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« on: April 28, 2020, 02:54:30 AM »

Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian Joseph (1832-1867), the younger brother of Emperor Francis Joseph I of Austria, ruled as Emperor Maximilian I of Mexico from 1864 to 1867 during the Second Mexican Empire.   
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2020, 05:00:07 PM »

Princess Charlotte of Belgium (1840-1927) was the Empress of Mexico from 1864 to 1867 as Empress Carlota.   
Princess Charlotte was the daughter of King Leopold I and Queen Louise of Belgium.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2020, 01:13:12 AM »

Miramare Castle in Trieste was built for Emperor Maximilian and his wife Empress Carlotta.  I'd love to see it someday; it looks so beautiful and apparently there are even references to Mexico throughout it. 

https://www.miramare.beni...rali.it/en/?cn-reloaded=1

I actually became interested in Emperor Maximilian when I saw a meme of how he and Nicolas Cage are doppelgangers!  I'm not overly proud of that.  Secret
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2020, 10:11:07 AM »

Empress Charlotte tried to take an active interest in her imperial duties. She toured the Yucatan and hosted charity events. However, by 1865-1866 she was wilting. She hated Mexico City. She found it overwhelmingly dirty and dangerous. Thumb down Thumb down Thumb down Thumb down
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2020, 01:53:50 AM »

I don't know how many of you listen to podcasts, but Stuff You Missed in History Class did a podast on Charlotte/Carlota in April if anyone is curious to know more about her and Maximilian.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2020, 03:07:32 AM »

While several European powers including Great Britain recognized the monarchy of the Empire of Mexico, the United States considered Benito Juarez as the legal president of Mexico.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2020, 08:13:47 AM »

While several European powers including Great Britain recognized the monarchy of the Empire of Mexico, the United States considered Benito Juarez as the legal president of Mexico.

Of course they didn't. A republic not even 100 years old and in the middle of a war, they didn't need this enemy/threat beside them.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2020, 12:59:07 AM »

Maximilian was first proposed to become Emperor of Mexico by local nobleman Jose Pablo Martinez del Rio led Mexican monarchists in 1859.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 01:38:10 AM »

Visit of the Pope to the Empress Carlotta in Rome   
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2020, 01:02:49 AM »

The Mexican Empire or Second Mexican Empire was the name of Mexico under a constitutional hereditary monarchy declared by a Mexican Assembly of Notables in accordance with the interests of the French Empire.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2021, 12:56:07 AM »

http://www.reformation.or...ximilian-and-carlota.html declares:   
           Carlota was the dominant personality in the marriage and had to persuade her husband to take the throne of Mexico.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2021, 02:18:16 PM »

http://www.reformation.or...ximilian-and-carlota.html declares:    
           Carlota was the dominant personality in the marriage and had to persuade her husband to take the throne of Mexico.

And she had it somewhat easy because Maximilian as second son had no real standing with his brother. The emperor was horrified by his liberal ideas. Only when FJ urged his brother to renounce his rights to the Austrian throne did he waver a bit, realising the hopelessness of the situation. The point of no return.

The one really warning them was Charlotte's grandmother Maria Amalia.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2021, 11:55:16 PM »

http://www.reformation.or...ximilian-and-carlota.html declares:    
           Carlota was the dominant personality in the marriage and had to persuade her husband to take the throne of Mexico.

And she had it somewhat easy because Maximilian as second son had no real standing with his brother. The emperor was horrified by his liberal ideas. Only when FJ urged his brother to renounce his rights to the Austrian throne did he waver a bit, realising the hopelessness of the situation. The point of no return.

The one really warning them was Charlotte's grandmother Maria Amalia.
   
Maria Amalia was Charlotte's maternal grandmother?
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2021, 10:07:24 AM »

http://www.reformation.or...ximilian-and-carlota.html declares:    
           Carlota was the dominant personality in the marriage and had to persuade her husband to take the throne of Mexico.

And she had it somewhat easy because Maximilian as second son had no real standing with his brother. The emperor was horrified by his liberal ideas. Only when FJ urged his brother to renounce his rights to the Austrian throne did he waver a bit, realising the hopelessness of the situation. The point of no return.

The one really warning them was Charlotte's grandmother Maria Amalia.
   
Maria Amalia was Charlotte's maternal grandmother?

Yes, she had some experience with the Bonapartes and distrusted them. Her mother Maria Carolina of Austria (herself a daughter of Maria Theresia and the one most resembling her in character) was an ardent enemy of Napoleon I. (who apparently labeled her the most generous woman of Europe) and distrusted the French as a whole, since they killed her sister.

With her brother Leopold II. they arranged some marriages between there children, amoung them her daughter Maria Teresa and the future Emperor Franz I/II. To make matters worse, it was her granddaughter Marie Louise (the first from this marriage), who would become Napoleon's second wife.

MA was born in 1782 and had to flee Naples with her parents and siblings from Napoleon. The tumour years didn't end until after Waterloo (which Maria Carolina sadly didn't see. She died in 1814, still being active during the Viennese Congress).

Interesting enough there have been rumours ever since that Maximilian was in reality the son of the Duke of Reichstadt. It's a pretty baseless rumour, coming from the fact that little Napoleon was pretty lonely at the Viennese court, but liked to spend time with the young Archduchess Sophie...


Luckily dying in 1866, Maria Amalia didn't see the disastrous end of the Mexican adventure...unlike Maximilian's poor mother, who also happen to be not very overjoyed by her son's plans.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2021, 10:19:08 AM »

I already knew a bit about this stuff, but you both provided me with so much extra & very interesting material. Thank you very much both!
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