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« Reply #90 on: July 12, 2020, 04:54:16 PM »

watching this atm:

https://www.amazon.com/Pl...ens-England/dp/0143124927

gosh the  Plantagenet   were a blood-thirsty lot  Blink

love the  yellow blooms of Plantagenet tree or known as spanish broom and a pest over here.

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Thanks Geta!  This is going into my queue.
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« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2020, 02:22:10 AM »

King John at one time was engaged in negotiations for marriage to a princess of Portugal. Such an alliance would have protected the southern borders of the Angevin territories. Instead he married Isabella, the only daughter and heir of the Count of Angouleme.
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« Reply #92 on: July 30, 2020, 02:05:23 AM »

King Richard III and Queen Anne (Neville) funded Cambridge University King's College and Queen's College.
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« Reply #93 on: August 25, 2020, 02:10:37 AM »

In 1137 King Edward III decreed that literally no one, including the royal family and men of the church, could wear fur.
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« Reply #94 on: August 25, 2020, 04:01:31 AM »

In 1137 King Edward III decreed that literally no one, including the royal family and men of the church, could wear fur.
Why not? Winter was cold then also, and fur was the warmest thing around. Did loads of people freeze to death, or was he just ignored?
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« Reply #95 on: August 25, 2020, 04:34:05 AM »

In 1137 King Edward III decreed that literally no one, including the royal family and men of the church, could wear fur.
Why not? Winter was cold then also, and fur was the warmest thing around. Did loads of people freeze to death, or was he just ignored?

A Kingís decree is not ignored.  The Act was passed to preclude commoners from wearing fur, which was reserved for specific ranks of aristocracy and/or anyone who spent more than £100 per year (on anything).
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« Reply #96 on: August 25, 2020, 05:06:20 AM »

In 1137 King Edward III decreed that literally no one, including the royal family and men of the church, could wear fur.
Why not? Winter was cold then also, and fur was the warmest thing around. Did loads of people freeze to death, or was he just ignored?

A Kingís decree is not ignored.  The Act was passed to preclude commoners from wearing fur, which was reserved for specific ranks of aristocracy and/or anyone who spent more than £100 per year (on anything).

In 2017, this is worth approximately:
£72,982.64

In 1270 [1270 was the furthest back the calculator would go] you could buy one of the following with £100:
 Horses: 131
 Cows: 285
 Wool: 769 stones
 Wheat: 625 quarters
 Wages: 10000 days (skilled tradesman)

https://www.nationalarchi...onverter/#currency-result

Fur was used as currency back then, not surprising a king would want to keep control over it. Ignore his decree at your peril. Banana split
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« Reply #97 on: August 25, 2020, 05:12:13 AM »

In 1137 King Edward III decreed that literally no one, including the royal family and men of the church, could wear fur.
Why not? Winter was cold then also, and fur was the warmest thing around. Did loads of people freeze to death, or was he just ignored?

A Kingís decree is not ignored.  The Act was passed to preclude commoners from wearing fur, which was reserved for specific ranks of aristocracy and/or anyone who spent more than £100 per year (on anything).
Kings decrees were often ignored, especially ones not strictly enforced. Just as many laws are ignored now. Humanity does not change it's essence. And if I shot a rabbit and was freezing, I would definitely wear its fur inside my clothing and hope no one found out.

 Also if it was meant to stop commoners from wearing fur then why forbid it to royalty and the church as well?
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« Reply #98 on: August 25, 2020, 06:05:22 PM »

Of course people ignored Kingsí decrees.  Thatís why the wildly inventive ways to creatively enforce those decrees were also codified into law and why executions were held in a nice public place.  They were instructive and educational of what happened when you disobeyed!

https://www.express.co.uk...real-rules-of-the-monarch


https://www.medievalists....executions-view-scaffold/

By the way, thanks as always to CyrilSebastian for all the good stuff!  A million stars....   Star Star Star
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« Reply #99 on: August 26, 2020, 01:55:36 AM »

Curtains, Thank you for the million stars!  Yes Yes Yes
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« Reply #100 on: August 26, 2020, 09:56:11 PM »

A million plus one, CS! Star

(plus: what are your bulb suggestions for next spring? See you in Bloom!)
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« Reply #101 on: August 26, 2020, 10:20:35 PM »

Thank you CyrilSebastian for these amazing bits of royal history.  Banana Star
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« Reply #102 on: August 27, 2020, 01:44:15 AM »

A million plus one, CS! Star

(plus: what are your bulb suggestions for next spring? See you in Bloom!)
     
Pomme, It will take me some time to compose suggestions.
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« Reply #103 on: August 27, 2020, 01:46:10 AM »

Thank you CyrilSebastian for these amazing bits of royal history.  Banana Star
   
TLLK, I am glad that you like the royal history declarations.  Smiley
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« Reply #104 on: August 28, 2020, 06:30:36 PM »

Edward III reigned from 1327-1377, so Iím not sure how he banned fur in 1137.


In 1337, an Act of Parliament was passed that LIMITED who could wear fur, but it didnít outright ban everyone from wearing it.
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