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« on: January 19, 2019, 08:20:25 AM »

Prince Gustav turned 50 on January 12 this year. Thus, billed bladet published a feature about him, his relationship to his father and his love Carina:
https://www.billedbladet....carina-og-jeg-et-godt-par
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2019, 06:53:20 PM »

What happens to the family estate if he has no offspring?
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2019, 07:00:16 PM »

What happens to the family estate if he has no offspring?

It passes on to a cousin.  I think Prince Robin? 
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2019, 07:13:18 PM »

I have read that some of them , Robin included, cannot inherit because their wives were / are not noble ...or Aryan  Shocked  Infamous will this one.
There seem to be some family disputes. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2019, 11:07:18 PM »

So, will it all be auctioned? 

Wouldn’t it be funny if someone truly unsuitable bought it after all that? And by unsuitable, I mean non-noble, non-aryan and maybe only 3 limbs. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2019, 11:09:57 PM »

I wonder if Gustav, now that he's the head of the family, can change the laws?
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2019, 11:12:30 PM »

Wikipedia seems to think that Robin will inherit the lot... 
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2019, 03:20:07 AM »

This topic's authority is Curtains.

Seek out all her posts.

She has written extensively on this topic.

So informative.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2019, 03:42:06 AM »

I wonder if Gustav, now that he's the head of the family, can change the laws?

Apparently not - AFAIK the family took the matter to court to over rule the will, but no dice . . .
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2019, 05:40:44 AM »

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1.  Nope, not Robin.  Whoever keeps correcting that on Wikipedia (Robin) is incorrect.  The heir is Bernhard (Bernhardt) of the junior branch of S-W-B, aka S-W-H :  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhart,_Prince_of_Sayn-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein

To verify, look no further than the order of service for the funeral of Gustav's father, Prince Richard.  Gustav correctly supported and escorted his mother, the Prince's widow, whilst Carina, Gustav's consort, was escorted by and attended to Bernhard(t); this signifies B's position as heir to G, and is directly in keeping with precedence of attendees.  

Bernhard, who married in accordance with House Laws, has a son who, once both Bernhardt and Gustav are gone, will in essence re-unite the estates and titles which were split in the early part of the last century.  He is being raised by a strong intelligent mom and a dad who is active in his church and is as involved in his estates husbandry as is Gustav.  Overall, it will be an excellent outcome when Wenzel steps into the role of Prince of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleberg, however sad it will be due to the deaths of his father Bernhardt and cousin Gustav.

2.  Nope, Gustav can't change the laws of inheritance or his grandfather's will, nor the House Laws which far pre-date his grandfather.  The specific laws binding the inheritance end with Gustav, but the House Laws govern into perpetuity.  So, while another House in a similar situation attempted to overturn the inheritance laws in current times, they were not successful.  The S-W-B did not pursue legal action because they had no basis to do so and case law currently underway when Carina came on the scene (and subsequently adjudicated) pointed to the slim-to-none-chances.

Gustav and Carina seem to have made their peace with the situation and with each other's individual growth.  When she first burst onto the scene, there was a lot of ridiculousness that was fueled by her inability to leave American norms of seeking out press coverage and fandom behind her.  As time has moved on and she has found a niche as an author while Gustav moved further into his role as Prince with his father's guidance, a balance was found.  

Although I find the whole situation ridiculous, I do find it fascinating from a legal/financial/wealth preservation/estate management perspective.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2019, 06:12:41 AM »

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1.  Nope, not Robin.  Whoever keeps correcting that on Wikipedia (Robin) is incorrect.  The heir is Bernhard (Bernhardt) of the junior branch of S-W-B, aka S-W-H :  https://en.wikipedia.org/...n-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein

To verify, look no further than the order of service for the funeral of Gustav's father, Prince Richard.  Gustav correctly supported and escorted his mother, the Prince's widow, whilst Carina, Gustav's consort, was escorted by and attended to Bernhard(t); this signifies B's position as heir to G, and is directly in keeping with precedence of attendees. 

Bernhard, who married in accordance with House Laws, has a son who, once both Bernhardt and Gustav are gone, will in essence re-unite the estates and titles which were split in the early part of the last century.  He is being raised by a strong intelligent mom and a dad who is active in his church and is as involved in his estates husbandry as is Gustav.  Overall, it will be an excellent outcome when Wenzel steps into the role of Prince of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleberg, however sad it will be due to the deaths of his father Bernhardt and cousin Gustav.

2.  Nope, Gustav can't change the laws of inheritance or his grandfather's will, nor the House Laws which far pre-date his grandfather.  The specific laws binding the inheritance end with Gustav, but the House Laws govern into perpetuity.  So, while another House in a similar situation attempted to overturn the inheritance laws in current times, they were not successful.  The S-W-B did not pursue legal action because they had no basis to do so and case law currently underway when Carina came on the scene (and subsequently adjudicated) pointed to the slim-to-none-chances.

Gustav and Carina seem to have made their peace with the situation and with each other's individual growth.  When she first burst onto the scene, there was a lot of ridiculousness that was fueled by her inability to leave American norms of seeking out press coverage and fandom behind her.  As time has moved on and she has found a niche as an author while Gustav moved further into his role as Prince with his father's guidance, a balance was found. 

Although I find the whole situation ridiculous, I do find it fascinating from a legal/financial/wealth preservation/estate management perspective.

Thanks Curtains - is there a difference between the Title and the Estates ? If Gustav married someone "unequal" what would be "lost" Huh? I am aware of titled men who can't pass that title onto their daughters (and have no sons) but can pass on the homes, money etc to whom they choose . .
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2019, 03:54:54 PM »

Did someone summon me?

1.  Nope, not Robin.  Whoever keeps correcting that on Wikipedia (Robin) is incorrect.  The heir is Bernhard (Bernhardt) of the junior branch of S-W-B, aka S-W-H :  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhart,_Prince_of_Sayn-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein

To verify, look no further than the order of service for the funeral of Gustav's father, Prince Richard.  Gustav correctly supported and escorted his mother, the Prince's widow, whilst Carina, Gustav's consort, was escorted by and attended to Bernhard(t); this signifies B's position as heir to G, and is directly in keeping with precedence of attendees.  

Bernhard, who married in accordance with House Laws, has a son who, once both Bernhardt and Gustav are gone, will in essence re-unite the estates and titles which were split in the early part of the last century.  He is being raised by a strong intelligent mom and a dad who is active in his church and is as involved in his estates husbandry as is Gustav.  Overall, it will be an excellent outcome when Wenzel steps into the role of Prince of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleberg, however sad it will be due to the deaths of his father Bernhardt and cousin Gustav.

2.  Nope, Gustav can't change the laws of inheritance or his grandfather's will, nor the House Laws which far pre-date his grandfather.  The specific laws binding the inheritance end with Gustav, but the House Laws govern into perpetuity.  So, while another House in a similar situation attempted to overturn the inheritance laws in current times, they were not successful.  The S-W-B did not pursue legal action because they had no basis to do so and case law currently underway when Carina came on the scene (and subsequently adjudicated) pointed to the slim-to-none-chances.

Gustav and Carina seem to have made their peace with the situation and with each other's individual growth.  When she first burst onto the scene, there was a lot of ridiculousness that was fueled by her inability to leave American norms of seeking out press coverage and fandom behind her.  As time has moved on and she has found a niche as an author while Gustav moved further into his role as Prince with his father's guidance, a balance was found.  

Although I find the whole situation ridiculous, I do find it fascinating from a legal/financial/wealth preservation/estate management perspective.

Thank you Curtains!  Star

I agree that this is interesting from an intellectual perspective, and horrifying from an emotional and sense of fairness one.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2019, 04:52:07 PM »

I totally love this. The aristos truly believed (and most still do) that they are a breed apart from the great unwashed. Well in same instances this believe comes back and bites you in the royal backchamber..
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2019, 10:52:34 PM »

Did someone summon me?

1.  Nope, not Robin.  Whoever keeps correcting that on Wikipedia (Robin) is incorrect.  The heir is Bernhard (Bernhardt) of the junior branch of S-W-B, aka S-W-H :  https://en.wikipedia.org/...n-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein

To verify, look no further than the order of service for the funeral of Gustav's father, Prince Richard.  Gustav correctly supported and escorted his mother, the Prince's widow, whilst Carina, Gustav's consort, was escorted by and attended to Bernhard(t); this signifies B's position as heir to G, and is directly in keeping with precedence of attendees. 

Bernhard, who married in accordance with House Laws, has a son who, once both Bernhardt and Gustav are gone, will in essence re-unite the estates and titles which were split in the early part of the last century.  He is being raised by a strong intelligent mom and a dad who is active in his church and is as involved in his estates husbandry as is Gustav.  Overall, it will be an excellent outcome when Wenzel steps into the role of Prince of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleberg, however sad it will be due to the deaths of his father Bernhardt and cousin Gustav.

2.  Nope, Gustav can't change the laws of inheritance or his grandfather's will, nor the House Laws which far pre-date his grandfather.  The specific laws binding the inheritance end with Gustav, but the House Laws govern into perpetuity.  So, while another House in a similar situation attempted to overturn the inheritance laws in current times, they were not successful.  The S-W-B did not pursue legal action because they had no basis to do so and case law currently underway when Carina came on the scene (and subsequently adjudicated) pointed to the slim-to-none-chances.

Gustav and Carina seem to have made their peace with the situation and with each other's individual growth.  When she first burst onto the scene, there was a lot of ridiculousness that was fueled by her inability to leave American norms of seeking out press coverage and fandom behind her.  As time has moved on and she has found a niche as an author while Gustav moved further into his role as Prince with his father's guidance, a balance was found. 

Although I find the whole situation ridiculous, I do find it fascinating from a legal/financial/wealth preservation/estate management perspective.

Thanks Curtains - is there a difference between the Title and the Estates ? If Gustav married someone "unequal" what would be "lost" Huh? I am aware of titled men who can't pass that title onto their daughters (and have no sons) but can pass on the homes, money etc to whom they choose . .

Title can stay with Gustav if he married unequally, but not the “stuff”.  That would all go to the next heir. 

Anyone bound by House laws can marry anyone they want, they just can’t keep the stuff if they marry in contravention of House laws.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2019, 04:18:31 PM »

Does Gustav's sister( that breeds horse) her husband and two children also live in the Castle?   What about the other sister that is divorced from Count Jefferson (by the way--what his he now doing and where) with 3 kids I think...live in the Palace or in Denmark??
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