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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2020, 06:40:10 AM »

I don't know where to put this but I LOVE the Queen's mint green outfit with the gorgeous hat she wore at Captain Tom's investiture.

I wonder how people get nominated. Do you think she herself drove that one? The flyover for his birthday and the special just-for-him knighting?

She was smiling. It was lovely to see.

I can't wait to see Bea's dress. I hope she got a grand tiara precisely because she didn't get the grand wedding.



Agree to everything in your post.  Today was a rare day of happy news.  It was a delight to see the investiture ceremony.  And to look forward to hopefully tomorrow/later today for pictures from the wedding. 

As for why his father hasn’t met Bea or didn’t come to the ceremony, I read an article earlier today that said Edo wasn’t in touch with him.  If they are estranged, I guess I can understand his not attending.  Sad though. 
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2020, 09:57:41 AM »

I don't know where to put this but I LOVE the Queen's mint green outfit with the gorgeous hat she wore at Captain Tom's investiture.

I wonder how people get nominated. Do you think she herself drove that one? The flyover for his birthday and the special just-for-him knighting?

She was smiling. It was lovely to see.

I can't wait to see Bea's dress. I hope she got a grand tiara precisely because she didn't get the grand wedding.



Agree to everything in your post.  Today was a rare day of happy news.  It was a delight to see the investiture ceremony.  And to look forward to hopefully tomorrow/later today for pictures from the wedding. 

As for why his father hasn’t met Bea or didn’t come to the ceremony, I read an article earlier today that said Edo wasn’t in touch with him.  If they are estranged, I guess I can understand his not attending.  Sad though. 

This is a DM article from March 3 which has an interview with Edo's father Alessandro Mapelli Mozzi:

https://www.dailymail.co....ng-family-posher-own.html

He does mention having seen Edo briefly last fall just before the announcement of the engagement.

FWIW, It's obvious Edo and his father do not have a very close relationship. I think his father would have been included in the larger May 29th wedding if it had been able to happen, but not this one.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2020, 11:27:02 AM »

I also think that due to the Covid-19 rules on meeting and socialising with people from outside your household "bubble" (rules which are confusing imo!) the guest list will have been been really pared down so that there can be no criticism.... And it had to be Windsor to have her grandparents safely there... so parents and siblings, no other royals, no other Mozzis.... no other Fergusons for that matter (Fergie has a large extended family)...looking forward to the pics...
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2020, 01:14:44 PM »

I think it killed a few birds:

(1) Most likely Bea did not want to wait forever to tie the knot (they might want to have a family).
(2) He obviously has problems with his dad, so by having it low-key the press does not get a huge story out of it
(3) Her grandparents could be there and Fergie and Phil could be in one room without being watched
(4) As Andrew is not popular, he could be there without causing further headlines
(5) At present, the tax payer would not be pleased if they even thought tax money would be wasted and it would be a wrong sign to have a
     lavish wedding, even if it was privately paid
(6) They did not attract a crowd of curious spectators, so there won't be headlines like "how I caught COVID while standing at the side of the
     road ..."
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2020, 01:22:29 PM »

I think it killed a few birds:

(1) Most likely Bea did not want to wait forever to tie the knot (they might want to have a family).
(2) He obviously has problems with his dad, so by having it low-key the press does not get a huge story out of it
(3) Her grandparents could be there and Fergie and Phil could be in one room without being watched
(4) As Andrew is not popular, he could be there without causing further headlines
(5) At present, the tax payer would not be pleased if they even thought tax money would be wasted and it would be a wrong sign to have a
     lavish wedding, even if it was privately paid
(6) They did not attract a crowd of curious spectators, so there won't be headlines like "how I caught COVID while standing at the side of the
     road ..."


All good reasons.  I thought, as of Eugenie’s wedding, that the issue between Fergie and Phil has largely been put to rest.  They were fine during the ceremony and looked quite relaxed in the photos afterwards.  I really don’t think there’s much to read into their relationship (or lack thereof) at this point. 

But yes, all the reasons are good ones.  I wonder if this low key wedding is well received by the taxpayers if this will start a trend for future royal weddings.  It seems wise to me.  I would just miss all the dishing. 
I sincerely hope we get a bunch of pictures from yesterday and not just one artistic black and white lol.
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2020, 02:44:31 PM »

I think it killed a few birds:

(1) Most likely Bea did not want to wait forever to tie the knot (they might want to have a family).
(2) He obviously has problems with his dad, so by having it low-key the press does not get a huge story out of it
(3) Her grandparents could be there and Fergie and Phil could be in one room without being watched
(4) As Andrew is not popular, he could be there without causing further headlines
(5) At present, the tax payer would not be pleased if they even thought tax money would be wasted and it would be a wrong sign to have a
     lavish wedding, even if it was privately paid
(6) They did not attract a crowd of curious spectators, so there won't be headlines like "how I caught COVID while standing at the side of the
     road ..."


All good reasons.  I thought, as of Eugenie’s wedding, that the issue between Fergie and Phil has largely been put to rest.  They were fine during the ceremony and looked quite relaxed in the photos afterwards.  I really don’t think there’s much to read into their relationship (or lack thereof) at this point. 

But yes, all the reasons are good ones.  I wonder if this low key wedding is well received by the taxpayers if this will start a trend for future royal weddings.  It seems wise to me.  I would just miss all the dishing. 
I sincerely hope we get a bunch of pictures from yesterday and not just one artistic black and white lol.


 Star To QT and Miss Marple. You both make excellent points, and yes, I hope this does start a new trend for future royal weddings.
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2020, 03:37:47 PM »

I think it killed a few birds:

(1) Most likely Bea did not want to wait forever to tie the knot (they might want to have a family).
(2) He obviously has problems with his dad, so by having it low-key the press does not get a huge story out of it
(3) Her grandparents could be there and Fergie and Phil could be in one room without being watched
(4) As Andrew is not popular, he could be there without causing further headlines
(5) At present, the tax payer would not be pleased if they even thought tax money would be wasted and it would be a wrong sign to have a
     lavish wedding, even if it was privately paid
(6) They did not attract a crowd of curious spectators, so there won't be headlines like "how I caught COVID while standing at the side of the
     road ..."
Great list Miss Marple.
About (2): to prevent a what-a-boutism play for sympathy about married-ins with poor relationships with their fathers, perhaps a more accurate characterization of Edo's relationship with his bio-dad may be  that they are not close  rather than that their relationship is bad.  Edo was 5 yrs old when his mum married  Christopher Shale, who Edo has described as the only dad he ever knew. His Bio-dad went on two have two more marriages before  his mum married Shale. Bio-dad moved to France.

The relationship with his step-dad must have been a wonderful one:
1. "Wolfie" is a Christopher and is named after Edo's step-dad.
2. Edo and his brother from the Chris-Nikki union started a cricket foundation in Rwanda in honour of their dad. They have roped in world-class cricketers into the associated coaching programme, The foundation has built at least one stadium (that I can find reference to). No preaching and word-salads just great deeds born out of love.  Clapping Clapping Clapping
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2020, 03:58:29 PM »

At least Edo’s relationship (or lack there of) with his dad is consistent and backed up by easy research.  Sometimes kids just aren’t close to on parent...especially when their parents divorce and remarry while the child is young. 

To be honest I really do side eye his father giving interviews trying to get his five minutes of fame.   Doesn’t matter what sort of relationship you have it’s still tacky AF. 
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2020, 04:09:08 PM »

I think it killed a few birds:

(1) Most likely Bea did not want to wait forever to tie the knot (they might want to have a family).
(2) He obviously has problems with his dad, so by having it low-key the press does not get a huge story out of it
(3) Her grandparents could be there and Fergie and Phil could be in one room without being watched
(4) As Andrew is not popular, he could be there without causing further headlines
(5) At present, the tax payer would not be pleased if they even thought tax money would be wasted and it would be a wrong sign to have a
     lavish wedding, even if it was privately paid
(6) They did not attract a crowd of curious spectators, so there won't be headlines like "how I caught COVID while standing at the side of the
     road ..."
Great list Miss Marple.
About (2): to prevent a what-a-boutism play for sympathy about married-ins with poor relationships with their fathers, perhaps a more accurate characterization of Edo's relationship with his bio-dad may be  that they are not close  rather than that their relationship is bad.  Edo was 5 yrs old when his mum married  Christopher Shale, who Edo has described as the only dad he ever knew. His Bio-dad went on two have two more marriages before  his mum married Shale. Bio-dad moved to France.

The relationship with his step-dad must have been a wonderful one:
1. "Wolfie" is a Christopher and is named after Edo's step-dad.
2. Edo and his brother from the Chris-Nikki union started a cricket foundation in Rwanda in honour of their dad. They have roped in world-class cricketers into the associated coaching programme, The foundation has built at least one stadium (that I can find reference to). No preaching and word-salads just great deeds born out of love.  Clapping Clapping Clapping


This is awesome!  He was - initially anyway - perceived to be a grifter trying to marry up.  But it seems he has his own considerable achievements that should be celebrated.  I hope Bea can learn from what he has done.
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2020, 04:14:48 PM »

Sounds like his dad was never really in his life in a consistent way. Edo cannot be blamed for that. He dealt well with the cards life handed him and in place of an absent father he had good relationships with his step fathers so that speaks to the likelihood of him being more grounded than most people who have an absent father. To say they aren't close is to insinuate each is to blame for a bad relationship that doesn't seem to be the case at all. And he has done good charitable work so that is good too. More and more Edo sounds like a great match for Bea.
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2020, 04:33:47 PM »

I think it killed a few birds:

(1) Most likely Bea did not want to wait forever to tie the knot (they might want to have a family).
(2) He obviously has problems with his dad, so by having it low-key the press does not get a huge story out of it
(3) Her grandparents could be there and Fergie and Phil could be in one room without being watched
(4) As Andrew is not popular, he could be there without causing further headlines
(5) At present, the tax payer would not be pleased if they even thought tax money would be wasted and it would be a wrong sign to have a
     lavish wedding, even if it was privately paid
(6) They did not attract a crowd of curious spectators, so there won't be headlines like "how I caught COVID while standing at the side of the
     road ..."
Great list Miss Marple.
About (2): to prevent a what-a-boutism play for sympathy about married-ins with poor relationships with their fathers, perhaps a more accurate characterization of Edo's relationship with his bio-dad may be  that they are not close  rather than that their relationship is bad.  Edo was 5 yrs old when his mum married  Christopher Shale, who Edo has described as the only dad he ever knew. His Bio-dad went on two have two more marriages before  his mum married Shale. Bio-dad moved to France.

The relationship with his step-dad must have been a wonderful one:
1. "Wolfie" is a Christopher and is named after Edo's step-dad.
2. Edo and his brother from the Chris-Nikki union started a cricket foundation in Rwanda in honour of their dad. They have roped in world-class cricketers into the associated coaching programme, The foundation has built at least one stadium (that I can find reference to). No preaching and word-salads just great deeds born out of love.  Clapping Clapping Clapping


This is awesome!  He was - initially anyway - perceived to be a grifter trying to marry up.  But it seems he has his own considerable achievements that should be celebrated.  I hope Bea can learn from what he has done.

When you think about it, both York sisters married far better men than we thought they would.
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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2020, 04:53:32 PM »

Okay, thanks. But the dad gave an interview, didn't he? I recall MM's father giving interviews or Pa Slurpson ... maybe they don't want to give him a stage - even if it is only pre-caution.

I am happy that both girls turned out sound (way better than could be expected with these parents) and hopefully happy. I hope they follow Peter and Zara as role models for not-first-stage-royal-life.
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2020, 04:59:43 PM »

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I wonder if this low key wedding is well received by the taxpayers if this will start a trend for future royal weddings.

Even Bea and Edo's original wedding/reception plans were much lower key than her sister and cousins, apart from Will, of course.

Louise and James probably won't marry for 10 to 15 years. Unless they distinguish themselves in some way, they'll have nice low key Windsor weddings attended by their uncle the King, their cousin the PoW and all the family. They'll be coverage, but not hype. By that time George, Charlotte and Louis will be into their teen years the press will start to focus more on them. But the idea of using the Royal Chapel for a more private ceremony has been shown.

If you think about it, we'll not see a major BRF wedding until George gets married.
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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2020, 05:02:51 PM »

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If you think about it, we'll not see a major BRF wedding until George gets married.

And we will see what the zeitgeist (spirit of the time) brings then ... The next royal weddings will be Denmark, Spain, Belgium ... but not for some time.
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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2020, 05:03:52 PM »


If you think about it, we'll not see a major BRF wedding until George gets married.

I agree and maybe add Charlotte and Louis to the list because they will likely be children of the king by the time they marry. I think these "lower royals" know they can't ask for Westminster or St. Paul's because that is not reflective of their place. But so far the children and grandchildren of a reigning monarch have used St. George's which is grand for you and me but kind of makes sense if your granny is the queen and permission is easily given. When Charles enforces who is in and out of the core royal family we'll see lots of smaller venues and the big stuff left to those straight in line or children of the monarch. Where are those pictures by the way lol
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