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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2020, 01:58:17 AM »

King Leopold II at Cyclists Meeting   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAW-Usl40wQ
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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2020, 07:09:38 PM »

King Leopold II at Cyclists Meeting   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAW-Usl40wQ

Cyril, I love the stuff you find!  Thank you for always making this board a pleasure to read.

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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2020, 01:01:13 AM »

King Leopold II at Cyclists Meeting   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAW-Usl40wQ

Cyril, I love the stuff you find!  Thank you for always making this board a pleasure to read.

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« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2020, 11:30:13 PM »

When Marie Henriette and Leopold were traveling in Egypt, Leopold withheld a letter from her which informed her of the demise of her mother. He did not wish to cut the trip short.
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« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2020, 01:10:33 AM »

When Marie Henriette and Leopold were traveling in Egypt, Leopold withheld a letter from her which informed her of the demise of her mother. He did not wish to cut the trip short.

Wow. How insensitive.
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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2020, 09:55:07 PM »

When Marie Henriette and Leopold were traveling in Egypt, Leopold withheld a letter from her which informed her of the demise of her mother. He did not wish to cut the trip short.

Wow. How insensitive.

If there was ever a match made in hell it was those two. They were completely incompatible.

Apparantly upon the marriage was announced one of MH-s ladies in waiting commented: Here a stable boy is marrying a nun. And by nun I mean the Duke of Brabant.
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« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2020, 11:22:39 PM »

When Marie Henriette and Leopold were traveling in Egypt, Leopold withheld a letter from her which informed her of the demise of her mother. He did not wish to cut the trip short.

Wow. How insensitive.

If there was ever a match made in hell it was those two. They were completely incompatible.

Apparantly upon the marriage was announced one of MH-s ladies in waiting commented: Here a stable boy is marrying a nun. And by nun I mean the Duke of Brabant.

That’s funny!  Thanks Kristallinchen!  Star

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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2021, 02:08:40 AM »

King Leopold disliked the marriage of his daughter Princess Louise to Prince Philip of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha-Kohary because he was growing distrustful of the Prussians/Germans.
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« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2021, 11:42:06 AM »

King Leopold disliked the marriage of his daughter Princess Louise to Prince Philip of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha-Kohary because he was growing distrustful of the Prussians/Germans.

That's interesting. I always read that he was the one arranging it, but of course he might've very well changed his mind about Philipp.
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« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2021, 12:35:10 PM »

King Leopold disliked the marriage of his daughter Princess Louise to Prince Philip of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha-Kohary because he was growing distrustful of the Prussians/Germans.

That's interesting. I always read that he was the one arranging it, but of course he might've very well changed his mind about Philipp.

The same over here, as far as I heard about it, Leopold arranged/forced the marriage.  But there are offcourse 2 sides to a story.
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« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2021, 12:46:31 PM »

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws...chijnlijke-verhaal-van-e/


"...Louise Marie Amélie was born on February 18, 1858 in Laken. Her parents are disappointed: she is a girl and therefore not heir to the throne. The tone was immediately set for an education without love or affection. The sources must show that Louise has a spartan childhood, including corporal punishment....  Her father in particular does not care about her, certainly not after the birth of his second child, Prince Leopold, in 1859. He is indeed a boy and he will receive all the attention as a future heir to the throne. In 1864, another daughter, Princess Stefanie, follows. Great is the drama in 1869 when Prince Leopold suddenly dies. The king has lost his only son. The birth of another daughter, Princess Clementine, in 1872 does not bring any solace...."

"...Leopold II is increasingly turning away from his family. He sees his daughters merely as useful pawns in the game of international marriage policy. He uses Louise first. On February 4, 1875, she married Prince Philip of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in Brussels. She is just under 17, he almost 31. The two are closely related: his mother Clémentine and her grandmother Queen Louise-Marie were sisters. Moreover, both of their paternal grandfathers were brothers. But the groom is rich and that makes up for a lot......"

...Louise and Philip's marriage is not a high flyer. Things already go wrong during the first wedding night. The inexperienced princess is horrified by the sexual wishes of her new husband and flees to the greenhouses of Laken. She soon learns that Philip likes pornographic literature and images, a preference he likes to share with her. Not much later, Louise and Philip move to the imperial court in Vienna, the place where Queen Maria Hendrika grew up. Although she has told her daughter extensively about Habsburg life, the princess has to get used to her surroundings. Thanks to her origins and her marriage, Louise and her husband gain access to the dense circles around Emperor Francis Joseph. Louise soon gets a taste of cosmopolitan life in the capital and undergoes a metamorphosis into a glamorous princess...."

..."Although Louise and Philip have two children, they soon go their own way. They both lead a debauched life in which they are not very concerned about marital loyalty. Louise becomes the talk of the town and reports about her extravagant behavior also reach Brussels. Queen Maria Hendrika repeatedly advises her to lead a more sober life, but she ignores that advice. Her reputation goes from bad to worse, much to the dismay of Emperor Francis Joseph. Nevertheless, in 1880 she managed to convince him to let his son and Crown Prince Rudolf marry her younger sister Princess Stefanie. ..."


....Shortly before the turn of the century, Louise meets the Croatian count Géza Mattacic. The two fall madly in love and start a stormy affair with all of Vienna looking over their shoulders. The consequences are not delayed: Louise falls out of favor with Emperor Francis Joseph and her husband turns off the money supply. In no time the princess gets drowned in debt and has to sell all her possessions, including her underwear. To avoid the shame, Philip buys up almost everything. Still, creditors continue to chase her. She begins forging her sister Stefanie's signature in order to get money. She cannot count on support from Brussels. Leopold II refuses to pay her debts and does not agree to a divorce from Philip. As far as he is concerned, Louise is dead. Her children also turn away from her, partly for fear that their mother's reputation will damage their own chances in life. Only her sister Stefanie remains loyal to her.

Psychiatry
The scandal is gradually getting too big for Emperor Francis Joseph. He has Mattacic arrested on charges of fraud and offers Louise the choice: either return to her husband or be admitted to a psychiatric institution. She chooses the latter. Both she and her lover will end up under lock and key. After a few years Mattacic is released and he immediately starts looking for Louise. He helps her escape from the institution and they flee together. In the years that follow, they are constantly on the run. For example, they live in Berlin, Paris and Budapest...


..Royal Endowment
In 1907, a judge in Gotha finally answered Louise's request for divorce from Philip. For Leopold II, this is the perfect excuse to remove her from his will, a fate that also befalls Stefanie. When he dies in 1909, the princesses discover that he has left all his money to his mistress the Baroness de Vaughan and to the Royal Donation.The sisters start a lawsuit against the Belgian state. The outcome is especially important for Louise because she is completely on the ground. Unfortunately for her, she loses the legal battle. Nevertheless, the Belgian state awards her a nice sum of money, which she will receive many years later due to the outbreak of WWI ...



..Wiesbaden
After the war, Louise and Mattacic return to Paris. There she writes her memoirs "Autour des trônes que j’ai vu tomber" ("Around the thrones I saw fall"). In it she deals with various people in her life, including Leopold II. Still, she dedicates the work to him.

In the course of 1923 Mattacic's health deteriorated. He dies in the fall. After his death, Louise moves one last time to Wiesbaden in Germany. There she died on March 1, 1924, lonely, alone and poor. The story goes that she presses a photo of Mattacic to her chest as she takes her last breath. In any case, the contrast between her end of life and the grandeur of the avenue in Brussels that bears her name could not be greater...


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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2021, 06:26:48 PM »

I enjoyed reading that Principessa.   I had read somewhere that Prince Philipp of Saxe-Coburg was a skank with a large collection of pornography.   Didn't he run with Count Eulenburg and some of the louche crew surrounding the Kaiser?         
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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2021, 07:01:05 PM »

I enjoyed reading that Principessa.   I had read somewhere that Prince Philipp of Saxe-Coburg was a skank with a large collection of pornography.   Didn't he run with Count Eulenburg and some of the louche crew surrounding the Kaiser?         

I do not know for sure, I would have to look it up.

The daughters of Leopold II and his wife Henrietta weren't lucky with those two as their parents.....
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« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2021, 11:16:27 PM »

Did King Leopold II's daughters go to Austria to visit their maternal relatives, Queen Marie Henriette's relatives?
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« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2021, 12:52:12 AM »

Queen Marie Henriette and her maid of honour playing with four little dogs circa 1895     
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