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« Reply #180 on: October 15, 2021, 10:12:10 PM »

While I've agreed in the past that Steph needs to do more I really do thing the whole MT issue has a lot to do with it. Remember an official government report said, basically, MT had overstepped the mark and got too involved with the running of the Cour and Monarchy. Even if MT is not as bitter as we often think (doubt it but just say), it wold certainly be diplomatic and pretty safe of Stephanie to stay out the limelight a bit. Either for fear of upsetting MT, or upsetting the government or a bit of both.

Taking the "diplomatic hat" off, its clear to me, IMO, MT is having a great sulk at her wings being clipped and seems quite vindictive about it. While we would love Stephanie to show her how it's done really what daughter in law is going to do that. It is clear MT has Henri wrapped around her little finger, I don't know if its the same with Gui or not but either way I can't blame Stephanie for keeping her head down, especially with a baby to look after.
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« Reply #181 on: October 15, 2021, 11:07:51 PM »

Stephanie, accompanied by representatives from MUDAM, visited the workshop of artist Tina Gillen




This side-by-side should be really instructive to Stephanie ... I mean she a couple inches shorter and a little heavier but an outfit like the artist's on Stephanie would be so much more chic.  (She would even probably look slimmer.)

Why would she need to look slimmer? Sheís her natural weight.
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« Reply #182 on: October 16, 2021, 01:36:53 AM »

Interesting thought about it perhaps being due to MT's meddling ways.  The dysfunction of some of these Royal Houses is just staggering, isn't it?  Here's hoping that whatever the reason is, Stephanie is happy and healthy and will (soon, hopefully, but eventually) be able to branch out, whether it's her insecurities or MT's insecurities holding her back.
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« Reply #183 on: October 16, 2021, 03:57:59 AM »

It may be a little o/t for this thread, but may someone remind me of Claire's and Tessy's "specialist area" while serving as a Princess of Lux? It'll be interesting to compare, especially if they were all shoehorned into a certain area of interests and engagements a la Steph. Of course, Steph is the heir consort so you'd expect a different engagement outlook, but where MT is involved, nothing surprises me.
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« Reply #184 on: October 16, 2021, 04:04:57 AM »

While I've agreed in the past that Steph needs to do more I really do thing the whole MT issue has a lot to do with it. Remember an official government report said, basically, MT had overstepped the mark and got too involved with the running of the Cour and Monarchy. Even if MT is not as bitter as we often think (doubt it but just say), it wold certainly be diplomatic and pretty safe of Stephanie to stay out the limelight a bit. Either for fear of upsetting MT, or upsetting the government or a bit of both.

Taking the "diplomatic hat" off, its clear to me, IMO, MT is having a great sulk at her wings being clipped and seems quite vindictive about it. While we would love Stephanie to show her how it's done really what daughter in law is going to do that. It is clear MT has Henri wrapped around her little finger, I don't know if its the same with Gui or not but either way I can't blame Stephanie for keeping her head down, especially with a baby to look after.

Itís become super hard for me to pick at Stephanie the way I used to after we had the MT blinders ripped off. God only knows what is going on here.
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« Reply #185 on: October 16, 2021, 08:04:28 AM »

While I've agreed in the past that Steph needs to do more I really do thing the whole MT issue has a lot to do with it. Remember an official government report said, basically, MT had overstepped the mark and got too involved with the running of the Cour and Monarchy. Even if MT is not as bitter as we often think (doubt it but just say), it wold certainly be diplomatic and pretty safe of Stephanie to stay out the limelight a bit. Either for fear of upsetting MT, or upsetting the government or a bit of both.

Taking the "diplomatic hat" off, its clear to me, IMO, MT is having a great sulk at her wings being clipped and seems quite vindictive about it. While we would love Stephanie to show her how it's done really what daughter in law is going to do that. It is clear MT has Henri wrapped around her little finger, I don't know if its the same with Gui or not but either way I can't blame Stephanie for keeping her head down, especially with a baby to look after.

IIRC, the Waringo report and the government didn't criticize MT's humanitarian engagement but her creating an inhuman work climate, usurpating administrative tasks which are none of her business and the court's general lack of transparency, there is no risk whatsoever that this might happen with rather passive Stephanie.

As much as I dislike MT, I don't believe for a second that she cares if her DIL visits an art exposition, a public library, a kindergarten or an animal shelter. IMHO, her massive fault was that she didn't make the slightest effort to guide and to train Stephanie for her new role. It is obvious that Steph is rather clueless, she doesn't even know how to dress professionally. My guess is that MT recognized very soon, that Stephanie was/is rather "weltfremd", living in a cosy little bubble of literature, arts and classical music, combined with a certain lack of energy/dynamism and that suited her very well, this was a future DIL that without lots of help would never threaten to outshine her. Of course MT couldn't care less how Steph's shortcomings would influence the image of the GD house because the only thing MT is interested in is MT.

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« Reply #186 on: October 16, 2021, 08:09:09 AM »

I don't follow the LRF closely enough but for me it does not seem that they even have a PR strategy. Even Monaco does better: they have (had) a few events where you could rely on seeing Stephanie, Caroline and Al together. In Lux you rarely see the family together and you get the impression that is because they are disfunctional to the core.

I can understand Felix and Claire's actions now after Liam was born: It was a sign to the senior royals "we are doing our own thing and do not expect us to come and fill the void (before Charles was born)". I guess they are having a rather toxic climate.

Stephanie took a long time to settle into the role as "crown princess" but we don't know if it was her fault or if she was hopelessly surpressed. Or a combination of both. We might find out later.
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« Reply #187 on: October 16, 2021, 08:17:26 AM »

While I've agreed in the past that Steph needs to do more I really do thing the whole MT issue has a lot to do with it. Remember an official government report said, basically, MT had overstepped the mark and got too involved with the running of the Cour and Monarchy. Even if MT is not as bitter as we often think (doubt it but just say), it wold certainly be diplomatic and pretty safe of Stephanie to stay out the limelight a bit. Either for fear of upsetting MT, or upsetting the government or a bit of both.

Taking the "diplomatic hat" off, its clear to me, IMO, MT is having a great sulk at her wings being clipped and seems quite vindictive about it. While we would love Stephanie to show her how it's done really what daughter in law is going to do that. It is clear MT has Henri wrapped around her little finger, I don't know if its the same with Gui or not but either way I can't blame Stephanie for keeping her head down, especially with a baby to look after.

IIRC, the Waringo report and the government didn't criticize MT's humanitarian engagement but her creating an inhuman work climate, usurpating administrative tasks which are none of her business and the court's general lack of transparency, there is no risk whatsoever that this might happen with rather passive Stephanie.

As much as I dislike MT, I don't believe for a second that she cares if her DIL visits an art exposition, a public library, a kindergarten or an animal shelter. IMHO, her massive fault was that she didn't make the slightest effort to guide and to train Stephanie for her new role. It is obvious that Steph is rather clueless, she doesn't even know how to dress professionally. My guess is that MT recognized very soon, that Stephanie was/is rather "weltfremd", living in a cosy little bubble of literature, arts and classical music, combined with a certain lack of energy/dynamism and that suited her very well, this was a future DIL that without lots of help would never threaten to outshine her. Of course MT couldn't care less how Steph's shortcomings would influence the image of the GD house because the only thing MT is interested in is MT.



I would have hoped that MT would support her husband but clearly not... I mean marriage to the love of her life over so many decades? But the Warringo report comes as no surprise as clearly there was a pattern in play for a long time....

Steph is there for the duration it seems.... Tessy bailed and Claire is staying away as much as possible

I donít think MT will never return to Lux but she wonít be there often... and at least Henri is not running away to France at this point.... gives his son a better chance to manage the transition
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« Reply #188 on: October 16, 2021, 10:07:46 PM »

While I've agreed in the past that Steph needs to do more I really do thing the whole MT issue has a lot to do with it. Remember an official government report said, basically, MT had overstepped the mark and got too involved with the running of the Cour and Monarchy. Even if MT is not as bitter as we often think (doubt it but just say), it wold certainly be diplomatic and pretty safe of Stephanie to stay out the limelight a bit. Either for fear of upsetting MT, or upsetting the government or a bit of both.

Taking the "diplomatic hat" off, its clear to me, IMO, MT is having a great sulk at her wings being clipped and seems quite vindictive about it. While we would love Stephanie to show her how it's done really what daughter in law is going to do that. It is clear MT has Henri wrapped around her little finger, I don't know if its the same with Gui or not but either way I can't blame Stephanie for keeping her head down, especially with a baby to look after.

IIRC, the Waringo report and the government didn't criticize MT's humanitarian engagement but her creating an inhuman work climate, usurpating administrative tasks which are none of her business and the court's general lack of transparency, there is no risk whatsoever that this might happen with rather passive Stephanie.

As much as I dislike MT, I don't believe for a second that she cares if her DIL visits an art exposition, a public library, a kindergarten or an animal shelter. IMHO, her massive fault was that she didn't make the slightest effort to guide and to train Stephanie for her new role. It is obvious that Steph is rather clueless, she doesn't even know how to dress professionally. My guess is that MT recognized very soon, that Stephanie was/is rather "weltfremd", living in a cosy little bubble of literature, arts and classical music, combined with a certain lack of energy/dynamism and that suited her very well, this was a future DIL that without lots of help would never threaten to outshine her. Of course MT couldn't care less how Steph's shortcomings would influence the image of the GD house because the only thing MT is interested in is MT.



I would have hoped that MT would support her husband but clearly not... I mean marriage to the love of her life over so many decades? But the Warringo report comes as no surprise as clearly there was a pattern in play for a long time....

Steph is there for the duration it seems.... Tessy bailed and Claire is staying away as much as possible

I donít think MT will never return to Lux but she wonít be there often... and at least Henri is not running away to France at this point.... gives his son a better chance to manage the transition

Well who said... keep your friends close, but your enemies closer?

MT doesn't need to be in Lux to create a bad athmosphere.

Gui and Steph both look lack a kind of willpower to "overthrow" his parents. I think Steph keeps it with the art exhibitions, because with them she knows everything is fine and MIL won't throw a tantrum. Though not likely of course, but can't be sure about when doing other things.
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« Reply #189 on: October 17, 2021, 09:32:50 PM »

Stephanie, accompanied by representatives from MUDAM, visited the workshop of artist Tina Gillen




This side-by-side should be really instructive to Stephanie ... I mean she a couple inches shorter and a little heavier but an outfit like the artist's on Stephanie would be so much more chic.  (She would even probably look slimmer.)

Why would she need to look slimmer? Sheís her natural weight.

I phrased that wrong; I didn't mean to imply that she needs to be slimmer.  Just that this outfit doesn't flatter her figure, while there are designs or shapes that could.
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« Reply #190 on: October 17, 2021, 11:14:04 PM »

The report didnít criticise MTs work for charities etc (though did point out no one was sure whether official funds were paying for the stand up speak up website) BUT MT is clearly sulking about the whole thing- shes basically left Lux in a huge sulk and hasnít even turned up for pretty key, non governmental events such as visiting the flood damage to the country. I think with that in mind and MTs unhappiness at the report (even though it did not slate the most important IMO aspect of her role she is clearly majorly pissed) plus the fact we know she is clearly rather ďtemperamentalĒ Steph and Gui may just be playing it safe with Steph doing the duties that only go with the key focus she has. I donít think -while MT is still Grand Duchess- Stephs current activities are a sign of the sort of royal Stephanie wants to be in the long run.   Thats just my gut feeling.
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« Reply #191 on: October 17, 2021, 11:26:40 PM »

Is there any tradition/history of abdication in Luxembourg? Or is this how it is until Henri passes?
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« Reply #192 on: October 17, 2021, 11:33:24 PM »

Yes- most recent Grand Dukes/ Grand Duchessí have abdicated. Henriís father abdicated in 2000, his mother had abdicated in the 60s before that.
The last sovereign in Luxembourg to die without abdicated was William IV who died in 1912.
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« Reply #193 on: October 17, 2021, 11:36:20 PM »

Yes- most recent Grand Dukes/ Grand Duchessí have abdicated. Henriís father abdicated in 2000 (maybe 2001 due to Henriís  brother being in a car accident and delaying it but atm I canít remember if it was just months later or into a different year)


Thank you ralf!  I wonder if Henri will continue the tradition, or if MT will ensure that he is the top dog for as long as possible.
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« Reply #194 on: October 17, 2021, 11:40:56 PM »

Added some more detail to original post above. Hopefully Henri abdicates soon! I wonder if the government are quietly putting pressure on him to do so. I read somewhere the current PM is friendly with Gui. Though I can see MT wanting to remain top dog and not wanting to hand it all over to someone else. Only good thing now is there would be perfect reason for MT to then be out country for good of Henri is no longer Grand Duke. They can split their time between Paris, Biarritz and Cabasson (though I suspect that goes to Gui as Grand Duke)
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