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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2019, 11:23:36 PM »

And yet another from the turn of the century:

Maria Pavlovna of Russia and Prince Vilhelm of Sweden. Apparently she became so homesick with time and never felt happy in Sweden that her own family filed for a divorce and took her back.
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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2019, 12:13:02 AM »

Wasn't there more to that case of Maria and Vilhelm?

https://en.m.wikipedia.or...ussia_(1890%E2%80%931958)
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2019, 09:35:01 AM »

Wasn't there more to that case of Maria and Vilhelm?

https://en.m.wikipedia.or...ussia_(1890%E2%80%931958)

I'm sure there was. I've never heard of the Axel Munthe thing before, but certainly that Maria rushed head over heels in the marriage and later told everyone she was pressured. I think both was true.
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2019, 12:52:49 PM »

In her autobiography, Marie said that she met Wilhelm only a couple of times and that the whole thing had been arranged by her aunt and his mother, who were good friends from their teen years.  She felt that her aunt wanted her out of the house and gave no thought for her feelings or wishes. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2019, 01:13:35 PM »

In her autobiography, Marie said that she met Wilhelm only a couple of times and that the whole thing had been arranged by her aunt and his mother, who were good friends from their teen years.  She felt that her aunt wanted her out of the house and gave no thought for her feelings or wishes. 

Her aunt Elisabeth never really warmed to her or to  her brother Dmitri when they were placed in the custody of her husband Grand Duke Sergei. TBH Maria and Dmitri also missed their banished father.
But yes Maria was engaged to Wilhelm a mere few days after their first meeting, and litterally pressured to do so by her aunt.  Elisabeth clearly wanted her out.
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2019, 05:36:08 PM »

Not sure, if this counts as divorce as one party never agreed to the separation, but still one of most famous ones ever:

Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon

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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2019, 07:01:15 PM »

Another interesting one:  Juliane of Saxe Coburg divorced her Romanov husband.  She was Leopold's sister, Victoria's aunt.  Because of the shabby treatment her aunt received from the ex, Victoria was mostly prejudiced against her relatives marrying into that family again.
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2019, 07:16:15 PM »

Another interesting one:  Juliane of Saxe Coburg divorced her Romanov husband.  She was Leopold's sister, Victoria's aunt.  Because of the shabby treatment her aunt received from the ex, Victoria was mostly prejudiced against her relatives marrying into that family again.

Indeed. Curiously Konstantin's marriage life caused less controversy in history even though he was morgantically married to a Polish countess as second wife than his political decisions did.

Other Romanov divorces:

Duke George Maksimilianovich of Leuchtenberg and Princess Anastasia of Montenegro. She later on married GD Nikolai Nikolaevich the younger.

Prince Peter of Oldenburg and GD Olga Aleksandrovna of Russia. Peter was most likely homosexual. Olga later married Nikolai Kulikovsky.
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2019, 07:34:22 PM »

Another interesting one:  Juliane of Saxe Coburg divorced her Romanov husband.  She was Leopold's sister, Victoria's aunt.  Because of the shabby treatment her aunt received from the ex, Victoria was mostly prejudiced against her relatives marrying into that family again.
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2019, 07:54:06 PM »

Minor digression:  John Van der Kiste wrote a book on Queen Victoria's Cousins.  She had more than just the Saxe-Coburg ones --Kohary, Wurtemburg, illegitimate, Belgian.  There's really not a whole of material available on some of them, so the text is a bit thin, but there are some cool pictures. 
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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2019, 09:12:47 PM »

Kristallinchen post on the Scandalous Royals thread makes me remember about Princesse Louise of Belgium and Prince Philipp of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.

They were married on 1875 when Louise was seventeen and Philipp thirty-one.

Louise ran away from their bedroom on her wedding night and went crying to her mother about the "awful things" her husband had just done to her. A very bad start for a marriage  Sad

The couple managed to have two children and after twenty years Louise fell in love with Count Geza Mattachich. She left Vienna in 1897 to follow him, taking her daughter Dorothea with her. Enormous scandal ensued. Philipp and Geza even fought a duel in 1898.
Geza was later imprisoned for four years.

Louise began divorce procedings but there were not finalized until 1906. She and Geza then went to live together in Paris until their respective deaths in 1924 and 1923.
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2019, 09:21:44 PM »

Kristallinchen post on the Scandalous Royals thread makes me remember about Princesse Louise of Belgium and Prince Philipp of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.

They were married on 1875 when Louise was seventeen and Philipp thirty-one.

Louise ran away from their bedroom on her wedding night and went crying to her mother about the "awful things" her husband had just done to her. A very bad start for a marriage  Sad

The couple managed to have two children and after twenty years Louise fell in love with Count Geza Mattachich. She left Vienna in 1897 to follow him, taking her daughter Dorothea with her. Enormous scandal ensued. Philipp and Geza even fought a duel in 1898.
Geza was later imprisoned for four years.

Louise began divorce procedings but there were not finalized until 1906. She and Geza then went to live together in Paris until their respective deaths in 1924 and 1923.

Louise had such an unfortunate life. One can really only pity her. Unlike her two sisters she never found happiness in a solid marriage.

It's also a scandal what happened to women taking lovers at this time (while men were free to do what they wanted). Louise was put in a mental asylum for it. Something also happening to Duchess Sophie of Alencon, youngest sister of Empress Elisabeth, although she was later released as being healed.
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2019, 09:29:06 PM »



Louise had such an unfortunate life. One can really only pity her. Unlike her two sisters she never found happiness in a solid marriage.

Poor her. Her father Leopold wasn't exactly father of the Year either
And her mother was more concerned about finding her daughters prestigious husbands than their well-being.
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2019, 09:37:47 PM »



Louise had such an unfortunate life. One can really only pity her. Unlike her two sisters she never found happiness in a solid marriage.

Poor her. Her father Leopold wasn't exactly father of the Year either
And her mother was more concerned about finding her daughters prestigious husbands than their well-being.


Well initially Louise and later on Stephanie were actually looking forward to marriage. They wanted to escape their horrible childhood home. Of course they couldn't know what was awaiting them.

I don't know, if MH was the driving point on the marriages. I think both parents were. Stephanie writes in her memories that her mother was strict, but sometimes showed signs of pity and even motherly affection. In fact she was just as much of a victim of her husband as her daughters were. When growing up an AD in Hungary she was carefree and such. Nothing of this remained.

Prince Philipp was a close friend of Crownprince Rudolf and one of the people discovering him and Mary Vetsera in Mayerling after the fatal murder/suicide. Rudolf was very fond of Louise, possible also having an affair with her. It's been said that his liking of Louise was one of the main reasons for choosing Stephanie as bride.
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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2019, 02:14:52 PM »

King Carol II of Romania and his royal wife Princess Helen of Greece and Denmark.
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