The Tale of Jokke, Schackenborg and the Exile1661
In 1661, General Hans Schack was granted the castle owing to his "allegiance and willing duty" to the king during the war against Sweden. He named it "Schackenborg" and for 11 generations the castle was in the ownership of the Schack Family.
The Schackenborg Estate: Schackenborg Castle, the Inn, over 600 hectares of land,
In 1978, Schackenborg Castle, its farms and lands was returned to the Crown, and in 1993 it went into possession of Prince Joachim, the younger son of Her Majesty Queen Margrethe II of Denmark.
I don't think the purchase sum and the conditions for the purchase were every published but after some years there were apparently disagreements as to the terms and the regent couple and the Schacks had a falling out. The Schacks weren't at J&A's wedding either.
We don't know the terms and agreement of the take-over, but it is rather obvious that one of the parties didn't do their home work! It turned out that Schackenborg was partly is disrepair, most of the inventory had been removed and there were problems with the mortgages as well.
The solution came in 1995, with the impending marriage. Karl Toosbuy, a local tycoon organized a "people's donation" , which eventually amounted to about 14 million Danish Kroner (ca. $ 2.5 million or £ 1.4 million).I no longer remember what was renovated, restored, repaired! The place needed a good going over, and the donation payed for the most urgent renovations. Come to think of it: I remember something about a new roof!
Karl Toosbuy was the owner of ECCO.2005: The Divorce
Joachim buys a House for Alexandra
https://www.theroyalforum...astle-t-nder-19005-4.htmlThe State gives Alexandra an Appanage:
The Inn/hotel used to be part of Schackenborg. But Joachim had to sell it after the divorce, according to writings in the press, to be able to afford to buy Alexandre a new house. The Inn is today owned by Hans Michael Jebsen, a Danish businessman living in Hong Kong, who owns several small hotels in Denmark, including Frederiksminde in Præstø.
I believe, and several politicians has said so openly that Alexandra got her apanage to maintain the living standard befitting of two royal children, who at the time were three and four in line for the throne. - After Frederik and Joachim. There was after all a possibillity that M&F would not have children. Another reason was to avoid a "Diana" at all costs. No bitter ex-wife speaking to the press all the time, so in a sense it was "behave-well-money". But first I believe Alexandra got such a good bargain, because it was novel situation. There hadn't been a divorce in the DRF for some 150 years. And beforehand these sorts of situations were dealt with routinely by allocating the lady in question an estate somewhere in the countryside where she would retire and live discreetly and comfortably from the revenue. (I refer here mainly to women married to the "left hand", i.e. official mistresses). And there were no official papers willing to print anything negative she might have to say back then.
......The DRF learned after all from the affair, in the sense that Mary had to sign a considerable less advantageous prenup. And presumably so have our Marie.
(I can imagine a fuming newlywed Frederik grinding his teeth, but no doubt the prenup was very much "strongly advised" by the government).
Everything considered I believe it's money well spend. For some 25 million DKK, so far, the divorce has been most civillized, with very little bad PR for the DRF and as a consequence Denmark. Joachim had to sell one of his golden eggs, Schackenborg Inn and probably realise some shares and what not in order to give Alexandra a reasonable sum, so the apanage was I imagine an additional incentive for her to accept less of what would otherwise have been 50 % of the estate. Which would probably have meant that Joachim would have been forced to sell Schackenborg back in 2005 with a considerable less surplus if any.
What??? It was ok for Danes to pay-up so Joachim's nest egg would remain largely intact??? June 2012
The illegal Fertilizer Scandal
Over the past month, police in eastern Jutland have broken open two large smuggling rings involving illegal pesticides and fertilisers. Hundreds of Denmark’s farmers, including some of its largest food producers are named on the smugglers’ customer lists. Among those names are high-ranking members of the agriculture and food council Landbrug & Fødevarer, as well as a Danish prince.
I have no idea what the proof is, or if there is any against Jokke; the case has been investigated now, and there will be a case, as far as I understand it. We will never know about Jokke´s involvement, since he is above the law.
What kind of protection? Is he above the law because he is from the DRF or the power behind the Queen protects him (something like JC and Cristina)?
The royal family is above the law. The queen can choose to punish whomever has done something wrong, and that is it!
That is not fair to the other citizens. So...we (Danish citizens first) will not know if he did something illegal or not...Not right.
Thanks for all info.
You are welcome, ssassi! Well, I for one find it very unfair that we will never know! I wonder if Ekstra Bladet and/or Se og Hør will take this up - maybe they can´t because of lack of information. In any case, this is damaging to the DRF as such.
This kind of stuff really pisses me off.
Read'em and weep, Andy! In Denmark, judging from what did not
happen to Jokke, the Queen's children are exempt from prosecution. Fred thought his mother the Queen of England (even though there is no Queen on the English throne). They could have traded places. 2012 - August??
Purchase of Villa on the Cote d'Azur
Joachim & Marie's house at the Cote d'Azur in France - a villa in Montauroux
The villa is just a five minute drive from the hilltop village Montauroux and less than 25 minutes from the Mediterranean. Montauroux is one of five medieval villages in the area, and is located just north of the Esterel National Park. The villa is close driving distance to the four other mountain towns: Fayence, Callian, Seillan and Tourette's. With just a 45 minute drive from Nice airport and 25 minutes from Cannes and St. Tropez, the villa is ideally placed, if you want to explore the culture, the nature and mood of the the Provençe.
On the other side of the valley only 10-15 minutes away is the exclusive Golf Resort - Terre Blence. The 36-hole golf course is a part of Europe Tours 2012, while the spa area on the corresponding Hôtel Four Seasons has been voted the world's best by Condé Nast Traveller. The villa is also in close driving distance to several good restaurants - including two with a Michelin star.
The area is a wonderful combination of beautiful scenery, charming hilltop villages and Southern French sentiment in Nice and Cannes.
I read somewhere that Joachim & Marie purchased a home called Cote d'Azur in Montauroux, France...............can someone tell me something about this home?apartment?villa?estate?
This makes sense do to Chateau de Caix being given to Frederik & Mary ..... From what I understand that was meant as an investment.Do they get rental income from it while vacationing at Caix,,,
Denmark's Prince Joachim is said to be more than Â£4.6 million in debt. The sixth in line to the Danish throne owes huge amounts in loans against his home estate, Schackenborg, in southern Jutland, according to newspaper Ekstra Bladet. Joachim - youngest son of Queen Margrethe - has reportedly taken out five loans against the castle, the latest amounting to the equivalent of Â£2.2 million. The reasons behind the Prince's borrowing were not given. The prince receives a grant of around Â£342,000 a year from the state and currently lives at the castle with his second wife, Princess Marie - whom he married in 2008 - and their two children, Prince Henrik, four, and Princess Athena, 19 months. Joachim also has sons Prince Nikolai, 14, and Prince Felix, 11, from his first marriage to Alexandra Christina, the Countess of Frederiksborg.
Did Jokke finance the purchase of his villa in France by taking loans against the Castle? March 2014Sale of Schackenborg
What the website says:https://www.bmcfond.com/n...-schackenborg-foundation/
Bitten & Mads Clausen's Foundation – together with other investors – was involved in setting up the Schackenborg Foundation, which is a commercial foundation. In addition to Schackenborg Palace and Park, the Schackenborg Foundation owns approx. 300 hectares of farmland belonging to the palace and a Christmas tree business. The land is cultivated in cooperation with HRH Prince Joachim, and part of the crop is sold via the “De 5 gårde” (The Five Farms) cooperative in COOPְ's shops. There are clauses within the documentation for the Schackenborg Foundation that state, among other things, that The Foundation owns and maintains Schackenborg Palace and Park and provides the public with access to these areas. It is also the Foundation’s aim to give HRH Prince Joachim and HRH Princess Marie, as well as other members of the Danish Royal Family, the option of occasionally staying at Schackenborg. Finally, the Schackenborg Foundation provides support to charitable and non-profit causes to the extent that the Board of Directors deem this financially possible.
Does this mean Jokke still has a stake in the commercial venture? Just wow! He gets his debts paid off by buddies, he still maintains a stake in the farming operations (it is not a CHARITABLE foundation but is owned by one.)https://mandysroyalty.com...e-the-move-to-copenhagen/
Incidentally, Karl Toosbuy, who came up with the idea for the public to raise funds to help the millionaire prince to rehabilitate his castle in 1995, owned ECCO Holding which is one of the three entities, along with Bitten and Mads Clausen Foundation and Ole Kirk’s Foundation, which setup the Schackenborg Foundation. Jokke and Maria have been retained a patrons of the Foundation. Does this mean that the appanage pays from them to patronise a commercial venture from which their derive financial benefit?
Joachim donated the amount of money gifted to him and Alex for restoration of the Castle (inflation adjusted?). Joachim and family either own/has full-time use of apartments /section of the castle. Joachim was allegedly paid DKK42 million by the three businessman. Joachim sold another 12 hectares of the attached farmland. He then bought a house in Copenhagen of which Marie is 50% owner and presumably invested the rest. He has received an apanage from the state throughout. The apanage was increased when he married Marie. Apparently (I could not find information to verify this), the Regent and the CP couples finances are scrutinised by Parliament but not the apanage granted to Joachim. There was concern raised that some of the apanage might have found its way back into the farm i.e. a commercial venture over the years.
Sentiments around the time:
An interesting article about the lands around Schackenborg that Joachim still owns: Prins Joachim bliver stenrig: Så mange millioner giver hans geniale plan - Royale | www.bt.dk
He still owns around 600 hectares and two properties.
Joachim has now begun to sell off that land, as indicated by the then Chief of Court, Ove Ullerup.
Joachim has sold 12 hectares out of the 600 for a price of 2.4 million DKK.
BT has estimated the value of his land and properties in today's market at some 97 million DKK.
- Combined with the income after the sale of Schackenborg, the value of his new house and what other investments he may have made, he is in my conservative estimation wealthier that the rest of the DRF combined.
wealthier than all the DRF combined? nice for Joachim and this great deal.
another article on the selling of the lands, I think they interviewed some people that live close by
Prins Joachim geniale plan: Så stenrig kan han blive - Nationalt | www.b.dk
"Andreas Knudsen, Møgeltønder: "It's fine for me that Prince Joachim selling off its land. What does he need the ground to when he lives in Copenhagen? I must admit that I never noticed the prince and his family when they lived in Møgeltønder. They were still not home at the castle so often, so it makes me actually not that big that he sells out of the ground. How I actually believe many others in Møgeltønder have it. It is probably most tourists who think it is a shame that he does not live here anymore."
this just adds more for me, that Joachim should pay Alexandra appendage and for Nikolai and Felix and not the government anymore.
Joachim is a part of a consortium called the Five Farms, which sell and market a number of products though the consortium. Joachim has previously among many other things sold beer and the Schackenborg Snaps (a bitter) through that consortium. Now he has launched two more products. Schackenborg Vodka and Schackenborg Dry Gin, both at 44 %. - In the interest of this forum I will volunteer to sample these products. Someone has to do it, so I'll sacrifice myself for the cause. The consortium is going reasonably well. Last surplus was for 500.000 DKK and the equity is close to Seven million DKK.
Joachim gets an elite posting in France with apanage, no salary
Let’s look at Jokke’s income”
- Rental income from property in France
- Income form the commercial activities of the Schackenborg Foundation
- Apanage from the Danish State
- Passive income from the money he made from the “sale of the Schackenborg Castle”
- Income from documentaries
And a secure job in France.
Frankly this is a racket! Any other 6th in line would be ghoulish green with envy.
Let’s look at Mary who is so Machiavellian she might have brought about the fertilizer investigation by ratting Joachim out to the inspectors over the use of illegal, environmentally polluting fertilizers. Revised pre-nup: no payout, no house of her choice. Little wonder she holds onto Fred with steely talons. Does Mary own half of the Swiss chalet she and Frodo were unmasked for purchasing without receiving consent from the Danish parliament and on which they receive rental income? Illegal chalet, Turkey baster, Black Amex, Haberdashery, driving the competition out of town: Mary Machiavelli, you wear your moniker well. Even Joachim the Racketeer with his business tycoon bail-out buddies and immense wealth could not stop you from running him out of town. But wait: you didn’t actually run him out of the country: it is illegal for the apanage to be taken out of the country unless the recipient's stay elsewhere is of a temporary
nature. So sorry Mary: your victory is but ephemeral.https://www.jellypages.co...you-to-France-h50814.html
Final question: Joachim found it difficult to run a farm and attend to his royal duties, so he gave up the farm. How did he manage to find time for the Documentary on Denmark? Did he make a dime from it while the taxpayer paid for his time?
We wish him a complete recovery and soon: he can revel in the wealth bequeathed to him by Danes with hearts of gold and lighter purses for it. No 6th in line has had it sweeter.
- sister of Camilla Long.