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« on: June 19, 2019, 02:39:45 PM »

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Today, June 19, four men were charged with shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over Ukraine. Presented in the Netherlands

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48691488

The NOS blog about the press conference and related, in Dutch:
https://nos.nl/liveblog/2...tappen-tegen-rusland.html



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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2019, 05:32:12 PM »

This afternoon the MH17 disaster, 5 years later, was remembered at the National Monument in the Netherlands:

https://www.nu.nl/binnenl...nument-in-vijfhuizen.html

"MH17 disaster commemorated at National Monument in Vijfhuizen

The MH17 disaster was officially commemorated on Wednesday afternoon at the National Monument MH17 in Vijfhuizen, North Holland. During the commemoration, among others, Prime Minister Mark Rutte gave a speech and relatives laid flowers at the monument.

Piet Ploeg, the chairman of Stichting Vliegramp MH17, spoke on behalf of the relatives and opened the memorial, in which around twelve hundred people were present. "We look back on the past five years on a day like today, a period in which a lot has happened; in our personal lives and in the world around us."

In his speech, Ploeg considered, among other things, the ongoing criminal investigation, the realization of the monument and making new memories together.

"Five years sound like 'it's been five years ago', but I know that for many it feels like just five years ago. The lack remains great; the confrontation with that terrible time in 2014 also remains great. Five years also brings be aware that you can go back to normal life and there is room for other things. "

Rutte admires patient's relatives

Prime Minister Rutte expressed his admiration for the patience of the relatives during the investigation into who can be held responsible for the MH17 disaster. "Today I want to express my deep respect and gratitude for the courage and patience with which you walk this path."

"The feeling is that this must happen quickly, while the mind prescribes care," said Rutte. "Because the road to justice runs through tenacity and unity, through self-control and controlled emotion."

He added to continue "that way" with all that is in us "on that road."

"We have grown up, you have remained small"

After the Prime Minister's speech, the names of the 298 victims of the air disaster were read. It caused a lot of emotions with the relatives.

At the place where the names were read, there are 298 trees. They were planted in 2016 by relatives of the victims. Sunflowers are in bloom around the memorial. The seeds of the flowers come from the field in Ukraine, where the device crashed.

After a minute of silence had been held around 3.20 pm, the time that the plane crashed in 2014, brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces and friends told about their memories of the young victims of the disaster.

"We have grown, only you have remained small," one of the young relatives said in tears.

Grapperhaus and Blok also present

It is the fifth time that the 298 victims who were on the downed plane in 2014 have been commemorated.

Prime Minister Rutte was not only present at the commemoration. Minister of Justice and Security, and Minister of Foreign Affairs Grapperhaus, among others, were also present on behalf of the government.

In addition, there were also Khadija Arib (chairman of the Lower House), Fred Westerbeke (chief prosecutor), Wilbert Paulissen (head of the international JIT investigation team), Pieter-Jaap Aalbersberg (National Coordinator for Counterterrorism and Security) and Jeroen Dijsselbloem (chairman of the Dutch Investigation Council for Security) at the commemoration…."
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2019, 05:38:17 PM »

https://nos.nl/video/2293...htoffers-voorgelezen.html

"Survivors commemorate victims MH17, all victims read aloud

The private memorial was in Vijfhuizen, where for two years there has been a special memorial forest for the 298 victims."

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2020, 11:44:09 AM »

The MH17 trial has started today in the Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61FbFDgzY80
https://www.courtmh17.com/en/live-stream.html

"...Russia says Australians falsified evidence from MH17 wreckage as trial begins of men accused of shooting down aircraft.."
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2020, 03:46:25 PM »

Today, July 17, 2020 it is already 6 years ago that MH17 crashed in the Ukraine. It is in general assumed the plane was shot out of the air by a rocket (BUK rocket).And this year the process against the supposedly suspects (who aren't present at court, but safe in sound in Russia and East of Ukraine; rebelterritority). will continue.

https://nos.nl/artikel/23...tilte-nog-krachtiger.html





MH17 commemoration with hardly any next of kin: 'Minute silence even more powerful'

The MH17 National Monument in Vijfhuizen commemorates the air crash in Ukraine for the sixth year. For the first time, there were hardly any relatives present: because of the corona virus, there were only four board members of the Stichting Vliegramp MH17 and a trumpet player who played the Last Post. Others were able to follow the ceremony digitally.

Prime Minister Rutte addressed the surviving relatives in a video message. He spoke of a disaster that feels like yesterday and pointed out the importance of commemoration. Unfortunately, implementation this year is different because of the coronavirus, he said.

"But I am convinced: that does not lessen the connection. And it makes the one minute of silence even more powerful," said Rutte. "For it is precisely in the austerity of this ceremony that we get to the core. And the names of your lost loved ones sound louder than ever."

During the ceremony, the names of all victims were mentioned (RED see te videoclip in the linked article)


Chairman Piet Ploeg of the Stichting Vliegramp MH17 agreed with this. "Although we can't touch each other, we're still together," he said in a speech.

Ploeg looked back at the beginning of the lawsuit against the MH17 suspects and spoke of a special and important year. He appreciated the work of the international research team, but also called it difficult for survivors to be constantly confronted with painful information.

Three other board members of the foundation then read the names of the victims of the disaster. The Last Post and a minute of silence followed.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2020, 07:33:15 PM »

I cannot believe that’s been 6 years wow!
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2020, 09:53:40 AM »

https://nos.nl/artikel/23...n-tijdens-het-proces.html

MH17: at least 76 next of kin want to speak during the trial

76 relatives of victims of disaster flight MH17 want to use their right to speak during the trial. This became clear today during a preparatory hearing for the trial of the four suspects of the downing of the scheduled flight in 2014.

Most want to actually do that in court, some would like to speak via a video connection or would like to pre-record a video message that should be shown during the trial. More than a hundred people have also said they want to submit a written statement, said lawyer Peter Langstraat on behalf of the team of lawyers, which assists a total of about 450 next of kin.

"More than 300 relatives also want to submit compensation to the perpetrators if they are convicted," said reporter Mattijs van de Wiel, who was at the hearing today.

Restoration of Justice
"Compensation is not in itself the goal of the next of kin," said lawyer Arlette Schijns. "They are primarily concerned with some form of restoration of justice. Redress, as far as possible, from the injustice that took place on July 17, 2014. And the payment of damages is the only way that restoration can take place. "

The four suspects are not at trial. One of them has appointed Dutch lawyers for his defense. They want to meet him before the trial starts, but they think it is difficult to fly to Russia due to the corona crisis.

'Villainous remark'
According to the OM, there are several flights per week to Russia and the OM would like to help with booking a flight. "A bit of a villainous comment," said reporter Van de Wiel.

The MH17 trial continues September 28.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2020, 12:14:57 PM »

https://nos.nl/artikel/23...-nederland-over-mh17.html

Russia does not want to talk further with the Netherlands about MH17

Russia does not want to talk further with Australia and the Netherlands about the downing of flight MH17. This is reported by the Russian news agency RIA based on the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Moscow is withdrawing, according to the ministry, because the Netherlands has taken Russia to the European Court of Human Rights. "Those kinds of actions by the Netherlands make it pointless to continue talking", the statement said.

According to the RIA news agency, Russia is willing to cooperate in an investigation into the non-closing of the airspace for civil aircraft over eastern Ukraine, the region where flight MH17 was downed in July 2014. All 298 occupants were killed.

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In the years following the disaster, the Joint Investigation Team regularly issued evidence that Russian and Russian-affiliated soldiers were involved in the disaster. Last year, four men were identified as suspects, three Russians and one Ukrainian.

Russia does not recognize the lawsuit and consistently rejects the JIT's conclusions and evidence. In recent years, Moscow has come up with alternative theories, according to the JIT mainly intended to sow confusion. The Russian secret service has also tried several times to influence the investigation.
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