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« Reply #2460 on: December 14, 2020, 01:05:56 PM »

...and just like in March, Pomster is smack in the middle of test week. Dammit.  (Well, he's happy, kinda)

At least his secondary school has a well-tested and well-functioning online teaching environment, and it's only for a month or so. We don't know about sports yet, they just moved hockey training from field (frozen = slippery and dangerous) to indoor with ample measures.

Lil'P's primary school already shared the codes for Google classrooms and other teaching tools 2 months ago, so that should work, too. During lockdown in spring, parents could once a week pick up a set of exercises and activities on paper, in regulated time slots, outside.

All of our stores were still allowed open until now, our school, hairdressers and nailsalons, gyms, museums, theatres, hotels and their restaurants. All with restrictions re. amount of people, and other safety measures. Only caf้s and restaurants were closed but open for takeaway. And indivuduals were allowed to shop at the wholesale/suppliers that cater normally for the restaurant business. Many smaller businesses have moved their sales online, and within our tiny country, even perishable stuff like oysters makes it to the buyer in a very short time. (It's only about a 4 hr drive from one end to the other).


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« Reply #2461 on: December 14, 2020, 01:24:17 PM »

...and just like in March, Pomster is smack in the middle of test week. Dammit.  (Well, he's happy, kinda)

Oh s**t!

At the moment I am trying to think about which non-essential things I still need at home. If possible I would have liked to do some odd jobs at home between Christmas and New Year's Eve. I still have stuff left over from the big one I did in May this year (with some help of friends), but I don't know if it is still good and / or sufficient.

Today I am unexpectedly at the office instead of working from home. Started early at 07:45 (keep in mind my 1 way travel/commute is about 1 hour and 15 min.) Fortunately, the manager indicates that we can go into the center for some shopping this afternoon. Don't imagine much of it, I work in a hamlet .... But at least there is a small hardware shop.

In addition, my mother's birthday is in January, exactly in the suggested period. Last week, when her birthday came up, she already said that we had to wait and see how everything went. Now I think she too is going to have a very quiet birthday.
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« Reply #2462 on: December 14, 2020, 02:28:34 PM »

...and just like in March, Pomster is smack in the middle of test week. Dammit.  (Well, he's happy, kinda)


Same with Little Miss Fairy. However she is pissed! She is now old enough to understand, that she will have to take the test after the Long break and will have to go over the topics and subjects again to refresh them - when she had hoped to have them done and finished to enjoy her break...Plus the teachers will have a helluva lot of test to grade in an extremely short amount of time after the break, which will make them less favorable to perhaps consider an unusual approach/method/opinion interesting rather than plain wrong...
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« Reply #2463 on: December 16, 2020, 09:56:29 AM »

https://nos.nl/video/2360...-gelogen-en-bedrogen.html


Wuhan citizens demand explanation from Chinese government: "they lied and cheated."

Remarkable and critical voices from Wuhan, the city where the corona pandemic started a year ago. The government was too late, too slow and too lax in informing its own population about the virus. Some critical citizens are now telling their story.
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« Reply #2464 on: December 16, 2020, 09:12:28 PM »

I'm in Canada and many provinces are dealing with a bad second wave. So far mine (the other NL - Newfoundland and Labrador) has been doing well keeping to mostly travel related cases who have a mandatory 14 day isolation period when they come here. There was one case pop up that was odd - no history of travel in a small (population 1600) town well off the beaten track. They still haven't sourced but guaranteed it was someone who lives here and works elsewhere (common here) who brought it to the town.

We've been told to keep our contacts down for Christmas and not have have/attend parties with big groups of people. Other than that Christmas should be pretty normal here - everything is still open including restaurants and bars. Vaccinations started today.

There's been some criticism of our pretty strict travel restrictions with its 14 day isolation, need approval to enter the province - this applies to other Canadians as well as ppl from other countries. The travel restrictions is what is keeping our numbers low. Our Public Health Officer is calling the shots and she is a rockstar here now. Our Health Minister and new Premier are both doctors and you can tell from their response I think. Our former premier was a pharmacist and did what needed to be done to protect our population.
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« Reply #2465 on: December 20, 2020, 04:31:31 AM »

I see on Twitter they are worried about a new strain in the Netherlands and have stopped air travel between them and the UK for the next two weeks. https://news.sky.com/stor...ng-virus-variant-12168042
Maybe this is old news but it was new to me.

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« Reply #2466 on: December 20, 2020, 08:33:22 AM »

Woke up to this news.

Almost all flights cancelled.
Let's hope it helps.

We just hide in the apple tree. Or in one of our Christmas trees that nobody will get to admire irl now.
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« Reply #2467 on: December 20, 2020, 09:21:01 AM »

Woke up to this news.

Almost all flights cancelled.
Let's hope it helps.

We just hide in the apple tree. Or in one of our Christmas trees that nobody will get to admire irl now.

I just saw a shot of St Pancras train station swarming with people, wonder if they will have to shut down the trains as well.

I'm with you, sheltering in place is the perfect plan right now. Beer
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« Reply #2468 on: December 24, 2020, 01:55:13 PM »

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Second mutant strain of coronavirus has already been found in the North AND London after being brought from South Africa - as infections soar again to new record of 39,237 with 744 more deaths and millions MORE are plunged into Tier 4 from Boxing Day

    Two cases of the South African variant of the virus — called 501.V2 — have been detected so far in the UK
    Second mutated strain to be found in as many weeks and this version is even 'more transmissible' than first
    Matt Hancock said discovery was 'highly concerning' and slapped immediate travel bans on South Africa
    Unrelated cases found in London and the North West suggest the virus is likely all over England already
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Durban - A KZN team who discovered the 501.V2 variant of Covid-19, which experts describe as highly transmissible, say it is the driving force behind the country's second wave and is making young and once healthy people, now severely ill.

The announcement was made by Health Minister Zweli Mkhize, ministerial advisory committee co-chair Professor Salim Abdool Karim and Professor Tulio de Oliveira, the director of the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform (Krisp), on Friday.
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Got questions about the new Covid-19 variant in South Africa? Health department has lots of answers
The new variant of SARS-CoV-2 detected in SA has left scientists working round the clock to unravel its mysteries, the health department said on December 19 2020. The department of health issued a lengthy list of questions and answers on Saturday after announcing that the virus that causes Covid-19 has evolved into a new variant.

The answers show there are several gaps in scientists' knowledge about the new variant, including whether vaccines that have already been rolled out in parts of the world will prevent people being infected by it.

They also address questions about when vaccines will be available in SA. Read the full list of questions and answers below.

Background

What is the new SARS-CoV-2 variant?

This new variant of the virus was discovered through routine genomic surveillance of SARSCoV-2 performed by a network of laboratories around the country (Network for Genomic Surveillance SA, NGS-SA). The new variant has been identified in almost 200 samples collected from over 50 different health facilities in Eastern Cape, Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal. The new variant is different from the others that were circulating in SA because it has multiple mutations (changes) in the spike protein — this is the very important part of the virus that binds to the receptor on the cells inside our body and that is also the main target for many of the antibodies produced during infection or after vaccination. Work is being done to understand what effect these mutations have on the behaviour of the virus and our body’s response to it — particularly whether it makes the virus spread more easily, whether it might lead to more severe Covid-19, and whether the virus can evade our immune response.

What is the geographical distribution of this mutation?

The variant was first identified in Nelson Mandela Bay but has rapidly spread through the rest of the Eastern Cape and to the Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal. Testing in other provinces is being undertaken to understand the extent of geographical spread but it is likely that this variant has spread to other provinces too.
N.B. Eastern Cape, Western Cape, KwaZulu-Natal are coastal provinces: high humidity, high temperatures.

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Is the new variant associated with an increase in the severity of the disease?

At this stage, there is no clear evidence of the new variant being associated with more severe disease or worse outcomes but clinicians are undertaking more studies to establish if this new variant does change the course of the disease.

Is this the same or different to the London variant?

It is definitely not the same variant, but there are similarities as they both share the same change in the spike protein at the 501 position. What it does tell us is that if we do not control the spread of the virus then it is likely to evolve in similar ways in different parts of the world.

The new variant of infection leads is associated with a higher viral load. Does this mean a higher rate of transmission?
We do not know for sure that it is associated with a higher viral load, but some of our findings suggest that might be the case. We need to gather more information to help us understand this. Overall there is some evidence that this new variant might be being transmitted more readily than other variants, though the mechanism of this remains to be fully worked out.

Will this new variant cause the second wave to be different from the first wave?
The role of the variant in the second wave is being examined. The second wave is the same as the first in many respects. The cause of Covid-19 remains the same — SARS-CoV-2. The virus still affects the same cells of the body, and causes people to be ill in the same way. This second wave may be different in some ways — it may be that people who had the virus before it changed can now be infected with SARS-CoV-2 for a second time. It may be that the virus spreads more easily, or causes slightly more severe infection. These are all questions that the clinical doctors and scientists will be asking and watching out for.

Did these changes in the virus happen because of Matric Rage?
No, the changes in the virus were already detected well before Matric Rage. However, it is likely that Matric Rage helped to spread the new variant of the virus.
"Matric Rage" is traditionally an alcohol-fueled break-up party for matriculants/Grade 12s. Alcohol sales at the festivals were banned this year but it didn't seem to matter. There were concerns that the parties would be super-spreader events. After the first super-spreader event in Ballito, KZN, subsequent parties were cancelled.
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Where did this new variant come from?
SARS-CoV-2, like all other viruses, mutates as a natural process. The new variant will have evolved naturally.

How long until there is more information on this mutation?
Several people are working around the clock to learn more about this and to understand the significance of the finding. We will release more information when available. It is also important to make clear this is a global effort and we will be working with scientists around the world to understand the significance of this finding.

Clinical Information
Will the new variant cause different symptoms?
There is no reason to think the types of symptoms you get will be different. Patients will in all likelihood present with the same spectrum of symptoms as before. Whether the overall severity will be different, remains to be seen.

If we become infected do we need to know whether it’s the original virus or the new virus? Does the new virus need different clinical management compared to the original virus?
he clinical management remains exactly the same — that is oxygen therapy when people need it, steroids (like dexamethasone) for people with more severe disease, and blood-thinning medication to prevent blood clots, a common complication of Covid-19. It is important to note that the main therapy that has been proven to reduce mortality is dexamethasone and that targets the overactive immune response to the virus, not the virus itself.

Can you get reinfected with the new variant if you have already had Covid-19 from one of the older variants?
This is not known at present. This will be an area of intense study in the coming weeks and months. However, at present, we strongly encourage those who have previously had Covid-19 to continue to adhere to non-pharmaceutical interventions such as wearing masks in public, social distancing, avoiding large gatherings, and hand hygiene.

Testing
Will the PCR tests be able to detect the new variant?
The current PCR tests employed by SA testing laboratories will detect the mutated SARS-CoV-2 lineage. The mutated lineage from the Eastern Cape province has been detected in over 150 samples using SA’s current repertoire of real-time PCR tests. In addition, each test typically detects at least two or three different gene targets to act as a backup in the case of a mutation arising in one.

Will the antibody test be able to detect it?
Antibody tests detect response to the virus, not the virus itself. It is likely that the antibody test will perform in the same way. Note, antibody tests are not used for diagnosis of patient with suspected Covid-19 infection.

Contact Tracing, Isolation and Quarantine

Is there any change in contact tracing?

No — contact tracing remains the same.

Is there any change in the isolation or quarantine periods with infections for this new variant?
No — isolation and quarantine remain at 10 days. People who have been exposed to the virus should quarantine for 10 days. People who are ill with Covid-19 should remain in isolation for 10 days.

Prevention (Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions)
Do these changes in the virus change the way the virus is spread from person to person?
No, they do not. The virus still has the same proteins and the same way of entering the body and causing illness. The virus will still be spread by droplets and by contact with surfaces where the virus has been.

What do these changes in the virus mean for prevention measures like social distancing, mask wearing and sanitising?
Prevention measures like social distancing, mask wearing, handwashing and sanitising still remain the best ways of preventing infection. There is no change to these messages and to the actions that we need to take. Rather than relaxing our guard, we need to do all we can to prevent transmission.

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Vaccines
Will the new variant have an impact on the effectiveness of vaccines?
We expect the vaccines to work. It is not currently known whether this mutation will impact on the effectiveness of vaccines. More research is needed to see whether this is the case, and in the event that the mutation significantly reduces vaccine efficacy, further vaccine development will be required.

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Travel and Borders
Will this affect international travel requirements??
The amendments to the regulations of the Disaster Management Act that were published on December 3 will remain in effect. This includes needing proof of a negative PCR test within 72 hours of the result to be presented on entry into SA, screening on arrival and adhering to all non-pharmaceutical intervention requirements during travel. These requirements apply to people travelling into SA through any of the ports of entry. The regulations for travel to other countries are determined by those countries and the public should check what these are if they are planning international travel.

Should SA close its international borders??
Given the information we currently have on this virus we do not think it is necessary to be considering closing international borders.

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« Reply #2469 on: December 24, 2020, 02:13:53 PM »

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Inside the COVID-19 mutant: The 'drift' of a virus
The UK has identified a fast-spreading new variant of coronavirus that is 70% more transmissible than existing strains. A similar mutation was also reported from South Africa and countries like Netherlands and Denmark.
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Despite the new COVID-19 mutant triggering fresh global panic with nations re-imposing travel bans, scientists say it is too early to predict the virus is going to cause a 'second wave' or make recently-developed vaccines useless.

The UK has identified a fast-spreading new variant of coronavirus that is 70% more transmissible than existing strains. A similar mutation was also reported from South Africa and countries like Netherlands and Denmark.

The scientists have observed three major mutations of the COVID-19 virus so far:

   -  D614G (Amino acid 614 on spike protein)
   -  VUI 2020-12/01
   -  N501Y

D614G was responsible for the fast spread of the virus in Europe, the US and the rest of the world. The other two (VUI 2020-12/01 and N501Y) are the current ones causing panic in the UK. But, there is also what's called the 'South Africa drift', in which three mutations happened in the genetic make up of the virus.

The two new variants have affected Kent and South East England the most. They saw the disease rate spike from 100 cases per 100,000 population in week 41 to over 400 per 100,000 in week 50 of 2020. Total 1,108 individuals were identified with the novel variant in England until December 13, with the earliest case identified dating back to September 20. The new strain has also been seen in other countries, including Denmark and the Netherlands.
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The South African mutation is 501.V2.
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When a new virus strain arises, three main factors that need to be watched are transmissibility, pathogenicity (ability to cause the disease) and immunogenicity (to provoke the body immune response).
So far scientists have identified 501 different variants of viruses which are more transmissible, but are yet to be prove if they cause the disease.
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Another factor to look at is 'antigenic drift' (minor mutation) and 'antigenic shift' (major mutations). Both new strains (VUI 2020-12/01 and N501Y) are antigenic drift and not antigenic shift.
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However, the small changes associated with 'antigenic drift' can accumulate over time and result in viruses that are genetically different.
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« Reply #2470 on: December 29, 2020, 11:58:08 AM »

Just short before Christmas, I had my 1st Corona test. Fortunately the result was negative, as I had the option of celebrating Christmas at my parents. In the same country, but still about 1 a 1.5 hour travel. We hadn't seen each other since early October (a very short visit for my dad's birthday). My parents aren't digital, so online meetings aren't an option. I was also able to see one of my elder siblings, who visited Christmas eve.  I am trying to maintain the Dutch Corona measurements, which are valid until at least January 19th, but it is hard. My siblings are even more strict about it. But as they live more close to each other, it is more easy for them to visit each other. I am just a single woman, who lives in her own small rented appartement. A lonely live these days  Sad

Currently we, my siblings and I, are discussing who is going to visit our parents when in the new year.... Because if we are all there at the same time, even without the in laws, we are more than the accepted amount of guests.

I had planned to celebrate new years eve with a very small group of friends, But due to Corona and the reaction of some I now have to look for another option / option B. I possibly going to celebrate it on my own. Perhaps with partially doing some work in my appartement. When returning home 2nd Christmas day, I discovered some fungus at a familiar spot in my home (informed the landlord). I wanted to treat it yesterday, but the project grew. Now, on this moment, my appartement is a mess (I had to move a lot of stuff). I have treated the wall and surroundings several times with anti-fungus stuff. And then had to wait, with my heating on high, for the area to dry. So that perhaps I could today paint it with the sufficient paint and related. Fortunately I could pick up (had to pre order) necessary items at a local shop (which is officially closed because of Corona, but has a pick up spot) But this morning, the wall was dry, but to be certain I treated some spots with anti-fungus again. My dad adviced me to wait with painting untill tomorrow.  Probably a 2nd night of sleeping on the couch (my bed is near the whole area and covered with stuff) At the moment I have had it with my appartement. But also with the lacking action of my landlord.



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« Reply #2471 on: January 01, 2021, 12:54:36 AM »

"Tonight, let's raise a glass my friends
To those who didn't make it.
A tragic year has shut its eyes,
And loathe are we to wake it." - (credit to Prefab Sprout)
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« Reply #2472 on: January 01, 2021, 05:19:17 PM »

"Tonight, let's raise a glass my friends
To those who didn't make it.
A tragic year has shut its eyes,
And loathe are we to wake it." - (credit to Prefab Sprout)


Thank you Chandra, and may 2021 bring us less suffering. And to all my fellow dishers, may you all stay safe in 2021,  and thank you Maria and Thomas for all your efforts.
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« Reply #2473 on: January 06, 2021, 03:36:32 PM »

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Google restores TalkRadio's YouTube channel in dramatic U-turn when UK ministers intervened - less than 24 hours after it sparked freedom of speech row by axing station's account 'for airing anti-lockdown views'

Google reinstated TalkRadio's YouTube channel following a government intervention, less than a day after the tech giant's 'censorship' sparked a freedom of speech backlash.

YouTube, which is owned by Google, terminated the radio station's account amid claims the broadcaster 'violated' the website's 'community guidelines' by airing criticism of coronavirus lockdowns.  

MailOnline now understands that the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport 'made inquiries' yesterday about what appeared to be an extraordinary clampdown on dissent by Google.

A source close to Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden said: 'Protecting freedom of speech was a key part of what he announced on the online harms work.' Google declined to comment.  


YouTube said it had 'briefly suspended' TalkRadio's channel, citing 'flagged content that violate our Community Guidelines, including COVID-19 content that explicitly contradict expert consensus from local health authorities or the World Health Organization (WHO)'.

TalkRadio's account is now back online following a free-speech row, with Michael Gove and actor Laurence Fox denouncing 'Big Tech censorship' while civil liberties groups said the 'chilling' move 'would make China proud'.

A spokesperson for Rupert Murdoch's News UK, which owns TalkRadio, told MailOnline last night that it is still demanding a full explanation for Google's decision to axe the station's YouTube channel.  

TalkRadio presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer yesterday denied that the broadcaster had flouted YouTube's community guidelines, tweeting: 'We simply challenge the evidence that lockdowns are a proportionate response to the Covid virus. It's called free speech.'
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« Reply #2474 on: January 06, 2021, 05:36:25 PM »

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Google restores TalkRadio's YouTube channel in dramatic U-turn when UK ministers intervened - less than 24 hours after it sparked freedom of speech row by axing station's account 'for airing anti-lockdown views'

Google reinstated TalkRadio's YouTube channel following a government intervention, less than a day after the tech giant's 'censorship' sparked a freedom of speech backlash.

YouTube, which is owned by Google, terminated the radio station's account amid claims the broadcaster 'violated' the website's 'community guidelines' by airing criticism of coronavirus lockdowns.  

MailOnline now understands that the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport 'made inquiries' yesterday about what appeared to be an extraordinary clampdown on dissent by Google.

A source close to Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden said: 'Protecting freedom of speech was a key part of what he announced on the online harms work.' Google declined to comment.  


YouTube said it had 'briefly suspended' TalkRadio's channel, citing 'flagged content that violate our Community Guidelines, including COVID-19 content that explicitly contradict expert consensus from local health authorities or the World Health Organization (WHO)'.

TalkRadio's account is now back online following a free-speech row, with Michael Gove and actor Laurence Fox denouncing 'Big Tech censorship' while civil liberties groups said the 'chilling' move 'would make China proud'.

A spokesperson for Rupert Murdoch's News UK, which owns TalkRadio, told MailOnline last night that it is still demanding a full explanation for Google's decision to axe the station's YouTube channel.  

TalkRadio presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer yesterday denied that the broadcaster had flouted YouTube's community guidelines, tweeting: 'We simply challenge the evidence that lockdowns are a proportionate response to the Covid virus. It's called free speech.'
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