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« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2020, 06:49:24 PM »

The succession of Edward IV made his brother Richard (Richard III) a royal prince. It was probably late in 1468, when he was 16 years old, that Richard was declared of age,, took position of estates conferred by his brother King Edward IV, and commenced public life, attending court and judicial commissions.
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« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2020, 10:38:53 PM »

When Archbishop Theobald died in 1161, King Henry II pressed for Thomas Becket to succeed him. Becket was not even an ordained priest. The necessary ceremony was hastily conducted the day before Thomas was consecrated as Archbishop of Canterbury.
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« Reply #77 on: April 24, 2020, 03:03:05 AM »

A woman accused of venality by her disappointed lover is judged by Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine   
http://www.alamy.com/stoc...s-judged-by-78832913.html
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« Reply #78 on: April 28, 2020, 02:45:59 AM »

In charters given from Fontevrault in the years after the demise of King Richard I, his mother refers to her daughter-in-law as "Queen Berengaria" without adding the affectionate dilectissima or carissima appended to the names of her daughters.
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« Reply #79 on: May 04, 2020, 04:03:43 PM »

Isabella of Angouleme was the wife of King John. On August 23, 1200 Isabella was informed that she was to marry John the next day.
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« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2020, 07:41:34 AM »

When King Henry III of England was obliged to return to Gascony to quell a rebellion in the province, Eleanor of Provence was appointed regent. She was regent between May and August. Eleanor sat in two Parliaments and met foreign embassies.
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« Reply #81 on: May 21, 2020, 08:05:13 AM »

If King Edward V had been on the throne instead of Uncle Richard III, how would he have continued his education?
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« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2020, 10:19:44 AM »

Philippa of Clarence (1355-1382) was the only child of Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence, and Elizabeth de Burgh, 4th Countess of Ulster. She married Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March.
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« Reply #83 on: June 13, 2020, 04:17:34 AM »

If King Edward V had been on the throne instead of Uncle Richard III, how would he have continued his education?

His tutors would have followed him to London. Edward V would have had a council which included his paternal Uncle Richard the Duke of Gloucester to help guide him.
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« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2020, 08:57:00 AM »

If King Edward V had been on the throne instead of Uncle Richard III, how would he have continued his education?

His tutors would have followed him to London. Edward V would have had a council which included his paternal Uncle Richard the Duke of Gloucester to help guide him.

Makes total sense now that you say it, much like a young Elizabeth I. Star
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« Reply #85 on: June 13, 2020, 02:51:19 PM »

Thank you karma chamelion.

So I found some information about the then Prince of Wales' education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_V_of_England

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Prince Edward was placed under the supervision of the queen's brother Anthony, Earl Rivers, a noted scholar, and in a letter to Rivers, Edward IV set down precise conditions for the upbringing of his son and the management of his household.[4] The prince was to "arise every morning at a convenient hour, according to his age". His day would begin with matins and then Mass, which he was to receive uninterrupted. After breakfast, the business of educating the prince began with "virtuous learning". Dinner was served from ten in the morning, and then the prince was to be read "noble stories ... of virtue, honour, cunning, wisdom, and of deeds of worship" but "of nothing that should move or stir him to vice". Perhaps aware of his own vices, the king was keen to safeguard his son's morals, and instructed Rivers to ensure that no one in the prince's household was a habitual "swearer, brawler, backbiter, common hazarder, adulterer, [or user of] words of ribaldry". After further study, in the afternoon the prince was to engage in sporting activities suitable for his class, before evensong. Supper was served from four, and curtains were to be drawn at eight. Following this, the prince's attendants were to "enforce themselves to make him merry and joyous towards his bed". They would then watch over him as he slept.

King Edward's diligence appeared to bear fruit, as Dominic Mancini reported of the young Edward V:

    In word and deed he gave so many proofs of his liberal education, of polite nay rather scholarly, attainments far beyond his age; ... his special knowledge of literature ... enabled him to discourse elegantly, to understand fully, and to declaim most excellently from any work whether in verse or prose that came into his hands, unless it were from the more abstruse authors. He had such dignity in his whole person, and in his face such charm, that however much they might gaze, he never wearied the eyes of beholders.[5]

In addition to this I believe that the young Prince of Wales would have also been learning the necessary skills for battle, equestrian arts, and becoming a future King of England. Had there not been the animosity between the Plantagenets (Richard III etc..) and the Rivers/Woodville families then I do believe that Anthony would have still acted as Edward and Richard's tutor and counselor.
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« Reply #86 on: June 13, 2020, 03:05:14 PM »

Thank you karma chamelion.

So I found some information about the then Prince of Wales' education.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_V_of_England

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Prince Edward was placed under the supervision of the queen's brother Anthony, Earl Rivers, a noted scholar, and in a letter to Rivers, Edward IV set down precise conditions for the upbringing of his son and the management of his household.[4] The prince was to "arise every morning at a convenient hour, according to his age". His day would begin with matins and then Mass, which he was to receive uninterrupted. After breakfast, the business of educating the prince began with "virtuous learning". Dinner was served from ten in the morning, and then the prince was to be read "noble stories ... of virtue, honour, cunning, wisdom, and of deeds of worship" but "of nothing that should move or stir him to vice". Perhaps aware of his own vices, the king was keen to safeguard his son's morals, and instructed Rivers to ensure that no one in the prince's household was a habitual "swearer, brawler, backbiter, common hazarder, adulterer, [or user of] words of ribaldry". After further study, in the afternoon the prince was to engage in sporting activities suitable for his class, before evensong. Supper was served from four, and curtains were to be drawn at eight. Following this, the prince's attendants were to "enforce themselves to make him merry and joyous towards his bed". They would then watch over him as he slept.

King Edward's diligence appeared to bear fruit, as Dominic Mancini reported of the young Edward V:

    In word and deed he gave so many proofs of his liberal education, of polite nay rather scholarly, attainments far beyond his age; ... his special knowledge of literature ... enabled him to discourse elegantly, to understand fully, and to declaim most excellently from any work whether in verse or prose that came into his hands, unless it were from the more abstruse authors. He had such dignity in his whole person, and in his face such charm, that however much they might gaze, he never wearied the eyes of beholders.[5]

In addition to this I believe that the young Prince of Wales would have also been learning the necessary skills for battle, equestrian arts, and becoming a future King of England. Had there not been the animosity between the Plantagenets (Richard III etc..) and the Rivers/Woodville families then I do believe that Anthony would have still acted as Edward and Richard's tutor and counselor.

Thank you, TLLK.  Star

Id forgotten about The Earl Rivers, but very informative post all around!
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« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2020, 03:01:46 AM »

Geoffrey Plantagenet (1158-1186) was the fourth son of King Henry II. While Geoffrey was still an infant, Henry II arranged his marriage to Constance of Brittany, the daughter of Conan IV, Duke of Brittany. Geoffrey, at the age of twenty two, was invested with the duchy. His marriage to Constance was celebrated in July 1181.
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« Reply #88 on: July 10, 2020, 02:51:40 AM »

On June 28, 1462, on behalf of King Henry VI, Queen Margaret signed a treaty of peace with France, providing for a hundred year truce and barring all Englishmen from entering France unless they were certified true subjects of King Henry.
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« Reply #89 on: July 10, 2020, 03:16:52 AM »

watching this atm:

https://www.amazon.com/Pl...ens-England/dp/0143124927

gosh the  Plantagenet   were a blood-thirsty lot  Blink

love the  yellow blooms of Plantagenet tree or known as spanish broom and a pest over here.

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