: my fingers.  But I suppose a woman who bought herself a silver candle snuffer should not be too critical of other people's quirks.

OT but if my acolyte days taught me anything, a good candle snuffer is a necessity not a luxury.   
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« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2018, 12:46:24 AM »

The toothpaste story was when he had a broken arm. Itís otherwise a myth.

Sorry, but the toothpaste story is neither a myth nor just when Charles broke his arm. Stephen Barry, Charles' longtime valet, in his memoir recounts being sent back, by private jet, to a stop they had just left on a royal tour because the specially toothpaste squeezing apparatus he used daily  for Charles' toothbrush had been left behind. A bit of hypocrisy on the part of the  'green' POW too.

Oh dear!  Did he really waste all that aviation fuel and manpower getting him to fetch his toothpaste squeezer?  I hope not.  I like Charles, but I realise he's not perfect.   

Incidentally, a quick google for that book reveals that Prince Philip also likes the toothpaste squeezed onto his brush, and that Charles' device is silver and has inscribed with the PoW feathers.  Another quick google reveals that there are quite a number of different toothpaste-squeezing devices available, to suit all price ranges.   I have never felt the need to use anything other than the equipment I was born with: my fingers.  But I suppose a woman who bought herself a silver candle snuffer should not be too critical of other people's quirks.

OT but if my acolyte days taught me anything, a good candle snuffer is a necessity not a luxury.   

I concur. Especially as someone who loves candles during winter and is not posh enough to snuff it, but blows it with an unlady like huff and puff , rather like the three little pigs.  Blush. I am going to buy myself a snuffer in the interest of my lungs and wicks.  Grin
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« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2018, 12:49:11 AM »

The toothpaste story was when he had a broken arm. Itís otherwise a myth.

Sorry, but the toothpaste story is neither a myth nor just when Charles broke his arm. Stephen Barry, Charles' longtime valet, in his memoir recounts being sent back, by private jet, to a stop they had just left on a royal tour because the specially toothpaste squeezing apparatus he used daily  for Charles' toothbrush had been left behind. A bit of hypocrisy on the part of the  'green' POW too.

Oh dear!  Did he really waste all that aviation fuel and manpower getting him to fetch his toothpaste squeezer?  I hope not.  I like Charles, but I realise he's not perfect.   

Incidentally, a quick google for that book reveals that Prince Philip also likes the toothpaste squeezed onto his brush, and that Charles' device is silver and has inscribed with the PoW feathers.  Another quick google reveals that there are quite a number of different toothpaste-squeezing devices available, to suit all price ranges.   I have never felt the need to use anything other than the equipment I was born with: my fingers.  But I suppose a woman who bought herself a silver candle snuffer should not be too critical of other people's quirks.

Now I feel like a valet and not a mother. I have little people I squeeze tooth paste for. I am going to look up those devices in the interest of my fingers. Silver plated is a bonus. 
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« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2018, 12:10:16 AM »

Never thought of my silver candle snuffer as a luxury comparable to a tooth paste squeezer. Hhm, interesting. There are several Squeezers that are actually quite smart: they help you get the most out of those plastic tubes without having to resort to cutting them open or throwing them away with a good third of paste still inside - but I presume, Charles uses them differrently? On second thought, why should Charles care how his valet gets the paste out of the tube? Haven't we all heard the rumour that the valet puts the paste ready on the brush? Charles probably doesn't even know in what container the paste comes in... Strange....
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