2020 Mary - NEWS & EVENTS

[Miss Marple]

  Stefanie. There were times Mary looked cold, arrogant and pushy. But you have to say that is not -to the extend it was- the case any more.

[PeDe]

August 22
Attending Copenhagen Pride: Mary's strong message: Here you can be who you are!
t has been going on tonight, when the Copenhagen Pride party featured a big show with Crown Princess Mary in one of the main roles.

Copenhagen Pride paid tribute to the LGBT + community with a bang of a party tonight.

Last year, 35,000 people took part in a huge parade, but this was not the case this year due to the corona crisis, which has led to the cancellation of the traditional parade. Instead, Pride Week was marked with lots of small events and a TV show tonight.

Crown Princess Mary was the highlight of the Pride party and the TV show, as she was the keynote speaker at the special event. The Crown Princess is the patron of Copenhagen 2021, which takes place on 12-22. August in 2021 in Copenhagen and Malmö.

- "Here you can be who you are", Crown Princess Mary said in her speech, among other things, and she also said more than once that we must stand together and focus on human rights.


VIDEO HERE

[Miss Marple]

Good that she is there supporting the cause. Even better if Frodo, the future king had given that speech. But at least he is working tonight.

[Tsarina]

Some years ago, my career took quite an unexpected turn and I have met Mary (and other Royals) a couple of times since then.
If you go through my posts, you will find that I have never been a Mary-fan, quite au contraire.
Meeting her has certainly changed my opinion. On one hand, she looked way better IRL than in pictures. I have seen pictures of her from days when I met her and couldn’t figure out where the face in the photo (especially the Chipmunks-cheeks) came from. Must really be extreme Photoshop or very unfortunate make-up.
On the other hand, she was much nicer than I thought, in fact I really grew to like her (I had the opposite experience with other Royals...). Very down to earth, even a bit insecure, I guess that‘s why on some occasions she masks that with her notorious „snobbism“.

You could very well be correct about her insecurity and coming off as snobby instead.  In fact, the more I think about it, I can totally see that being true in her case.

I’m a relatively insecure and shy person. I’ve been told several times that I come off as snobby and cold. I’m really not, but that’s how I come off. A serious case of RBF as well. No matter how much time passes or how much I try, it has yet to change and I doubt it will. So I can see that being the case for Mary as well.

[karma chamelion]

Some years ago, my career took quite an unexpected turn and I have met Mary (and other Royals) a couple of times since then.
If you go through my posts, you will find that I have never been a Mary-fan, quite au contraire.
Meeting her has certainly changed my opinion. On one hand, she looked way better IRL than in pictures. I have seen pictures of her from days when I met her and couldn’t figure out where the face in the photo (especially the Chipmunks-cheeks) came from. Must really be extreme Photoshop or very unfortunate make-up.
On the other hand, she was much nicer than I thought, in fact I really grew to like her (I had the opposite experience with other Royals...). Very down to earth, even a bit insecure, I guess that‘s why on some occasions she masks that with her notorious „snobbism“.

Great insight, Stefanie - my quibble with that is..how long is she in her role now? If you/one is insecure for the first years that's understandable. You have to find your footing and your way around, but after beeing married for what..19 years now, you better find your place in your postition, figure it out. Other things, that don't jive with me are her early and later lies and her deceptions....to me, she is the wrong person in the wrong job.

It seems to me her ever present posing and need for the camera to be on her doesn't jive, either. Nor does her pushing herself in front of her husband, sometimes aggressively. JMO

[Elissa]

An insecure person would not try to stay in the camera angle for as long as she could.
Especially when it's her eldest child first day at school.
https://youtu.be/COxViOxDAo4

Or deliberately isolating herself from a group to be noticed.


Or push her husband to be in the camera angle.


Or  French kissing her husband for his birthday just when the speech celebrating HIM is over.

[Queen’s Tea]

Actually, an insecure person might do exactly those sorts of things.  Especially if her insecurity is long standing and entrenched.  She’s trying to make herself come across as more secure and confident than she really feels.  Hard to say for sure, of course, but I’m leaning that way in her case. 

[Hester]

Some years ago, my career took quite an unexpected turn and I have met Mary (and other Royals) a couple of times since then.
If you go through my posts, you will find that I have never been a Mary-fan, quite au contraire.
Meeting her has certainly changed my opinion. On one hand, she looked way better IRL than in pictures. I have seen pictures of her from days when I met her and couldn’t figure out where the face in the photo (especially the Chipmunks-cheeks) came from. Must really be extreme Photoshop or very unfortunate make-up.
On the other hand, she was much nicer than I thought, in fact I really grew to like her (I had the opposite experience with other Royals...). Very down to earth, even a bit insecure, I guess that‘s why on some occasions she masks that with her notorious „snobbism“.

I’ve seen her quite close up twice and she was being bumptious and egotistical. And you couldn’t have told what she looks like - she was pasted in thick greasepaint for the camera. She is not naturally skinny and clearly dieted down to an unnatural skin-and-bone thinness. She was like an apparition!

[Tsarina]

Actually, an insecure person might do exactly those sorts of things.  Especially if her insecurity is long standing and entrenched.  She’s trying to make herself come across as more secure and confident than she really feels.  Hard to say for sure, of course, but I’m leaning that way in her case.  

I literally do all of those things and sometimes they come off odd/snobby (usually because I’m trying to get away from/share the spotlight). Once when I was younger and much more insecure, I refused to be in a group picture with a retiring coworker because I had only worked with her occasionally and only for a year or so. It came off snobby and rude but it was really just my feeling of not being worthy enough.

It really makes me extend the benefit of the doubt to Mary when she comes off odd/snobby/attention-seeking.

[Queen’s Tea]

Actually, an insecure person might do exactly those sorts of things.  Especially if her insecurity is long standing and entrenched.  She’s trying to make herself come across as more secure and confident than she really feels.  Hard to say for sure, of course, but I’m leaning that way in her case.  

I literally do all of those things and sometimes they come off odd/snobby (usually because I’m trying to get away from/share the spotlight). Once when I was younger and much more insecure, I refused to be in a group picture with a retiring coworker because I had only worked with her occasionally and only for a year or so. It came off snobby and rude but it was really just my feeling of not being worthy enough.

It really makes me extend the benefit of the doubt to Mary when she comes off odd/snobby/attention-seeking.

You described that better than I did.  I’ve behaved similarly in the past, and can identify with some of her actions.  I could be completely off the mark, but I’m also willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. 

[Paulina]

An insecure person would not try to stay in the camera angle for as long as she could.
Especially when it's her eldest child first day at school.
https://youtu.be/COxViOxDAo4

Or deliberately isolating herself from a group to be noticed.


Or push her husband to be in the camera angle.


Or  French kissing her husband for his birthday just when the speech celebrating HIM is over.

I will never get over that last one. So inappropriate! Maxima's expression, not seen in this gif, is priceless, as is Fred's. What a power play possessive insecure move and so publicly at a formal event!

[dKaren]

Actually, an insecure person might do exactly those sorts of things.  Especially if her insecurity is long standing and entrenched.  She’s trying to make herself come across as more secure and confident than she really feels.  Hard to say for sure, of course, but I’m leaning that way in her case.  

I literally do all of those things and sometimes they come off odd/snobby (usually because I’m trying to get away from/share the spotlight). Once when I was younger and much more insecure, I refused to be in a group picture with a retiring coworker because I had only worked with her occasionally and only for a year or so. It came off snobby and rude but it was really just my feeling of not being worthy enough.

It really makes me extend the benefit of the doubt to Mary when she comes off odd/snobby/attention-seeking.

It was not only about pictures, she was absolutely attention-seeking, camera whoring during her early royal years.  Most of the new royal consorts were quite low key during the early years after the wedding, she was posing for the vogue, looker-at-me tour in Australia, even spending $$$$ on PR agents self promoting herself in Australia. I guess now she finally realizes she just doesn't have what it takes to be an international star.

[Miss Marple]

Her attention seeking has stopped - at least to the extend it used to happen before.

[Stefanie]

Some years ago, my career took quite an unexpected turn and I have met Mary (and other Royals) a couple of times since then.
If you go through my posts, you will find that I have never been a Mary-fan, quite au contraire.
Meeting her has certainly changed my opinion. On one hand, she looked way better IRL than in pictures. I have seen pictures of her from days when I met her and couldn’t figure out where the face in the photo (especially the Chipmunks-cheeks) came from. Must really be extreme Photoshop or very unfortunate make-up.
On the other hand, she was much nicer than I thought, in fact I really grew to like her (I had the opposite experience with other Royals...). Very down to earth, even a bit insecure, I guess that‘s why on some occasions she masks that with her notorious „snobbism“.

Great insight, Stefanie - my quibble with that is..how long is she in her role now? If you/one is insecure for the first years that's understandable. You have to find your footing and your way around, but after beeing married for what..19 years now, you better find your place in your postition, figure it out. Other things, that don't jive with me are her early and later lies and her deceptions....to me, she is the wrong person in the wrong job.

I believe all the lies and deceptions all come down to her being insecure and as a matter of fact shy. That doesn't make it better, but might explain it. She probably was in it for all the wrong reasons (easy life, designer stuff), but would actually prefer to be a private person (WITH the designer stuff  ). In fact, I sometimes had the impression she would rather be on "my side of the fence" (again, with the designer stuff....).
As for being "the wrong person in the wrong job", I guess it depends on how you define the job. Mary for example is really nice "off the records", she talks to even the most junior member of the team, seems interested and does remember details and makes it very comfortable to be around her. So I can totally see her being liked if not even loved by the people she meets directly. But then she might fail in "bringing this to light" by appearing snobbish and fake.
On the other end of the scale I would put Maxima, whom I had been so looking forward to meeting and was completely disappointed, to say the least. She is amazing "on air" and can plaster on a bright smile in a fraction of a second. As soon as the "lights are off", you're lucky to get a "thank you" from her, mostly she would not even speak to you directly but via someone from her staff (and that was also the case before she became Queen. Her hubby is lovely, though).
Since Max is always considered "a perfect royal", probably that's what's required: being able to deliver perfect pictures, regardless of what's going on behind the scenes. Max might even be nice when dealing with her "professionally", but when you're "just a minion", she's just not.

[Stefanie]

Ditto the Star, Stefanie.

Can you tell us your impressions of other royals you met and how they were or were not as you expected?

Well, at this point Mary does not seem the worst. And in person meetings help with perspective.

Paulina, for my impression on Maxima, you might look into my reply to PeDe 

So Mary and Max definitely made the "biggest impressions", for different reasons, because they kind of "put my world upside down", if you want to put it in dramatic terms.
Most of the other Royals were as expected, the Scandis being an utter pleasure to deal with (apart from CG, but no surprise in that).
Letizia is more a CEO than a royal, with a VERY down-to-earth language (commented by my Spanish colleague...).
Have not met any of the Brits, unfortunately.