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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2020, 06:15:33 PM »

I fully agree that LGBT's rights are not a political issue, but simply human rights. Mary is doing not only the right thing, but also her job of representing ALL Danes. Way to go! Champagne
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2020, 10:48:27 PM »

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The Crown Princess is modernizing the royal house and sending the monuments of Margrethe into retirement.

From arts, crafts and archeology to climate change, psychiatry and gay rights. When Mary and Frederik take the throne after the Queen, the Danes must get used to a real change of course in the royal household.

Margrethe's passions like archeology and art are put aside.

Instead, the new modern royal household will be much more progressive - marked by ideological projects.

Right now, it's actually the Crown Princess and the Crown Prince who rule the royal household, while Queen Margrethe slowly slips into the background. The queen's passions have always been in the art world, such as ballet and tailoring. There will therefore be a change in dimension when the heir couple will take over and modernize the royal house.

The basic position of the royal household in society has always been center-right. There are indications that the Crown Prince and Crown Princess will change to the center-left. An image emerges from a move. There is a risk of political intensification.

And if one perceives the role of the royal house as those that bind society across political and ideological boundaries, then that's a problem with that, says historian and royal house expert Sebastian Olden-Jørgensen .

It specifically highlights Mary's rainbow engagement as new and controversial. It was totally unthinkable that Margrethe had taken this path in the 1970s

- "It's more political. It flirts with modern identity politics. The Royal Household has been reluctant on politics for many, many years. We cannot say that they stayed completely away from it, but there was a certain restraint."

- "Mary is political here and has gone one step further than the rest. It's interesting if that line continues when she becomes queen. There is a risk associated with this", he assesses.

- "The climate debate can also turn into a wasp's nest. And here Mary differs in the measure from Margrethe, who was criticized in April for casting doubt that climate change is man-made."
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2020, 11:30:49 PM »

Where is that from, PeDe?  I ask because of that Marge riding off slowly into the sunset line.....
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2020, 12:25:55 AM »

Where is that from, PeDe?  I ask because of that Marge riding odd slowly into the sunset line.....

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here is the whole article

Getting ready for a change of throne: Mary changes everything

The Crown Princess is in the process of modernizing the royal house - and sending Margrethe's landmarks to retirement.
From arts, crafts and archeology to climate change, psychiatry and gay rights.

When Mary and Frederik take over the throne after the queen, the Danes must get used to a true change of course in the royal house.

Margrethe's passions as archeology and art are set aside when Mary becomes queen and Frederik becomes king.

Instead, the new, modern royal house will be far more progressive - marked by ideological projects that are Mary's heart blood.

Right now, it is actually the Crown Princess and the Crown Prince who rule the royal house, while Queen Margrethe is slowly slipping into the background.

This is not least seen in the royal calendar, where the Crown Prince and Crown Princess have a completely free path to cultivate their new heart affairs.

In recent weeks, Mary has spent working time at the Psychiatric Foundation, gay rights and the climate.

The other day, Mary thus attended a concert for SIND, spoke to Copenhagen Pride and participated in the launch of a new climate partnership between the WWF World Wide Fund for Nature and VELUX.


The cases are in sharp contrast to Margrethe's heart cases. The Queen's passions have always been in the world of art, such as ballet and needlework. There will thus be a change of course of dimensions when Mary takes over and makes the royal house more modern.

- It is only natural that it will affect it even more. That's Mary's profile. The royal house's basic position in society has traditionally been center-right.

There are indications that the Crown Prince and Crown Princess will change to the center-left. A picture emerges of a relocation. There is a risk of stepping up politically.

And if one perceives the royal house's role as those that bind society together across political and ideological boundaries, then that is a problem with that, says historian and royal house expert Sebastian Olden-Jørgensen.

He specifically points to Mary's rainbow engagement as new and controversial. It was completely unthinkable that Margrethe would have gone that route in the 1970s.

- It's more political. She flirts with modern identity politics. The Royal House has been reluctant when it comes to politics for many, many years. One cannot say that they have stayed completely out of it, but there has been some restraint.

Mary is political here and she has taken a step further than the others. It's interesting if that line is continued when she becomes queen. There is a risk associated with it, he assesses.

The climate debate can also become a wasp nest.

And here Mary differs to that extent from Margrethe, who in April was criticized for casting doubt on whether climate change is man-made

- The climate agenda is risky. We can all agree that we must save the climate. But then come the next questions. What should we do, how much should we do, and how quickly should we do something.

Then it's a matter of money and priorities. And it is also political, says Olden-Jørgensen.


There is a very long way from these landmarks to Queen Margrethe, not least because of the birth of the welfare state at the beginning of her time as regent.

- Mary's protection profile is more social. But it's a return to something older.

From the end of the 19th century and well into the 20th century, it was very common for members of the royal family to have such patronage.

But why does our own queen not have it then? This is because at the time she became queen, it was the birth of the welfare state. Roughly speaking, the welfare state took care of all that.

Hat ladies and other well-meaning people should stay away from this. And the queen has kept the slogan, he explains.
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2020, 12:29:47 AM »

Where is that from, PeDe?  I ask because of that Marge riding odd slowly into the sunset line.....


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The exact headline is: Getting ready for a change of throne: Mary changes everything

Thanks PeDe!  Hug
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2020, 12:45:01 AM »

I do think that Mary doesn't have the chops to follow Marge in many ways but in the most important way it doesn't matter since Marge is the reigning queen and Mary is a consort and constitutionally doesn't seem to matter. She is a decoration. That fits her personality. She will need to be a bit careful navigating the social justice warrior agenda because while royals need to support all members of society it's trickier dealing with other issues that civil society debates and discusses. You can be with the angels like how Mary supports Danes who are trans but not be too much of a rabble rouser for causes that reasonable people can disagree on it's tricky.
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2020, 01:58:59 AM »

I hope somebody will continue to be a patron/supporter of arts, crafts and archeology, and other elements of the cultural life of the nation.
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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2020, 04:40:30 AM »

I hope somebody will continue to be a patron/supporter of arts, crafts and archeology, and other elements of the cultural life of the nation.

I imagine that Isabellla may carry on that mantle? She seems interested in culture and the arts? Plus it would be a nice role for the sibling of an eventual king to get stuck into.
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2020, 05:04:28 AM »

“And if one perceives the royal house's role as those that bind society together across political and ideological boundaries, then that is a problem with that, says historian and royal house expert Sebastian Olden-Jørgensen.“

I’m failing to see the problem with binding society together across ideological and political boundaries. Isn’t that the goal?
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2020, 08:29:57 AM »

“And if one perceives the royal house's role as those that bind society together across political and ideological boundaries, then that is a problem with that, says historian and royal house expert Sebastian Olden-Jørgensen.“

I’m failing to see the problem with binding society together across ideological and political boundaries. Isn’t that the goal?
I agree with you, Paulina.
Plus, yes, arch and arts need patrons and support etc, (and here I agree with SvenskaSarah about Izzy and how suitable this is for the monarch's siblings) but each person has their own interests so it's natural to see a difference from Marge to Fred, different people, different focus.
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